No Brian,
I think you are thinking of the De Grasse named Empress of Australi, that was brought in to replace the Empress of Canada after she was burnt.
The FUNCHAL was the ex Presidential yacht of Portugal.
No Brian,
I think you are thinking of the De Grasse named Empress of Australi, that was brought in to replace the Empress of Canada after she was burnt.
The FUNCHAL was the ex Presidential yacht of Portugal.
I received this postcard this morning, it shows the,then,current royal yacht,carrying Queen Victoria through the lines of warships for the Spithead Naval Regatta. There was no information as to what her name was ,or the year it was taking place in. I searched through my picture library and could not find a vessel that matched her specification,i.e. a 2 masted steam paddle vessel.There were quite a few yachts listed as being royal but not one that had all the attributes shown here. Anyone out there got any ideas?
BrianD
Some info here....Originally Posted by brian daley
I received this postcard this morning, it shows the,then,current royal yacht,carrying Queen Victoria through the lines of warships for the Spithead Naval Regatta. There was no information as to what her name was ,or the year it was taking place in. I searched through my picture library and could not find a vessel that matched her specification,i.e. a 2 masted steam paddle vessel.There were quite a few yachts listed as being royal but not one that had all the attributes shown here. Anyone out there got any ideas?
BrianD
In 1842 the young Queen Victoria and Prince Albert held a "Grand Naval Review." They inspected the Queen. There was little change in the ships, but officers and men looked very different. The old uniform had gone and officers wore their cocked hats "fore-and-aft," instead of"athwartships." Epaulettes had come in and, instead of breeches and buckled shoes, officers wore gold-laced trousers and black pumps. Seamen wore baggy trousers, short jackets, white-taped blue collars, and black silk scarves, set off by a beribboned straw hat. The Queen on this occasion endeared herself to her sailors, drinking a mess basin of grog, and liking it!
But times were changing. When the Queen, in 1845, inspected the experimental squadron, she used the new Victoria and Albert, first of the two paddlers, and the Board of Admiralty attended in their steam yacht, the Black Eagle. This was the last time that a Royal Review consisted only of sailing ships, and nearly the last time that the Queen could watch the Trafalgar's men run aloft and set the sails "with feline agility and astonishing celerity."
from this site -
http://battleshiphmsvanguard.homeste...stReviews.html
Could it have been the first HMY Victoria and Albert? There seem to have been three with that name, but I can't find a picture of the first one...
Good on the Queen drinking some grog in a mess basin and not royal china.....
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The schooner rigged wooden paddle-steamships PRINCE FREDERICK and GAZELLE,of 1823 and1832 respectively,were owned by the Hull Steam Packet Company,the first operators from that port, and ran between Hull and London during the months of summer. PRINCE FREDERICK was wrecked on Corton Sands, near Yarmouth in 1835,but the GAZELLE is recorded as having been still in service to Antwerp and Bremen as late as 1850.
This painting is attributed to John Wilson Carmichael, the foremost Tyneside marine artist of the 19th century.
Endeavour
This is a painting of Captain James Cook's ship HM Barque Endeavour and it shows her heading up the English Channel after his extraordinary cicumnavigation of the world. The voyage lasted 2 years and 11 months during which he chartered thousands of miles of unknown coast lines.
The study is oil on canvas and was painted by Robin Brooks
BrianD
This is the Santisima Trinidad,a Spanish First Rate ship of the line. She was the largest ship in the world,mountig four decks of artillery and fought in many battles including ,Cape Spartel, Cape St Vincent and the Battle of Trafalgar. She fought with distinction in her final battle and struck her colours to HMS Prince but she was so badly damaged that her captors removed every living thing from her,including a cat. The largest ship in the world then sank beneath the waves .
This painting was by Geoff Hunt and is oil on canvas,
BrianD
HM Bark Endeavour, with the sun behind her sails.This is a painting of Captain James Cook's ship HM Barque Endeavour and it shows her heading up the English Channel after his extraordinary cicumnavigation of the world. The voyage lasted 2 years and 11 months during which he chartered thousands of miles of unknown coast lines.
The study is oil on canvas and was painted by Robin Brooks
BrianD
We have the Victory at Portsmouth. What we need now is a reproduction of a 74 that could be taken out to sea. Something like HMS Bellerophon...or 'Billy Ruffian' to the Tars that sailed her.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."... ... ... Mark Twain.
Hi Dazza,
That was a great photograph,have you got anymore?
BrianD
HM Bark Endeavour (Replica)
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."... ... ... Mark Twain.
I have come to this question a little late, I know. There is this...I received this postcard this morning, it shows the,then,current royal yacht,carrying Queen Victoria through the lines of warships for the Spithead Naval Regatta. There was no information as to what her name was ,or the year it was taking place in. I searched through my picture library and could not find a vessel that matched her specification,i.e. a 2 masted steam paddle vessel.There were quite a few yachts listed as being royal but not one that had all the attributes shown here. Anyone out there got any ideas?
BrianD
http://www.richard-green.com/Philip-...objectid=38776
Perhaps it is the idea of the yacht being the paddle steamer that is wrong?
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...this just makes the whole mystery deeper...
http://www.scottishfishingboats.co.u...rs/alberta.htm
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...you will all enjoy this article too...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...DD405B8685F0D3
Don't think so - the HMY Fairy is listed as being a tender to the HMY Victoria and Albert (the original one)I have come to this question a little late, I know. There is this...
http://www.richard-green.com/Philip-...objectid=38776
Perhaps it is the idea of the yacht being the paddle steamer that is wrong?
Victoria and Albert (1843-1855) - remained in-service as Osbourne (1855-1867)
Fairy (1845-1863) (tender to Victoria and Albert)
From wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...United_Kingdom
The 1842 review (or a year later) still makes sense with no steamships in the fllet...
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Don't think so again...
This picture looks just like the model, and the HMY Victoria and Albert II was in service around the time of the model.
I think the model just got misnamed...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HM...k_Mitchell.jpg
CORRECTION
The Alberta did look the same as the V & A II, and was listed later...
Alberta (1863-1913) (tender to Victoria and Albert (ii))
So the model name is probably correct.
Was the reliability so bad that the Royal Yacht required a tender that was as large as the main yacht as a back-up?
MY MISTAKE again, the size was way smaller than the V & A II, 370 tons vs. 2400 odd tons.
Interesting that they look the same though - perhaps they had one design and just scaled it...
This is the flagship of the Continental Navy,the precursor to the United States Navy,she is the Bonhomme Richard and was part of a Franco American squadron commanded by the Scotsman John Paul Jones.She was an ex East Indiaman which Jones had converted to a warship carrying 40 guns. They gave the British Navy a hard time and brought the war of Independence to our shores, attacking towns on the West and East coast. In an epic moonlit battle off Flamborough Head,Jones took on the HMS Serapis,44 guns, commanded by Captain Pearson,who also had a smaller warship with him. Calling upon Jones to surrender,Jones allegedly shouted back "I have not yet begun to fight!"and then promptly boarded ,and captured the British ship. The Bonhomme Richard was so badly damaged that she sank the following day. Today ,John Paul Jones is revered as the father of the US Navy,
The painting is oil on canvas and is the work of Geoff Hunt
And the Bonhomme Richard (Bonnie Dick to some of the sailors) name has been re-used a few times since.
The current one is a Amphibious Assault Ship
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/lh...s/default.aspx
The previous one was a WWII carrier that served until the Vietnam war.
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/lh...s/history.aspx
This press release about the search for the original is also interesting....
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/lh..._JPJ-Ship.aspx
...still learning stuff...
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When ships looked like ships and they had their own derricks and hoists to move cargo in stead of dockside cranes
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Brings back the memories of old in Liverpool in late fifties and early sixties, a Federal Line ship running UK to New Zealand and Australia taking British made exports out and bringing back thousands of tons of frozen lamb and beef and the bow of one of the new Empress liners, Britain or England maybe running over to Montreal Canada with passengers and British made exports and returning with passengers and a cargo of Canadian wheat..
That was when Britain was Great and we had never heard of a stupid EU.
Thanks for the memory, Gregs Dad. I shall go and weep at what we have lost.
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