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This memorial is in St Lukes garden. According to the inscription on the tablet on the side of the picture, Ireland is the only place in Europe that has less people living there now than in 1845
cracker photo gregsdad, makes you think doesn,t it
There is a plaque on the gates of Clarence Dock. It states that 1.3 million Irish entered the port via those gates during the famine. Most immediately left via Waterloo Dock on the American packets or went to London and Manchester. Liverpool simply could not accommodate them all.
Liverpool and Philadelphia at MidcenturyQuote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Liverpool and Philadelphia played similar roles in their respective worlds.[23] Second in size and importance to the dominant metropolises of London and New York, they both enjoyed international prominence as major ports and commercial centers. Between 1831 and 1851 the borough of Liverpool's population jumped from 165,175 to 375,955. In the same two decades Philadelphia County's population more than kept pace, rising from 167,751 to 408,742.[24] Both cities, too, had large Irish populations dating from well before the potato famine. By midcentury nearly 72,000 Philadelphians (17.6 percent) and 84,000 Liverpudlians (22.3 percent) were Irish-born immigrants.[25] Philadelphia's population was otherwise more demographically diverse than its English counterpart, with nearly 50,000 (12 percent of the total population) non-Irish immigrants, including 22,750 (5.6 percent) Germans and 17,500 (4.3 percent) English natives. Over 10 percent of Liverpool's residents were non-Irish immigrants, but the vast majority of these were from neighboring Wales (20,262, 5.4 percent) and Scotland (14,059, 3.7 percent), with a mere 1.4 percent from other nations. Nearly 5 percent (19,761) of Philadelphians were African American, giving the city a racial diversity almost completely absent in Liverpool.[26]
Even in the mid 1800's almost a quarter of Liverpools population was of Irish decent, after the Famine this rose even further, just look in the phone book today for Proof!
Nice figures and how the two cities paralled each other. The figures are to around 1850. Liverpool's population rose dramatically after 1850 as it became an economic powerhouse. They came in from everywhere and from places like Scandinavia and Germany, etc, and the Welsh were far more prominent after 1850, as were just about everyone else. With 1/3 of the churches in Toxteth being Welsh and the countless Welsh street names all over the city - that tells you something it itself. Liverpool pre-WW1 had a large German population in direct German and of German decent - the Liver bird was designed by a German. The Irish did not figure that well in the post 1850 immigration to the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by H_Asbo
As most are ex directory these day, don't go by the phone book. Many may have Irish names, but the other sides of the family will invariably be from elsewhere. The people in the city freely mixed.
Many on this forum appear obsessed at perpetuating a myth that we are of predominantly Irish decent. We are not!!!! See the real picture of the city. We are very mixed with the Irish influx laying around third after the English and Welsh - which is significant in itself.
I am supprised that no one has picked up on this photo. >>>>>>>
It has been moved from its original location to make way for the New Museum.
Last time I was down there I could not find the Blue Plaque.
Phredd
Hi PhreddQuote:
Originally Posted by phredd
The Plaque was stuck up high on the wall of a Building near to the statue. impossible to read unless you are 9 feet tall.
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I've got a pic of that statue, when it was outside the Museum Of Liverpool Life (now demolished). I've seen pics of a similar statue, somewhere else in the country (I can't remember where). The Famine Plaque was on a wall nearby.
I've got pics of 5 out of 6 Famine Plaques...the 6th one is inside a school, so I don't have it. Here's transcriptions of 4 of the plaques:
Location: Price Street/Hamilton Square, Birkenhead
This area of Birkenhead provided shelter and
employment to thousands of Irish migrants in
the Famine Years 1845-52. In 1851 a quarter
of the town's population was Irish born-
the highest proportion in any British
town at that time.
Remember the Great Famine
Location: Clarence Dock
Through these dock gates passed most of the
1,300,000 Irish migrants who fled the Great
Famine and 'took the ship' to Liverpool in
the years 1845-52.
Remember the Great Famine
Location: Fenwick Street
In this street the Parish of Liverpool gave
food to many thousands of destitute
Irish migrants in the winter of 1846-7.
Remember the Great Famine
Location: Riverside wall of Museum of Liverpool Life
During the Famine years 1845-52 over one million
Irish people left from this shore to escape hunger
and poverty and to seek a new life across the seas.
Remember the Great Famine
Excellent posts everyone, cheers :PDT11
Please find attached the locations of plaques: