3 tunnels under The Baltic Fleet Pub...

**Scousemouse** · 11-14-2006

For those with an interest in the subject please click here.

theninesisters · 11-14-2006

The pictures displayed are:

1 - St James Mount when there was a windmill on the site (

as you can see from the picture)

2 - Smithdown Lane - Williamson Jos. excavations

William Herdman collection 486 - 1858
Mason Street, Edge Hill. West side
showing entrance to excavations
made by Joseph Williamson 1858.
Shows site of stables and rear of
Raffles' house.

I'm sure I know the manager of the Baltic Fleet from a mate of a mate, we used to beer there after bellringing at the Cathedral. If so, I'll enquire and waffle on about Tunnels and ask him if I can go down. I've put enough money in his till over the years !!!

**The Teardrop Explodes** · 11-14-2006

"I'm sure I know the manager of the Baltic Fleet from a mate of a mate, we used to beer there after bellringing at the Cathedral. If so, I'll enquire and waffle on about Tunnels and ask him if I can go down. I've put enough money in his till over the years !!!"

If the guy who manages it now is the same one who managed it a year ago there really won't be any problem whatsoever...

**snappel** · 11-14-2006

Sounds promising - keep us updated!

**george roberts** · 11-24-2006

Originally Posted by Kev

Tunnels obvious in these attachments. Liverpool but I don't know where, I assume very near to the River front:

I believe that the original cavern club was a slave hold in its earlier incarnation. Does any one have a view on that surreal claim. George Roberts.

**shytalk** · 11-24-2006

Originally Posted by george roberts

I believe that the original cavern club was a slave hold in its earlier incarnation. Does any one have a view on that surreal claim. George Roberts.

Absolute nonsense it was the cellar of an old multi story warehouse. I'm one of the old farts who went there in the late 50's when it was a jazz club.

**Waterways** · 11-25-2006

Originally Posted by shytalk

Absolute nonsense it was the cellar of an old multi story warehouse. I'm one of the old farts who went there in the late 50's when it was a jazz club.

All around there was fruit wholesalers and warehouses. They were there until the 1970s. There was a big one with a Spanish name at the bottom of Matthew Street.

scouserdave · 11-25-2006

Originally Posted by Waterways

All around there was fruit wholesalers and warehouses. They were there until the 1970s. There was a big one with a Spanish name at the bottom of Matthew Street.

That was Cocozza Wood at 1 Mathew St, John. I done a bit of work there as a kid doing stock control in the early 70s. I also used to find out the ATA of the fruit ships and pass the info on to the sales lads in the Fruit Exchange.

Gnomie · 11-26-2006

I worked on the Baltic Fleet during renovation in the late 1980`s.

The basement has big steel doors in the walls, we assumed that they would be flood gates. but you never know

the gates are fairly big and solid.

**Waterways** · 11-26-2006

Originally Posted by Gnomie

I worked on the Baltic Fleet during renovation in the late 1980`s.

The basement has big steel doors in the walls, we assumed that they would be flood gates. but you never know

the gates are fairly big and solid.

Look at the history of the site. It is on the solid land side of the docks. No docks has ever been there. There may have been a warehouse there before the pub was built. Many tunnels under pubs are short and run under the pavements so the draymen can drop the barrels down Many would start to leak water from the pavements above, so were bricked up with rubble behind.

**Ged** · 01-03-2007

Thank you Miss. Back on topic. I can confirm that there was a big back passage in the female toilets of the Baltic Fleet last xmas, it was my ma-in-law.

**helenb** · 01-05-2007

i just found this site...this is all very interesting.
i know the brewer from the baltic fleet! i am sure he knows about these tunnels i shall be sure to ask him about it when i see him.

MissInformed · 01-05-2007

oooohhhh thanks!
I am excited now!

**helenb** · 01-17-2007

I spoke to the brewer from the Baltic Fleet last week.
He said that there are tunnels there, two I think he said, one of which has been bricked up. And the pub was there before the docks were, but one of them goes to where the docks are now I think. I think he said nobody knows what the tunnels were used for. Sorry I couldn't be of much use! I thought he might let me in on exciting secrets but he didn't seem to know any.

MissInformed · 01-17-2007

Originally Posted by helenb

I spoke to the brewer from the Baltic Fleet last week.
He said that there are tunnels there, two I think he said, one of which has been bricked up. And the pub was there before the docks were, but one of them goes to where the docks are now I think. I think he said nobody knows what the tunnels were used for. Sorry I couldn't be of much use! I thought he might let me in on exciting secrets but he didn't seem to know any.

thats still brilliant!
Thanks for finding out...intrigued me even more now!