Controversial Martin Luther King Memorial to be Unveiled in Washington, D.C.

I must say that I don't like the memorial to Dr. Martin Luther King that is about to be unveiled on August 28 in Washington, D.C. It is a monumental statue sculpted by Chinese sculptor Lei Yi Xin. The face of Martin Luther King looks, frankly, Chinese, and the monument might be more appropriate for a colossal statue of Mao than the American civil rights leader. The statue looks threatening rather than welcoming, as some have already commented. See the Washington Post site for more information on the monument and its upcoming dedication.

Chris

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I must say that I don't like the memorial to Dr. Martin Luther King that is about to be unveiled on August 28 in Washington, D.C. It is a monumental statue sculpted by Chinese sculptor Lei Yi Xin. The face of Martin Luther King looks, frankly, Chinese, and the monument might be more appropriate for a colossal statue of Mao than the American civil rights leader. The statue looks threatening rather than welcoming, as some have already commented. See the Washington Post site for more information on the monument and its upcoming dedication.

Chris

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I guess it's all in the eye of the artist - who would have though of a Chinese MLK...:rolleyes:

I think your comments are spot on. Mao and Stalin would be proud to have statues like that.

The stone out of the mountain idea is neat, it's just overdone in size.

Thanks, AZ.

C

At $120 million cost you would have thought it would at least have looked like him. It's also far to big, what's wrong with life size, why does it have to be so massive ?

Hmm, I can't make up my mind really .. .. on first glance he does look a bit like one of the Terracotta army! :PDT_Xtremez_42: .. and I agree that it's a bit Mao like, but looking at some of the Google images, it doesn't look too bad from certain angles.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mar...w=1166&bih=653

It can only be a good thing that they made a statue to commemmorate the guy at all TBH. More deserving than most Presidents, I'd say too. The US have, maybe rightly or wrongly, looked on the appointment of this Chinese sculptor as a bad thing - thats inbuilt plain ol' USA patriotism for you. Would a White American Sculptor have tackled this on such scale or grandeur? More likely have been made in 3 years instead of the 20-odd, and for 3 or 4 million instead of the 120million. and be 6 foot tall. Then would we have had any different response? I doubt it..

Unfortunately you then look at the UK, and they'd rather spend that sort of money on unnecessary tat and plonk it in the capital so it can be called a 'national' icon. History has no value these days. Not to Joe public anyway. I say they should buckle up and appreciate what they are getting over there. I'd love to see NEW stuff like this here. Rarely do you see a statue that resmbles its subject. However I dont really think this is that bad an attempt.
He was a colossal man and quite imposing by all accounts anyway. Maybe if they wanted genteel they should have opted for Robeson and got the old McCarthy war flags back out? Or would that be a tad TOO close to the patriotic nerve?

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Hmm, I can't make up my mind really .. .. on first glance he does look a bit like one of the Terracotta army! :PDT_Xtremez_42: .. and I agree that it's a bit Mao like, but looking at some of the Google images, it doesn't look too bad from certain angles.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mar...w=1166&bih=653

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But a major memorial in a capital city should look good from all angles...:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

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It can only be a good thing that they made a statue to commemmorate the guy at all TBH. More deserving than most Presidents, I'd say too. The US have, maybe rightly or wrongly, looked on the appointment of this Chinese sculptor as a bad thing - thats inbuilt plain ol' USA patriotism for you. Would a White American Sculptor have tackled this on such scale or grandeur? More likely have been made in 3 years instead of the 20-odd, and for 3 or 4 million instead of the 120million. and be 6 foot tall. Then would we have had any different response? I doubt it..

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Nice bit of anti-Americanism...

However this Chinese-American lady made one of the most famous memorials in Washington - a few contraversies on missing content, but the genreal thought and execution was amazing and unique -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Lin

The judgement is on the output, not the artist....:002:

Sorry Az_gila - that wasnt really meant to be anti-American, but most of the arguments from US citizens have been kind of along that theme of should be 'American made by American workers'. I can understand their view, but just argued that the result would, although obviously been different, have resulted in arguments and distaste all the same. You can never win!
As for Presidents... Would you say any president has done as much for his people as such like as MLK? Nixon or JFK? debatable really... Yet a statue to them seems to be a given at times.

The Chinese have a much more refined eye for art regardless of politics, and a more specific eye for art that is embedded within Politics.. Here they have tried to be sympathetic to both ideals. I have no problems with who has made it or what the history dictates this art should be :)
I prefer to see art without politics but unfortunatley both seem to be tethered at the neck too much!
Bottom line is I like whats been done regardless of who designed or created it.

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It can only be a good thing that they made a statue to commemmorate the guy at all ..

Unfortunately you then look at the UK, and they'd rather spend that sort of money on unnecessary tat and plonk it in the capital so it can be called a 'national' icon. History has no value these days. Not to Joe public anyway.

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I can agree with that :rolleyes:

As you say, it seems that sometimes people revere tat instead of history. :nod:



It's great that there is an impressive statue of Martin Luther King whether it is a spot on likeness or not.

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...As for Presidents... Would you say any president has done as much for his people as such like as MLK? Nixon or JFK? debatable really... Yet a statue to them seems to be a given at times.
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It may be debatable, but as far as I can tell there is no real statue of either Nixon or JFK in Washington DC.

There are a few busts of both in museums and the like, and JFK has a Performing Arts Center named after him, but just markers at his gravesite in Arlington.

Recent (or at least fairly recent) presidents don't seem to get statues, so it's not realy a given...:)

The US does not seem to go for giant, way bigger than life-size statues in the Mao/Stalin tradition except for 100+ year dead presidents. That may be why the design of this one is causing controversy.

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Rapid City, SD - near Mt. rushmore, has a nice collection of presidential statues scattered around their down town area. One for each president cast life size in bronze. It's a neat collection to see -

http://www.visitrapidcity.com/whatto...yofpresidents/

No giant Mao ones here though - got to go the Mt. rushmore for that...:)

I'm not so sure that the man himself would be overly impressed by the size of this statue !

...is coming out.

The artist is an accomplished Mao statue carver -

Mr Lei, who has in the past carved two statues of Mao Tse-tung, one of which stands in the former garden of Mao Anqing, the Chinese leader's son, carried out almost all of the work in Changsha.

...and this bit, which I find pretty disgusting -

The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s family has charged the foundation building a monument to the civil-rights leader on the National Mall about $800,000 to use his words and image -- and at least one scholar thinks that Dr. King would find such an arrangement offensive.
The memorial is being paid for almost entirely through a fund-raising campaign led by the Martin Luther King Jr. National Memorial Project Foundation.
"I don't think the Jefferson family, the Lincoln family [or] any other group of family ancestors has been paid a licensing fee for a memorial in Washington," said Cambridge University historian David Garrow, author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Dr. King. ". . . [He would've been] absolutely scandalized."
Financial documents revealed that the foundation paid $761,160 in 2007 to Intellectual Properties Management Inc., an entity run by the King family. They also showed that a $71,700 "management" fee was paid to the family estate in 2003.

As Marty said, I think the good doctor would be quite unimpressed about what is going on around his statue - rolling over in his grave comes to mind.

As to my previous comments on the size of statues of long deceased presidents, this clip says that it even out does the two most famous DC statues in size! It is also like my earler cathederal "visual massing" comments - not only is the statue itself physically large, but the "mountain" behind it makes it overwhelming compared to the other two famous memorials.

The statue, meanwhile, will be 11ft taller than the statues in the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials.

I think we will hear a lot more complaints as more information becomes nationally available. A pity since it diverts attention away from the real intent of the unveiling.

Thanks, AZ. Of course I am more aware of the monument and the impending unveiling because I work in D.C. I emailed the following to Courtland Milloy, an African-American writer with the Washington Post, who asked for readers' reactions to the monument. He emailed back to say he agreed with me. As you will see from the following, I have written for a local Baltimore publication about monuments to prominent blacks.

Hello Mr Milloy

I love a well designed monument and as a local historian I have written about Baltimore monuments for The Urbanite magazine in Baltimore (http://www.baltimoremd.com/monuments/douglass1.html and http://www.baltimoremd.com/monuments/thurgood.html) however I find the MLK monument as designed to be disturbing and unfriendly in that it facially doesn't look enough like Dr. King and doesn't project his kinder, humanitarian side.

It is perhaps significant that the sculptor, Lei Yi Xin, is Chinese and he has made Dr. King look Chinese rather than African American. How did his design get approved? While the size of this monumental scupture is fitting to the stature of Dr. King -- and I do like the mountain concept -- the way he is modeled in that hostile stance is more fitting to a sculpture for Mao than for America's great Civil Rights leader. This is unfortunate, in my view.

Best regards

Christopher T. George

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The memorial is costing $120 million part of it coming from the Hilfiger Foundation

Chris

Not impressed....there are some much better statues of MLK...............

http://www.ethicsoup.com/americas-ma...hoto-tour.html

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I love a well designed monument and as a local historian I have written about Baltimore monuments for The Urbanite magazine in Baltimore ....

Chris

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I am on a local town board, and one of it's functions is approving public art.
Our town has a 1% of cost requirement for public art - the code requirements being here -

http://www.orovalleyaz.gov/Assets/_a...Public+Art.pdf

This one would have caused considerable discussion on some of the code points...:)

Location and fitting in...

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Not impressed....there are some much better statues of MLK...............

http://www.ethicsoup.com/americas-ma...hoto-tour.html

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Good job the Chinese artist didn't see this one

http://ethicsoup.typepad.com/.a/6a00...712c970c-800wi

Or he would have used one of his previous ones and copied it....:)

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/011/9/9...b2341b6-LL.jpg

But even the Chinese seem to have a better review criteria -

According to the regulation, mass-produced Mao statues must pass a strict examination by at least five experts to ensure the expression, hairstyle, facial- and body-features, costume and posture reflect Mao’s real appearance. What’s more, the statue cannot be made out of plastic. If there are Mao statues failed to meet the new technical criteria, they may be confiscated and destroyed by relevant authorities.