Julia Wallace Murder Case

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Originally Posted by lindylou

There are very few of the original old neighbours remaining in Wolverton st. I can think of only 2 still there from when I was growing up in the street. (they will be in the 60s and 70s age group). Over the years older ones have died or some have moved.
Mostly there are a lot of new young families who have moved in and don't know a lot about the Wallace case. Some have never heard of it.

Mark as you know there are many families in Anfield who have been here for generations - people like your family and mine - our mothers and grandmothers who knew everyone.
There can't be many left now from the Wallace era, - people who were old enough to have been around when the case was on - they are long gone now unless they are in their 90s !! :) or even older - the ones born in early 1900's ! My grandmother would have been over 100 if she was still alive !!

but it would be interesting if any remaining elderly Anfielders (perhaps the ones who are in their 70s or 80s now) could tell any stories about what they might have been told.
We had an elderly uncle in our family who was an insurance man during that era, and he remembered Wallace.
My grandmother actually had spoken to Wallace when she went to the house to pay some insurance money. but no one ever knew enough to add any more information to what the police already knew.

When I grew up in Wolverton st there were some elderly neighbours who were old enough and from the Wallace generation - but none of them could throw any more light on the matter.

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Great post Lindy,
What you said about people not being around Wolverton St now that were around at the time of the case- I completely agree. But as you said, their children and their children's children may have some little tales or anecdotes.

Worth a try I say!:)

Hi DaisyChains. It's quite amazing really the interest that people still have in this case. I wonder if we will ever know the truth ?? I would like to think that one day we will find out. :)

I wonder if interest in the Wallace murder will eventually diminish as the younger generations won't be aware of the story, or are not particularly interested ?? I mean - young kids like my son's age have never heard of the Wallace murder, and it's only because I grew up in that street that I told my son the tale. I tell him that it is surprising how even today there are still people delving into the mystery.

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Originally Posted by lindylou

Hi DaisyChains. It's quite amazing really the interest that people still have in this case. I wonder if we will ever know the truth ?? I would like to think that one day we will find out. :)

I wonder if interest in the Wallace murder will eventually diminish as the younger generations won't be aware of the story, or are not particularly interested ?? I mean - young kids like my son's age have never heard of the Wallace murder, and it's only because I grew up in that street that I told my son the tale. I tell him that it is surprising how even today there are still people delving into the mystery.

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I think people still have so much interest in it because if Wallace did it, then he committed the perfect murder.

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Originally Posted by SteH

I think people still have so much interest in it because if Wallace did it, then he committed the perfect murder.

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That is very true.
Although I have heard more cases for Wallace NOT doing it!:shock:

Thanks DaisyChains

Hi lindylou

Yes, my Grandparents (and other relatives) would regularly see both Wallace and Julia in the area. My grandfather was convinced of Wallace's innocence but my great aunt, his guilt. They lived in Clarendon Road. My grandfather and great aunt would sit up until the early hours discussing the case. She said she always knew there was something about him - "it was his cold hands" (she must have noticed this when paying him...). Even though I have always been interested in the case, I regret not asking them questions regarding the case. I always wonder what became of the Prudential books they must have owned. Wallace's signature would have been in those books...

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Originally Posted by DaisyChains

That is very true.
Although I have heard more cases for Wallace NOT doing it!:shock:

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Totally true DaisyChains. I think there are cartainly more points in favour of Wallace's innocence.

20th January falls on a Sunday next month. It will be the 77th anniversary of the crime. I will probably go to Wolverton Street (for 6.30). Then head off on the route Wallace took on the same evening 77 years earlier. Probably drive this time though...

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Originally Posted by Mark R

20th January falls on a Sunday next month. It will be the 77th anniversary of the crime. I will probably go to Wolverton Street (for 6.30). Then head off on the route Wallace took on the same evening 77 years earlier. Probably drive this time though...

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Simply great idea! hehe :)

Is this really holy Trinity church on Richmond Park and Breck Road? It looks a different colour than I remember, it was always so black and imposing. Do you have any other pics of Richmond Park. Are the Swings still there?

yes there are still swings there and Holy Trinity had a makeover :)

I will have a look if I've got any photos, but please bear with me as I'm a bit hectic at the mo.

Can anyone guess where this is? And who lived there?

Is that one of those roads in Tuebrook ?

Osborne perhaps?

It is Tuebrook - but not Osborne.

hmm .. well it must be Victoria, or the far end of Winsor rd ? :unibrow:


I don't know who lived there tho'

No, not Windsor or Victoria :)

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Originally Posted by Mark R

No, not Windsor or Victoria :)

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I don't know where in Tuebrook cos I really don't know that area too well, but I am eager to find out!!!

oh stupid me - - it's Marlborough ! :) isn't it ? Where the British legion is.

ha,ha.

No. Not Marlborough either!:)

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Originally Posted by Mark R

No. Not Marlborough either!:)

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Give us a clue Mark!

... hmm, well, it can't be Buckingham - I think the houses in that road are slightly smaller ..
er .. it's gotta' be Sandringham then ! :unibrow:

Nope. I'll give you a clue: it is not on that side of West Derby Road.

where those castellated house are ?? you know the ones that look a bit like castles? :)

ooh I know ! do you mean around Green lane ? by St Cecilias ? Tynwald hill ??

Kremlin, Moscow ? - it has to be one of the Russian roads - that's where the big houses are.

any more guesses and you,ll have covered liverpool lindy:hug:

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Originally Posted by lindylou

ooh I know ! do you mean around Green lane ? by St Cecilias ? Tynwald hill ??

Kremlin, Moscow ? - it has to be one of the Russian roads - that's where the big houses are.

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Who lived there Mark?
Parry?

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Originally Posted by lindylou

ooh I know ! do you mean around Green lane ? by St Cecilias ? Tynwald hill ??

Kremlin, Moscow ? - it has to be one of the Russian roads - that's where the big houses are.

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My guess is its Belmont Drive or Newsham Drive.

I think it was Parry's girlfriend or mother who lived in or off Kremlin Drive.

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Originally Posted by SteH

My guess is its Belmont Drive or Newsham Drive.

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You're right - Belmont Drive. Now, as Loyd Grosman would say; "who would live in a house like that?"

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Originally Posted by DaisyChains

Who lived there Mark?
Parry?

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Hi DaisyChains

No, it wasn't Parry

Hi mark. I know where you are now ! :D

I don't automatically think of Belmont drive as being Tuebrook so that threw me slightly.
Belmont drive - it probably does come under the Tuebrook border, but it's confusing as it's almost creeping over towards Fairfield and it's so near to Anfield too. :)

Yes, you're right lindylou. It is confusing as to where exactly it is. My side of the road (by Tuebrook market) is L13, yet just across West Derby Rd is L6! I'm just calling it in Tuebrook because I think the sign for Tuebrook is now on Rocky Lane, leading down to Belmont Drive.

I've lost track now - have you told us yet who lives there ? :D

Not yet. Do you want me to?

Wait a bit longer and see if Ged or Daisychains can come up with the answer.

I'm taking a wild guess here - is it anyone who was involved with the court case ?

(I'm getting a bit blurred with the Judges' residence around the corner !) :)

Not directly with the court case.

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Originally Posted by Mark R

Not directly with the court case.

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I hold my hands up and surrender!!

Can you tell us please oh oracle of the Wallace case??!!

Ha,ha, yes tell us now. Ged hasn't turned up ! :smirk:

Is it Parkes?:shock:

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Originally Posted by steve miller

Is it Parkes?:shock:

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Hi Steve

No it wasn't Parkes

Any more guesses or do you want me to reveal the answer?

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Originally Posted by Mark R

Hi Steve

No it wasn't Parkes

Any more guesses or do you want me to reveal the answer?

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Reveal! Reveal!!