Hi Verdi, the 2 men your on about was my Uncles Frank and Fredrick OConnor they lived in caryl gardens and Frank worked on the appolo, he told us that he carved his initials into the nose so that he was the 1st man on the moon
, wen i told my friends at school ( i was only 9) they took the mick out of me calling me a liar
true gents Freddy lived in yorkshire but he wanted his ashes scattered on the mersey which we did, the ferry stopped for us to do this,we called it Freddy across the mersey, my Uncle Franks getting done next year, they were the cousins of Richard Shields (dickie) who won the golden gloves and ran the carylie boxing club. scousette
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