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    Default Mormon Immigration 1

    I am attempting to post an extract from a Journal about the " Voyage of the Ellen Maria" in 1853. The extract was given to me by the great ,great grandson of the author ,with the express wish that I post it here. I am a rookie at this sort of thing so this will be my first attempt at posting actual documents, any advice will be extremely welcome as I don't know anything about DOS or whatever. I feel sure that you will enjoy it because it covers the little known subject of Mormon Emigration from Liverpool to the United States. Look forward to your help in this endeavour,
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian daley View Post
    I am attempting to post an extract from a Journal about the " Voyage of the Ellen Maria" in 1853. The extract was given to me by the great ,great grandson of the author ,with the express wish that I post it here. I am a rookie at this sort of thing so this will be my first attempt at posting actual documents, any advice will be extremely welcome as I don't know anything about DOS or whatever. I feel sure that you will enjoy it because it covers the little known subject of Mormon Emigration from Liverpool to the United States. Look forward to your help in this endeavour,
    BrianD
    Always thought it was the Mormons that came over here Brian. Can't help you I'm afraid, if I had to post it I woulda gone to the post box.

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    The Mormons in this tale were converted in Lancashire and Liverpool by American missionaries,this story is about the journey of such converts to the "promised land " Utah.
    As you can see this posting has come out as thumbnails,is their an IT expert out there who can put me on the right track,
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian daley View Post
    The Mormons in this tale were converted in Lancashire and Liverpool by American missionaries,this story is about the journey of such converts to the "promised land " Utah,
    BrianD
    I went to Salt Lake City. It's a lovely place. Alas it was dry...

    No alcohol, I never went back...

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    Hi Brian,
    I clicked on your thumb nail. to enlarge as usual, Then I clicked again on the ENLARGED thumb nail and another page opened up with it in, then click on `VIEW`, CLICK ON `ZOOM`, then CLICK on 200% to increase and it is normal size print, EASY TO READ.
    VOILA.!!!

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    Smile We travelled through Utah...

    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    Always thought it was the Mormons that came over here Brian. Can't help you I'm afraid, if I had to post it I woulda gone to the post box.
    ...some 10 years ago, and stopped at many of the smaller museums in the small towns.

    The Mormons recruited lots of English residents at this time, and promised them land and free passage. This was the era before the Western US became part of the USA, and it was a method for them to populate the land and drive the Indians off. Around the 1850's they were the main white population in a large area of the West, called the Mormon Corridor - from wiki -



    This was the time a lot of folks were leaving England/Scotland/Ireland (my American side of the family came from Scotland in 1852 - my side went down into Yorkshire) and the promise of a free passage must have been very enticing.

    Apparently funds got low for the second part of the journey, the cross US trek (no train service then) and a few groups made the trip on foot pulling hand carts - quite an amazing feat.

    Story here -

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_handcart_pioneers



    This is in the period 1856 to 1860 - a time of great emigration out of England via Liverpool and Glasgow - and of the settling of the Western US.

    I am not Mormon, but you have to admire these early pioneers - setting out into spots that not populated and enduring harsh winters with no other families in sight.were there are many fascinating stories told in the smaller museums we visited.
    If you think that the present cold Liverpool weather is bad - try a full winter on the US plains...

    I am interested in this period of history - we know lots of folks moved, but we don't really know why - except for the Irish potato famine - which did not spread to Ayrshire where my family was.

    My thoughts were that it was related to a rural life tuning into an urban life with the mill towns and industry forming - but who really knows...

    It wasn't an easy trip like I did in 1970 - a BEA Viscount from Speke to Heathrow , and a 707 to Detroit, and even then the plane had to refuel in Maine.... We are spoilt for travel now, and loving it....

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    Nice one Az Gila.

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    Well ,here goes,i will publish it in full:-
    The Voyage of the Ellen Maria
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    I clicked on your thumb nail. to enlarge as usual, Then I clicked again on the ENLARGED thumb nail and another page opened up with it in, then click on `VIEW`, CLICK ON `ZOOM`, then CLICK on 200% to increase and it is normal size print, EASY TO READ.


    I can read it OK Brian, just follow what I said before, No problem. very interesting, some tough voyages there crossing the Atlantic, good seafarers. Some people moan about a crossing on Queen Mary 2.

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    Gonna be a while with this Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    I went to Salt Lake City. It's a lovely place. Alas it was dry...

    No alcohol, I never went back...
    I spent about 2 to 3 months there. It isn't dry. Bars are few on the ground though. We found them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I spent about 2 to 3 months there. It isn't dry. Bars are few on the ground though. We found them.
    I was there in the early eighties. I might be wrong, but I don't remember a single bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    I was there in the early eighties. I might be wrong, but I don't remember a single bar.
    Such a shame that WW had a return ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Such a shame that WW had a return ticket.
    I think he made that long march back...


    How'd you like to sit next to him on the flight home...


    He aint so bad. Just think he gets frustrated and gets rude.

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    aahh !! I wouldn't have Yo without WW, he's part and parcel of Yoliverpool

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