Wavertree - Edge Hill Areas

Thanks for the pix of the church Kev. I was wondering when that would go. I know part of the scheme is controversial,however I think it will put some life back into the area-it's just too quiet. Perhaps once the new houses are up,the Spekeland will re-open. Incidentally,there's a planning application to restore some of the old goods offices on the opposite side in the works-as site offices for the go-kart arena being made out of the old railway sheds next to the station. [unrelated to the other scheme to make an arts centre out of disused buildings on the station itself]

Dave.

The first 4 Streets going down the hill from Wavertree Road/Marmaduke Street junction. I'd be interested to know what the William Hill building was, as it has a certain look that doesn't fit in with the rest of the street (reminds me of Woolworths). These were taken mid-2007.

Marmaduke to Martensen
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Martensen to Cicely
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Cicely to Winifred
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Winifred to Janet
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If I'm not mistaken...The William Hill building used to bea supermarket...Crawfords I think it was.
I don't remember Blacks being on the corner as it is now.

Woolworths used to be were the Art shop is now at the top next to Taskers.

I don't know how I missed this thread...I've just spent the last 40 mins going through it!
The little buildings along Tunnel road did used to belong to coal merchants, I remember going inside one when I was a kid (They were still in use in the early 60's)..
I remember going to my oldest sisters wedding in the Church opposite them in Tunnel road (Now demolished)..About 1960!

The picturehouse "The Tunny" was my local flea pit.
I remember seeing Zulu, Battle of the Buldge, Stitch in time (Norman Wisdom) and all of the Saturday matinees there.

Such great memories!!

Picton Road (by Picton Crescent). There is a name on the right, where the brick-work differs...MARIENBU? Just wondering what it stands for.

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Marienburg by any chance??

Probably is. I was looking along Picton Road for date-stones etc, but that was the only thing that caught my eye, so far.

The home of Joseph Williamson on Mason street, or one of them anyway. The facade has been left up, supported by steels.



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One of the Waterloo Tunnel shafts just as it emerges from the back of Archbishop Blanch school, this is looking West towards the river. It seems to have been extended at the top at some point in time.



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Houses on the junction of Upper Mason Street and Irvine Street.


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Continuing up Irvine Street with St. Mary's church popping above.


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excellent :handclap:

My mate lives in that house on the corner of Upper Mason Street/Irvine Street and did most of the work himself - it was more or less a shell when he got his hands on it!

my grandad use to have his fruit and veg cart on the corner of one of them streets i cant remember which one though it might be janet street, i know it was right opposite the now police station
brilliant pictures
debbie

does anyone know which of them shops was a chippie?

The stables and goods yard.

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The dwellings for the stables/goods yard workers.

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The rear of and rooftops of the old Mason street property. Smithdown Lane police HQ are in the background.

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Shoeing a horse at Smithdown Lane stables.

I've researched in to the Stable Yard at Edge Hill and have loads of original pictures and drawings from when it was 'new' - 1860.

Have a nose at my website www.smithdownlane.com :PDT11

That's a cracking site Cad, well done for recording it :handclap:

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Shoeing a horse at Smithdown Lane stables.

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i've seen a 100+ horses shod but never in this way, great pic

It's better this way as you can even do it when they're asleep. ;)

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It's better this way as you can even do it when they're asleep. ;)

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looks like a nightmare

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That's a cracking site Cad, well done for recording it :handclap:

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Cheers Lad. That website was done in 48 hours with very little sleep. The land was to be auctioned off on the Monday and someone suggested that I put something on-line on the friday night as a last ditch attempt.

I e-mailed the sellers on the Sunday evening and they took it off for sale! :PDT11

The Lord Mayors cars used to be kept at the stables too. I remember seeing them in and out regularly when I worked across the road in the mid 70s.

What amazed me Cad, on one of those pics on your site, is the number of chimney pots on that block of tennies. A similiar block I lived in with 6 flats per landing only had a chimney for each flat even though there was a fire in the living room and one in the largest bedroom - so 12 fires sharing 6 chimneys. It looks like they've got a chimney per fire there though - posh or what :)

fantastic pictures

Casterton Street footy match 1978 - Edge Hill.





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that's how i remember edge hill, wavertree road etc when i was younger everywhere was derelict. you did'nt have a pot to piss in but you where happy
great picture ged

just showed my daughter who is 15 the picture/ and told her this is what we grew up around, she just said omg it's minging

I have a 15 year old daughter and a couple who are a little older. I rib them now about how spoilt they are, lifts everywhere, central heating set for 6am, pc games etc etc - they tell me 'We don't live in the olden days anymore dad'. :)

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There's a church in Ashfield, Wavertree - I don't know the name of it but it's being demolished right now. It was a large church - do you know it Cadfael?

People have been going along there to salvage bits and pieces for momentos of the church.

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oh how sad, I remember it well. I lived in the next street, Ash Grove for a couple of years and long before that I often played around there when part of the Grove and Wavertree Vale was a bomb site. There used to be a stone gateway at the Grosvenor Rd end of Ashfield for years and around there loads of very old stone walls. I think the whole wall was demolished in the 80's/90's.
I even remember the last old house on the Vale burning down in the 70's.

this is Plumer St where I spent the first 21 years of my life. I still wander down that way every now and again, it's embedded into my heart.

from the Picton Rd end. the first house used to be a laundrette.
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from the Grosvenor Rd end
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my old house
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happy days

ged we did live in the olden days lol
my kids asked me once (mum did you write on slate ):shock:

quincy i lived in ashfied when when i was a baby
my parents moved to grovenor road in the early 80's
they did,nt tell me they had moved i was working in the i.o.m/ i got a bloody shock when me dad met me off the boat and said (oh because your mother hated runcorn i have got her this little house)
and little it was 2 bedrooms upstairs no bathroom and a tiny kitchen
i never lived there long i think all 6 of us would have killed each other

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ged we did live in the olden days lol
my kids asked me once (mum did you write on slate ):shock:

quincy i lived in ashfied when when i was a baby
my parents moved to grovenor road in the early 80's
they did,nt tell me they had moved i was working in the i.o.m/ i got a bloody shock when me dad met me off the boat and said (oh because your mother hated runcorn i have got her this little house)
and little it was 2 bedrooms upstairs no bathroom and a tiny kitchen
i never lived there long i think all 6 of us would have killed each other

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we had no bathroom in Plumer St either. or a proper kitchen it was a lean to on the back with a corrugated plastic roof! Plus an outside loo. my mums boss built a wooden roof when the plastic one finally gave way after a heavy snowfall.
they were small houses, but then I didn't know any different.

my great grandma lived here in Grosvenor Rd in the late 40's early 50's
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last time I was down that way i got a couple of pics of the old fountain on Picton Rd. Does anyone remember the fire hydrant that used to be on Picton Rd between MacDonald St and Bishopgate or the Lock Shop that was on the corner of Wavertree Vale. Had a giant key above the door and was run by 2 old sisters. Right antwacky place that was.
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Paul (the Gardens) and I were up at Olive Mount Community centre again last night for a screening of his film and a display of my model.

After I'd set up I was shown around Monkswell Place flats. Built in a very arty style, I was told that a lot of the aesthetic steelwork was implemented because Cosmopolitan ran out of money and it should have been glass. Apparently it rattles in the winter, wind sweeps through there and during the last heavy snowfall, the water dripped though as it melted. Apart from that :) they look sw-anky. (don't dare tell the residents though that some may think it looks like a 21st century prison ;))




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Some of the art work on the walls and around the lifts.

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There were also a couple of pics on the wall of the community centre of Olive Mount Heights which i've added to the high rise page of my website below.
Housing Action Trust (HAT) bought these along with the rest of the citys high rise, new apartments now stand off Mill Lane in their place.

these were taken by a friend of my late dads, but sadly he didn't give him one of the front.
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here's the only pic I can find of the front. Disgraceful how it was demolished. 'accidentally on purpose' I heard. the Iceland and other units were supposed to build behind it.
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Has anyone got any idea what this is, situated between Helena St and Woodside Street. An old lock up perhaps?

I think it may be an old ventilation shaft from one of the railway tunnels that ran underneath to/from Edge Hill Station & Lime St.

I know there were some around there. they were capped off to stop people climbing and falling down them

Hi Ste,

That is a capped ventilation shaft for the Railway tunnel below. Capped off so you can't be thrown down there as it's a fair drop.

Thanks Quincyg and Nightowl

Just for clarification, it's a vent from the Waterloo Tunnel :PDT11

There are a number of these if you follow the Waterloo tunnel route, notably at Norton Street, in the grounds of Archbishop Blanch school, Crown street,
Mason Street and of course the one pictured (off the top of my head). The others are taller though and so not capped off.

Great pics...quincyg...any chance of posting a bigger version of the front of the goods yard on Wavertree/Tunnel Rd.?

I was brought up about 100 yards from that on Wavertree Rd. Brings back lots of memories.