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    So good old Tom had just rehashed a true murder tale to enhance his 'ghost' books? Now that is strange?
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    I read about this a few years ago there was nothing to say how the bodys were disposed of or what the outcome was.

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    To be honest, i'm not incredibly bothered about Tom rehashing this tale... it's there in RWE, it's available to anyone with a library card in the LRO and it is a genuine grusome tale.

    However, I am bothered about the bad name he gives to William Makenzie who one one of the most eminent men of his day and is now considered to be little more than a greedy, corrupt, evil and diabolic gambler all thanks to the lies of one hack writer. We should be proud that Mackenzie is buried in Liverpool.

    The wikipedia article gives a good idea about his life and his enromous contribution to the railway networks of Europe.

    Wikipedia article here.

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    Here is the actual inscription on the Pyramid, seems that William, Mary and Sarah are there in a post-mortem m?nage ? trois.



    It Reads:

    In the Vault Beneath
    lie the remains of
    William Mackenzie of Newbie
    Dumfrishire, Esquire
    Who died 29th October 1851
    Aged 57 years
    Also, Mary his wife, who died
    Who died 19th December 1838
    Aged 48 years
    and Sarah, his second wife
    Who died 9th December 1867
    Aged 60 Years
    This monument was erected by his
    Brother Edward
    As a token of love and affection
    A.D. 1868
    The memory of the just is blessed
    Prov. 10. v7


    He is listed as 'of Newbie' because shortly before his death he bought a number of big estates around the country - even though he still considered Liverpool as his base of operation.
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    A little clip for those interested in the Tomb can be found on the Xmas Abba Magic night.
    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/chi...arty-time.html
    It gets better as it goes on but unfortunately you lot have gotta go to the Xmas Abba magic doo to see the whole thing.Sorry. Not allowed to put full version up (yet).
    Its good and am not gonna spoil it for you

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    Is that footage real or just for dramatic purposes? Pretty cool either way.

    If it is real may I ask who undertook it, paid for it and just why they did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    Is that footage real or just for dramatic purposes? Pretty cool either way.

    If it is real may I ask who undertook it, paid for it and just why they did it.
    It sure is real. Real good too.
    All I can tell you for the moment is...You wouldn't believe whats inside!!!
    And Frankie Carlyle and my brother have something to do with it.

    Sorry I can't be of much help but I am sworn to secrecy

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    Thanks Zappa. I understand that it's secret at the moment but please be sure to let us know about it after it has happened.

    To be honest I'm still a bit skeptical about the body inside... but stranger things have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    Thanks Zappa. I understand that it's secret at the moment but please be sure to let us know about it after it has happened.

    To be honest I'm still a bit skeptical about the body inside... but stranger things have happened.
    Your welcome Fortinian
    Stranger things sure have happened. This you won't believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    I've been doing some more work,

    someone asked for a picture of him - i've got one here


    Here is an up close shot of the cartouch above the portal. The motto reads: 'Always Faithful'.

    Thanks for that close-up pic,I always wondered exactly what it was. You can't quite see from the street. Is that his family motto?

    Dave.


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    Is that his family motto?
    I'm no heraldic expert...

    From what I can find out about it is that it contains some things that are typical of the many 'Mackenzie' family arms: such as the Stags Head. Also, you can just make out what looks like fire beneath the crown at the top of the coat of arms. It's actually another typical 'Mackenzie' image, especially on the clan badge. It is meant to be a pile of rocks on-fire and usually (though not in this case) has the motto: "I shine not burn".

    The motto is also a typical 'Mackenzie' motto although it is usually "Daonnan D?leas" (Scottish Gaelic, meaning "Always Faithful").

    Because William Mackenzie was not of a noble family i'm guessing he was granted his arms during his life-time. The human figure is unusual to appear on a coat-of-arms whereas the shells (escallops) are quite common and usually have some sort of nautical link (possibly his work on canals and docks?).

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    Thumbs down Disgusting!!

    I went past this Tomb yesterday and was disgusted by the state of the place.
    What the hell is going on. Why has this been left like this ?
    Surely something should be done about it!!



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    Well what do you think folks ?
    My next question would be "do people of Liverpool really care about Mc's Tomb " ?

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    Obviously not,looking at the state it's in,though I think a compulsory purchase order, was made by the council,recently,after some years of wrangling with the former owner! I remember the church still being in use,in the early 70's,when I lived round the corner.

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