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    Jack the Ripper's suspected true identity will be revealed later, more than 100 years after his gruesome series of murders terrified London.

    The killer was never caught and there have been countless investigations, books, articles, plays, films and musicals based on the murders.

    Now, documents from the original investigation have been discovered by a descendant of the officer in charge of the case in 1888.

    The papers from Chief Inspector Donald Swanson shed new light on the notorious case and are said to contain the name of the person suspected of the crimes.

    They are being loaned to Scotland Yard's Crime Museum - the oldest of its kind in the world - for its relaunch today.

    At least five women - all prostitutes - were killed by the Ripper and there are several theories as to his identity.

    His victims were either strangled or stabbed, with some of the bodies badly mutilated and even having organs removed. Some believed he had medical training.

    Until now, those in the frame have included an employee of the Royal Family, an artist and a man called Francis Tumblety who was arrested shortly after the last killing but escaped to the US.

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    This thread mentions the possiblility JTR is buried in Anfield Cemetary. Scroll down.

    I wonder if it really was Liverpool man James Maybrick?
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    Who was Spring Heeled Jack?

    I remember reading about this years ago, apparently he jumped from roof to roof in Everton Valley.

    *googles*

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    That spring heeled jack has appeared over many years and in different locations- largely around London. Some reports said he breathed fire as well as having incredible jumping skills. Could he have been an alien??

    Ill look forward to the ripper disclosure, ive read a few books on the subject

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    James Maybrick is buried in Anfield Cemetery.

    I think it will just be another suspect to add to the long list. doubt we will ever get the true answer, but i bet they know who it was. I think it must have been more than one person.

    What sits at the bottom of the sea and scares all the other fish????????


    JACK THE KIPPER

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    Click here.

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    Cool Howie

    Sad case about Florence.

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    New documents about the identity of 1880s serial killer Jack The Ripper are to be revealed at the re-launch of Scotland Yard's Crime Museum.

    The paperwork has been donated by relatives of an officer involved in the original investigation.

    The museum, which has been re-vamped and modernised, features exhibits from famous cases dating back to 1875.

    Admission to the exhibition is by invitation only and attracts officers, crime experts and lawyers.

    At the re-launch, a relative of Ch Insp Donald Swanson, the senior investigating officer of the Jack the Ripper case, will be handing over the paperwork which provides a name suspected to be the murderer.

    Medical training

    The serial killer is believed to have killed five prostitutes in Whitechapel, east London, in 1888 but he was never caught.

    His victims were either strangled or stabbed, with some of the bodies badly mutilated and even having organs removed. Some believed he had medical training.

    The pseudonym Jack the Ripper was coined from a letter sent to a London news agency at the time of the murders, supposedly from the killer himself, but which police later dismissed as a hoax.

    Countless articles, books, plays, films and musicals are based on the unsolved murder mystery, among them 2001's From Hell, starring Johnny Depp.

    Crime novelist Patricia Cornwell's 2002 book Portrait Of A Killer set out to solve the killings using modern investigative techniques.

    She concluded that artist Walter Sickert was the real Jack the Ripper but other Ripper experts dismissed the findings.

    Suspect fled

    Also among the names mooted was Francis Tumblety who, according to a 1995 book, was arrested shortly after the last killing but escaped and fled to America.

    Another theory is that more than one person was responsible for the killings.

    The Crime Museum, stored at Scotland Yard, contains amongst other items death masks, casts of necks disfigured by rope burns and a collection of nooses hanging from a gallows.

    New exhibits have been added for relaunched museum.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5173314.stm




    I demand a museum presentation on "Spring Heeled Jack"

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    Museum given Jack the Ripper names
    Jul 13 2006

    Handwritten notes in which the police officer who led the hunt for Jack The Ripper names his chief suspect for the gruesome murders have been donated to Scotland Yard.

    The notes are contained within a book handed down through the family of Chief Inspector Donald Swanson, which was formally presented to the Metropolitan Police to mark the re-launch of its world-famous crime museum.

    In his annotations, Mr Swanson names Polish barber Aaron Kosminski as the suspect in the notorious Ripper case.

    He had made his handwritten notes in a book called The Lighter Side of my Official Life, the memoirs of Dr Robert Anderson, who was Scotland Yard's assistant commissioner at the time of the Ripper investigation.

    Mr Swanson made his personal notes in the margin, naming Kosminski and explaining why he believed him to be the killer who stalked east London back in 1888, claiming the lives of at least five women.

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    Not James Maybrick then!

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    Hi all

    To clarify what was posted above, Chief Inspector Donald Swanson's marginalia notes have been known for some years so the supposed "revelation" with the news reports making out that it was startling new information that the Ripper could have been a Polish Jewish barber, Aaron Kosminski, is not actually new at all. In fact, the apparent belief of police officials Sir Robert Anderson and Donald Swanson that the Ripper was Kosminski is countered by information from other police officers and the likelihood is that Scotland Yard did not definitely know who the killer was.

    The following which I wrote for the "I Beg" news section in Ripperologist 69 (July 2006) should add to what was posted above. By the way, I don't think James Maybrick was the Ripper and he is only in the frame because of the supposed hoax Diary that came to light in 1993 and that was apparently put together by local Liverpool forgers. There are though other valid Liverpool connections to the case through other suspects such as William Deeming, James Kelly, and Liverpool-born former prime minister William Ewart Gladstone (a long shot) as well as American quack Dr. Francis Tumblety, who is known to have lived in Liverpool in the 1870's.

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    Chief Inspector Donald S Swanson’s personal copy of Sir Robert Anderson’s 1910 memoirs The Lighter Side of My Official Life containing his handwritten marginalia notes made on the Whitechapel murders, which had been on loan to Scotland Yard’s Crime Museum, has been officially donated to the museum. The notes are significant in naming a man named ‘Kosminski’ – generally thought to mean Polish-born Jewish barber Aaron Kosminski – as the unnamed suspect whom, Anderson claims, the Yard had under scrutiny as the man responsible for the Whitechapel murders.

    The ceremony at the Metropolitan Police’s famed ‘Black Museum’ took place on 13 July. Nevill Swanson, the great-grandson of Chief Inspector Swanson, had loaned the marginalia to the Black Museum and he formally handed it over to the museum in part to help publicise the Met’s newly refurbished museum.

    Although Anderson was cautious in his memoirs, the handwritten notes are more explicit. Anderson wrote in his book: 'The only person who ever had a good view of the murderer unhesitatingly identified the suspect the instant he was confronted with him, but he refused to give evidence against him.'

    Swanson’s granddaughter, Mary Berkin, stated that the case was commonly discussed by the family. ‘It was general knowledge that my grandfather knew the name of the killer, and that there was no evidence except from a Jewish man who would not give evidence for ethical reasons,’ she said. It is thought by some students of the case that witness Joseph Lawende, who saw a man with fourth canonical victim Kate Eddowes on the night of her murder early on 30 September 1888, might have refused to testify that the man was a Jew known to him.

    Swanson’s notes apparently clarify the situation: ‘Because the suspect was also a Jew, and also because his evidence would convict the suspect, and witness would be the means of murderer being hanged, which he did not wish to be left on his mind. And after this identification, which suspect knew, no other murder of this kind took place in London.’ In clear handwriting, and initialled ‘DSS’ as in his annotations on Yard correspondence, Swanson added: ‘Kosminski was the suspect.’

    ‘My great-grandfather thought he got his man,’ Nevill Swanson said. ‘He would have thought he conducted his detecting job very well and reached a proper conclusion.’

    Partly backing up the story, the name ‘Kosminski’ also appears with those of other suspects in the memorandum written in 1894 by Assistant Chief Constable Melville Macnaghten. On hand for the Scotland Yard ceremony was Ripperologist and documents expert Keith Skinner, who said there was no proof implicating any of the suspects that have been suggested. ‘We don't know why these names come into the frame. Swanson’s [notes] produce as many questions as they do answers,’ he said. Adding to the mystery, Skinner said was that although the Jewish suspect is said to have died, Aaron Kosminski died in a mental hospital in 1919.
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    Following is the cover of a German pulp novel about a latterday Ripper in Liverpool. . . .
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    Hi all

    I am gearing up to write a couple of obituaries for Ripperologist for a couple of Philadelphians with Jack the Ripper connections. The two people are actor Jack Palance who has just died and journalist Ed Bradley. Palance played the Ripper in "Man in the Attic" based on "The Lodger." Bradley was the CBS News "60 Minutes" journalist who covered the Maybrick Diary for U.S. TV in 1993. For that piece, he interviewed author Shirley Harrison, Mike and Anne Barrett, and filmed inside Battlecrease House on Riversdale Road, the former mansion of the James and Florence Maybrick. Also he won an award for his report that helped to reopen the case of Emmet Till, the black boy killed in the south in 1955.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6139030.stm

    http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/fe...t_Bradley.html

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    The face of Jack the Ripper, the 19th-century killer whose identity still remains a mystery, has been revealed for the first time.



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    Kev, Is JTR James Maybrick or Freddie Mercury? could be either, more confused now?? ta mate
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    Snap? Severin Klosowski alias George Chapman, born in Nargoniak, occupied Poland in 1865, failed to qualify as a doctor in his home country and became a London barber. He was found guilty of poisoning three women and hanged on April 7, 1903. Usually considered an also ran as a suspect, he was in the East End at the time of the Whitechapel murders.

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