Scotland Road and Kirkdale Area

I work for the Scottie Press and we are looking for items of local interest for our paper and website. Has your eldest won a scholarship to Oxford is your gran 101, local pub teams won a cup, outings, charity events anything and everything that may be of local interest. Pictures old and new are also most welcome. I can be contacted at
crogan@scottiepress.org and I welcome contributions from young and old alike, anything will be looked at although I cannot guarantee that I will be able to publish everything. It's not the *** after all.
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Originally Posted by spress

It's not the *** after all.

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I'm intrigued as to what the offensive three letter word is that's been removed. Could it be the name of the Rupert's rag that besmirched Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough?

To keep on topic, This morning I drove up Fountains Road and saw my old local the Kendal Castle had just been demolished along with what was left of the school.

Lot's of people lined Westminster Rd crying their eyes out.:shock:

Yes oddsocks, I should imagine that the 3 letter word, (which in our house is a swear word) does have something to do with the Hillsborough events.

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Originally Posted by Oddsocks

I'm intrigued as to what the offensive three letter word is that's been removed. Could it be the name of the Rupert's rag that besmirched Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough?

To keep on topic, This morning I drove up Fountains Road and saw my old local the Kendal Castle had just been demolished along with what was left of the school.

Lot's of people lined Westminster Rd crying their eyes out.:shock:

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Kirkdale is only a shadow of the community it once was :(

The Kendall has been gone for a year or so now. The whole Easby estate is coming down for new housing. I learned to swim in Wessy Road baths and saw Everton stay up in the old bill pub (ex bridewell) when locked out the game at 2.20pm.

My mum was born in Fountains Road Kirkdale, back in the early 1900s. She was from a large family.(Which were usual in those days) They lived in a large victorian house. She used to have to clean/whiten the steps outside the front door, this was her chore. That she had to do. Her father was a stoker on The Lusitania, so her mum or ma, as she called her. Depended on her older sons to help out alot, whilst her husband was away at sea.

All over Liverpool famous old watering holes have, or are being demolished. The Town Planners have gone berserk, they're tearing the place down.
Big empty spaces are all that's left of old neighbourhoods. Old timers knew these spaces as the Debris or Bomdies it's a reference to the blitz.

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"Well, I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking
Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away"
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Originally Posted by lindac8941

My mum was born in Fountains Road Kirkdale, back in the early 1900s. She was from a large family.(Which were usual in those days) They lived in a large victorian house. She used to have to clean/whiten the steps outside the front door, this was her chore. That she had to do. Her father was a stoker on The Lusitania, so her mum or ma, as she called her. Depended on her older sons to help out alot, whilst her husband was away at sea.

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My Dad was born in Fonthill road , my Nanna and Grandad lived there until they died , it was the big house at the top of ' the brew' .

I have heard my mum talk about fonthill road, many a time, but dont know it, my mum, when she was young, used to drink all along Walton/County road. The Salutation was one of the pubs, is that still there???

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I have heard my mum talk about fonthill road, many a time, but dont know it, my mum, when she was young, used to drink all along Walton/County road. The Salutation was one of the pubs, is that still there???

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Fonthill road runs from Fountains road , through to Melrose Road .. Rumney Road cuts across it too .. My little girls dad was born in North Dingle , his Mother was born in Fountains road , i remember sitting on their step with his aunties and his mum , when was little , they used to mind me while my dad went for a pint with his mates ..

I remember Fountains road, as my brother lived in Freeland Street when I was young, so I was always in the Walton area. I know my mum lived near the bottom of Fountains Road, not Walton Road end, but dont know whereabouts or the number of the house.

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I remember Fountains road, as my brother lived in Freeland Street when I was young, so I was always in the Walton area. I know my mum lived near the bottom of Fountains Road, not Walton Road end, but dont know whereabouts or the number of the house.

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I know where you mean Linda , there will be photo's on Geds site , there is one of my Nanna's house on there .

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Originally Posted by spress

It's not the *** after all.
Thanks

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Sorry, but I don't get it either: the implication (if we are talking about that newspaper) is that that organ 'publishes everything'. Shome mishtake, shurely?

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Originally Posted by spress

I work for the Scottie Press and we are looking for items of local interest for our paper and website. Has your eldest won a scholarship to Oxford is your gran 101, local pub teams won a cup, outings, charity events anything and everything that may be of local interest. Pictures old and new are also most welcome. I can be contacted at
crogan@scottiepress.org and I welcome contributions from young and old alike, anything will be looked at although I cannot guarantee that I will be able to publish everything. It's not the *** after all.
Thanks

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Sorry dont know your first name, however its nice to know you have taken over the mantle of a good informative local paper, I'm sure you will get good snippets of interest from the forum members, Scotland Road and the Vauxhall and Kirkdale areas always topics of interest. I drove down Vauxhall Road yesterday , what are they digging up near to the Eldonian estate ,(Old T&L site) , I know lots of locals asking the same question.

Good Luck,

Hello,


This i sreally good. i also like this area very much i been there one time and it is really good to be there.


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This is probably a dead easy question for most ppl on here. I was on the bus back to bootle from town today and just before the Wallasey tunnel entrance there's a white building with arched windows set back from the road. Looks like it's had it's top chopped off too. Was it a church ? if not then what was it ?

Ok it's not white but it's this building

Google Maps

It was a school,at one time,though I've no idea what it was called (Ged!!!)!If you go around the corner to the right,it still has "boy's entrance" over a blocked up doorway! I don't think that was it's last use though,as I can vaguely remember walking past it,in the late 60's,and there was a sign referring to civil defence?

In 1848 it was Bevington Bush School. The doorway and side entrance is shown both on the map and the Google Streetview photo. Ged may have some photo's of it on innercityliving?

Also, Bevington Bush Baths [on the corner of Paul Street] by 1906 had become "St. Saviour's Refuge."


1848-64 OS map courtesy of LRO. Image Google Streetview.
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...l8077/Bev2.jpg

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...l8077/Bev3.jpg

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Originally Posted by dazza

In 1848 it was Bevington Bush School. Bevington Bush Baths [on the corner of Paul Street] by 1906 had become "St. Saviour's Refuge." Ged may have some photo's of it on innercityliving?


1848-64 OS map courtesy of LRO. Image Google Streetview.
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...l8077/Bev2.jpg

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...l8077/Bev3.jpg

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Good stuff Dazza! That's the front,the doorway(s) are just around the corner! Sounds like it's had several uses in it's time,till it became some sort of building depot/lorry park? The swimming baths were known as Burrough's baths,and was only demolished fairly recently.The memorial plaque from the building is stored at the "Sylvestrian" club,down the road!(that's what I was told,anyway?)

Hi Steve, I think you're right. This looks like a secondary entrance.

Ha, I can just imagine their little faces looking out the window waiting for the school bell to go? lol :)

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...l8077/Bev5.jpg

This has got me thinking about the piece of land more or less, next to where the baths were.It's on Scotland rd. itself,and is surrounded by railings,but there's nothing there now? (unless they've built some flat's!:unibrow:)

Ged, do you have any photos of Bevington Bush School. See post#20.

Ta,
Daz

Of course ;)


We had to go there as a nit nurse and BCG clinic circa 1973/74


Copyright of Joe Devine.



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Originally Posted by Ged

We had to go there as a nit nurse and BCG clinic

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Thanks Ged, great picture. :PDT11
So the place had different memories for you? lol. It's a bit ichy round here....? :002:

The name of the school is St Bridgets which I attended for a short while back in the olden days.

It was originally North Corporation School.





However, here is a new book, out just this week with dozens of glossy pics of the Scottie Road area and well worth it.


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Features on or by Ron Formby of the Scottie Press, Bob Parry MP, Historian Frank Carlyle and David Logan to name but a few.

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Lol
Is it where all the italians lived?

No Nick , the Italians lived a bit further along , in the Gerard gardens area , Scotland road was home to a lot of the Irish .

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No Nick , the Italians lived a bit further along , in the Gerard gardens area , Scotland road was home to a lot of the Irish .

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Is Gerard gardens still Scottie Road? I thought that was where Little Italy is

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Is Gerard gardens still Scottie Road? I thought that was where Little Italy is

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It's further along , nearer town end , but it's not far from Scottie , about ten minutes on the bus ..

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about ten minutes on the bus ..

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Ouch
That's in another town :D

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Ouch
That's in another town :D

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It is'nt , you could walk it if you cut through mile end , not far at all .. Anyway , it's all been knocked down now , take a look at Geds site .. inercityliving ..

little italy was mainly off byrom st

Gerard Gardens to Scotland Road was 5 minutes walk as Scottie begins at the end of Byrom st - ie the end of Addison St.

Little Italy though was generally the border of Christian St/Hunter St/Byrom St and Richmond Row which contained within it Gerard St, Bennett St, Baptist st and Circus st with many little streets running off them such as Whale st, Thurlow st, Downe st and Kilin st. This was all pre Gerard Gardens from the mid 1800s to 1935 with still quite a few Italian families remaining after the slum clearance programme.

Holy Cross up to the Kirkdale boundary was largely Catholic Irish. Great Homer St up across Netherfield Rd to St. Domingo Road was largely Protestant Irish.