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    Quote Originally Posted by christy View Post
    Dont know if its true but I heard it was going to be the old street at the side of WH Smiths - part of next. Hard to know which it will be. HMV have avery thin entrance and would have little shop left and next have their escalators on the side that would be taken from them. Cant see either wanting to lose floorspace so I wonder if one of them will be ,moving into the new development?
    Yes, I was thinking that HMV might move into the new development. I can't see Next moving, or losing 1/2 of their shop (which is 1 of their biggest branches).

    The official site says "Conversion of an existing pair of shops into a one and two storey arcade and shop units. The intention with this break-through is to create a physical link to Peter's Lane from Church Street. The form of the existing building above ground level is to be respected and the new break-through to be sympathetic to the strong symmetry of the Church Street facade"

    http://www.liverpoolpsda.co.uk/Proje...lans/site8.htm



    and it looks like it's Top Shop or HMV rather than Next on this small image:

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    The image above is definitely HMV (Woolies).

    The cross is about 12 feet from the front of the building.
    But I have to admit that it's been relaid.
    In the same place?
    I do remember that it was some distance away.

    Here's the maps I mentioned earlier.
    The old one was surveyed in 1890, and the other in 1924.
    Note that the block that Woolworths was in hadn't been completed.
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    I can think of very few Churches in Liverpool which have the alter under the Tower - most churches have an entrance at the bottom of the tower with the ringing chamber hidden part way up a tower.

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    [QUOTE=Jona76;32600]
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Besides, weren't altars always under the tower, QUOTE]

    I can think of very few in Liverpool - most churches have an entrance at the bottom of the tower with the ringing chamber hidden part way up a tower.
    Sorry Jona.

    Was it the tower then that was always at the west end?
    I was only going by memory before.
    It's been a long time since I used to be a choirboy.

    Anyway, the point of this discussion was the fact that the cross is not on the site of the altar.

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    My friend worked in HMV up until 10 months ago and he said then that they were moving to the new development

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    [QUOTE=PhilipG;32601]
    Quote Originally Posted by Jona76 View Post

    Sorry Jona.

    Was it the tower then that was always at the west end?
    I was only going by memory before.
    It's been a long time since I used to be a choirboy.

    Anyway, the point of this discussion was the fact that the cross is not on the site of the altar.

    I'll agree with you there Philip about the cross not being on the site of the altar. Does anyone have any concrete (excuse the pun) evidence to this? I've heard it myself from a different source but I believe that this is the 'norm' but not true.

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    Yes, youse are right, defo HMV. Be nice to have a better HMV in the new development because that one now is so awkward if there is a Queue at the front. Its so narrow its a pain getting through. Still a shame they couldn't open church lane up instead as it would be a more attractive street pattern IMO.

    Would love to have seen that open space with the church in the centre and seen the original buildings facing on to the church with the Bluecoat at the rear. What a lovely space that would have been for the shopping area if the churchyard was planted.

    Would love to have walked along Old Post Office place aswell - looks so interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    The image above is definitely HMV (Woolies).

    The cross is about 12 feet from the front of the building.
    Yes, I thought that too. But Burtons is on the end of the block (corner of Church Alley), with Top Shop next door and then HMV. The diagram seems to have the end building (Burtons) and then HMV. Perhaps the new arcade will be through both Top Shop and HMV. It does say 2 existing shops on the official site.


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    The symbol of St Peter, the Cross Keys, appear on the top of the Woolworths/HMV building (covered in anti-pigeon netting)
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    I'm certainly learning plenty on this forum
    I'll look out for that next time I'm in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    The symbol of St Peter, the Cross Keys, appear on the top of the Woolworths/HMV building (covered in anti-pigeon netting)
    Thanks, Marky.
    That's some zoom lens you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floyd View Post
    My friend worked in HMV up until 10 months ago and he said then that they were moving to the new development
    Apparently, HMV is closing down in the next few days and they will start work creating the 'arcade' through to the new development. HMV will have a temporary shop in Bold Street (probably Radiant House, the former Gas showroom) until they open in the new development.

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    Yep, they are knocking a large hole through HMV which will create as u say, an 'arcade', the walkway will take shoppers through to the paradise street development. Wasn't there once a Burger King in HMV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Yep, they are knocking a large hole through HMV which will create as u say, an 'arcade', the walkway will take shoppers through to the paradise street development. Wasn't there once a Burger King in HMV?
    Yes, there was a Burger King upstairs at the front in the 80s. I think upstairs might have been Burger King only, with HMV restricted to downstairs.

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    Pretty sure that Burger king was there on its own upstairs and closed for HMV to take over. HMV was then just upstairs for a while until they took over some of Topshop downstairs and renovated the shop again. Seem to remember HMV having a small shop for a while somewhere else. Did they take over Revolver records in Lord street or am I imagining that?

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