Garston News Views and Discussion

I've enjoyed reading all comments re Garston, and I must admit that I can see both (or

all) sides of the discussion! As a Senior Citizen, (mid 70's) I probably look more fondly on Garston now that I don't live there, than when I did! and

I must also admit, that as a youngster growing up there we always considered that we were somewhat 'apart' from Liverpool as the 'city'! ("if you know

what I mean") perhaps the reason for that is buried in the past! As a child though, Garston was a great place to grow-up, and the boundries were far

reaching, Woolton, Hunts Cross, Hale, Halewood, all within reach of Garston Village, and more interesting place's to visit than 'the City' environs. I

played football on the fields known as 'The Willows' alongside Horrocks Avenue, 'walked' through 'The Avenue' to Hunts Cross, and Speke, and strolled

through all the parks to Woolton, all without using public transport, or even having money in ones pocket, and I must add! all done safely!! Can we say the

same now?:PDT_Xtremez_12:

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Originally Posted by lindylou

We don't think there is a Jewish connection in the family - well not that close as regards the family tree .... maybe there could

have been in days of yore! :)

It's just intriguing that both Frank and Bob Kett had pawn shops.

Kett doesn't sound like a Jewish name does

it ??

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Hi! Sorry I mentioned the name! but I do remember Frank Ketts shop! and I don't think he was Jewish! but then I was only a child

then!!:celb (23):

Hi

sweetpatooti it was nice to hear there is still a strong community full of fight!
Seeing those pictures was not nice. :disgust: And trying to

imagine the place formerly full of life when it looks like an abandoned - I dont know what! was difficult.
Yea the spirit of garston was echo's through

other parts of the city, I wasn't saying it wasn't LOL, but I was just trying to say why garstonians weren't backward villiage people when they felt

miffed at development encroaching on their area and why I couldn't understand what NOT going to liverpool centre proved. If someones going to make

judgements, let them be for decent reasons, not because people didn't feel the need to go out of their home area and fancied protecting their turf, if you

know what I mean.

Good Luck for the future. x

Norm I think my dad agrees with you that the fondness came later, having had to leave, at the

time it just was what it was.
Nice to read your memories
x
MM

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Originally Posted by robbo176

Hi Lindylou
I have a 1938

Directory

Kett Frank -pawnbroker 3 & 5 King St,Garston 1257 Res. 20 Newlands St Anfield 1370 (the numbers are phone numbers)

Kett Robert

-pawnbrokers manager 59 Bidston Rd

there are a few other Ketts listed if you would like them too

hope that helps
Mandy

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Mandy,

thanks so much for that. :celb (23):

Bob Kett 59 Bidston rd .... that's got me thinking .... there is a Bidston rd off Utting Ave - not far from

where we live in Anfield.

Newlands st (no longer there) ... I seem to remember that it was up the top of Breck rd - so the family story of Bob Kett

having a pawn shop up there must have got a bit confused with the residential address of Frank.

It looks as though Frank and Bob must have been

related. Brothers maybe.
Will have to try and do a bit of research.

Thanks once again. :) :)

ps,

Thanks to NormNZ for mentioning Frank Kett ... or I wouldn't have

found this out. :celb (23):

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Originally Posted by Waterways

Quoting him means you are scraping the barrel.

Sad but true.

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:roll:

Have'nt you a duck pond and the peoples heritage to save Watership,instead of being abusive and divisive

with a brand new member ? ... Hello there Merseymay


Never mind Watership hes a little, you

know..erm..http://www.unison.ie/images_papers/n...res/326460.jpg


:D

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Originally Posted by FKoE

<snip

babble>

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Take no notice of him. He will go away.

Don't spoil a good

thread!!

:Colorz_Grey_PDT_24::Colorz_Grey_PDT_24:

disappointed

It is a great thread :celb (6):

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Originally Posted by lindylou

It is a great thread :celb (6):

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I agree!! It's memories like these that

keep 'oldies' like myself going!!
One mention of a certain name, or area, brings back so many other fond memories. Regards to ALL. Norm.:celb (6):

Hi All

Well some things haven't changed under the bridge. Found out today my folks old friends are still running

the kings after many many years! That was nice to hear. Puts a bit of context into the areas redevelopment for those of us very far away. Not everything

of old is gone, just almost everything :rolleyes: . The new housing will be nice for the area I'm sure.

I have a Q:
Will the original inhabitants

be able to move back in to the houses? Like, will they get first preference? I imagine not everyone would want to but if they want to do they get first

dibs?

http://static.flickr.com/79/269181751_0d6a783b49.jpg

The pub at the end of the

picture has now been demolished.

Is there any

word on how much the new houses (the ones for private purchase) will be worth? sorry if this is covering old territory.

MM

Hello Kev

Stunning pictures and video of what has become of Garston under the bridge. Also got a lot out of the discussion. Wow. Having been brought up in Mossley Hill I know the area and found the images to be startling. I take it that the parish church is being preserved, is that right? What about the old well across the road in what it looks like you designated as the old mill (?). I saw it when I was a lad interested in local history, also took a photograph of what was thought to be a "vinegar stone" to disinfect money in the old churchyard though that might have been my wishful thinking. The square stone had a hole in the middle of it and faces at each of the four top corners.

Chris

The church will stay, the well across the rd? I never knew about that, must investigate :)

Could do a few pics down Garston at the weekend when sister brings the camera back from France.

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Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge

also took a photograph of what was thought to be a "vinegar stone" to disinfect money in the old churchyard though that might have been my wishful thinking. The square stone had a hole in the middle of it and faces at each of the four top corners.

Chris

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There are some old columns from the church before this one - could that be it? The church there now is from 1875 or thereabouts. Oh - I went to Quarry Bank as well - but it had gone comprehensive when I went - still a great school though and still has some of the old masters.I

Whats going on with the site of what was the St Mary's Hotel? I was down there last night and the old pub is now a building site! It's not often a former pub which has been burned down gets it's vacant site built upon so quickly! The Astoria in Walton is a prime example of this!

Will have to get round there soon, I have been concetrating on Bootle recently and also Ellesmere Port.

Some more pics of opposite St. Mary's Church, Garston Under The Bridge - 13th November 2006

http://static.flickr.com/122/296443424_8faa85d16a.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/100/296443357_789cd1a59e.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/101/296442589_d74a10c075.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/117/296442485_e86e8ad2c3.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/111/296442434_c2c558ab8f.jpg
^^This is interesting^^

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Originally Posted by wallasey

Whats going on with the site of what was the St Mary's Hotel?

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Du you mean the Garston Hotel? If yes then I have my suspiscions about that. There was a news article about it saying the demolision company were soon to demolish it, then it was burnt out even more, resulting in a mega quick demolision of the site. They are now building housing on it, which is flying up.

St. Michael's Church, Garston: I havn't been in the grave yard since I was 11 years old, weird experience. I tried looking for the Pirate's Grave I once saw as a kid.

http://static.flickr.com/114/296442535_69dd8d3125.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/104/296442895_4bdee94223.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/110/296443273_66b856bd80.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/100/296442805_593c3614e6.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/119/296442712_cb63d9277f.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/109/296443022_7563f2aa79.jpg
^^old grave^^

Old Garston Station:

http://static.flickr.com/103/296539176_9e258806dc.jpg

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Originally Posted by sweetpatooti

There are some old columns from the church before this one - could that be it? The church there now is from 1875 or thereabouts. Oh - I went to Quarry Bank as well - but it had gone comprehensive when I went - still a great school though and still has some of the old masters.I

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Thanks, sweetpatooti. I remember there were various bits of sandstone lying around the churchyard when I took my pic of what I thought was a "vinegar stone" and had it published in a church magazine on that basis. I think in retrospect it was probably a capital for a column such as you describe for the prior church that stood on the spot.

I see on Mike Royden's site, he transcribes some information that says the stump of the old Garston cross was "relocated into the churchyard of St. Francis in Earp Street." That's something I wasn't aware of when I used to poke around the historic sites of Liverpool. Do you know if it is still there?

You were at Quarry Bank after me since it hadn't turned comprehensive when I left (Calder Girls was still next door). Mr Pobjoy, who had been Headmaster when John Lennon was a pupil, was still the Head when I attended.

Chris

Okay, Kev has a pic of Garston Village Cross on his Flickr site. Thanks, Kev.

And it looks as if that hacker is back in the chat area. Don't they ever give up??? :disgust:

Thanks for the inspiration, Kev. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Gravestone, St. Michael's Church, Garston

"Here Lieth the Body of Richard Kay
who died the 16th of August 1724"

The death's head and hourglass with wings
chiseled by the stonecarver are filled with
rain and leaves this chill autumn day where
he has lain three hundred years: Mister Kay.

Christopher T. George


http://static.flickr.com/109/296443022_7563f2aa79.jpg

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Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge

Thanks for the inspiration, Kev. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Gravestone, St. Michael's Church, Garston

"Here Lieth the Body of Richard Kay
who died the 16th of August 1724"

The death's head and hourglass with wings
chiseled by the stonecarver are filled with
rain and leaves this chill autumn day where
he has lain three hundred years: Mister Kay.

Christopher T. George

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Fantastic :PDT_Piratz_26:

Thanks, Kev.

Chris

Kev, I also did the walk around the same graveyard not too long ago, very strange place high up and away from the noise on Banks Road.
Only me and a old man who must have being thinking whats the weirdo doing looking graves.
I had been to Allerton taking photos of my family graves, I am not too sure what to do with them, I was thinking of putting them on my website but decided not to. (not too sure if it is the right thing to do, I maybe need to ask family members)
I did not find any family graves there, but to be truthful it would be a difficult task maybe need to see if there are records in the church or somewhere that would help with the task.

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Originally Posted by john

Kev, I also did the walk around the same graveyard not too long ago, very strange place high up and away from the noise on Banks Road.
Only me and a old man who must have being thinking whats the weirdo doing looking graves.
I had been to Allerton taking photos of my family graves, I am not too sure what to do with them, I was thinking of putting them on my website but decided not to. (not too sure if it is the right thing to do, I maybe need to ask family members)
I did not find any family graves there, but to be truthful it would be a difficult task maybe need to see if there are records in the church or somewhere that would help with the task.

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Yes John, it was noisy today as the demolision work opposite was taking place as I stood by the wall. Strangely quiet though as I walked through the graves being careful not to fall down any holes. To think we used to play cricket there in the 80's, sorry :neutral: . I think I'd like to get inside again soon.

Hi John

There is a website for Allerton Cemetery that you might find useful:

http://allertoncemetery.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/

My great grandmother on my mother's side had an unmarked grave in Allerton Cemetery, about which I wrote a poem, "Grandma Potts Had an Unmarked Grave," but I would think even if her grave was unmarked the cemetery probably had a record showing where she was buried.

Chris

Hi CG I have seen this site before,

They do keep records of all graves and would be able to pinpoint the place if you have the details.
I went awhile ago and took some photos for a woman in Wales, she want to know what was there before she made the journey, I went and there was nothing there so took some photos for her so she could see the area.

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Originally Posted by Kev

http://static.flickr.com/116/269209820_a0c5187afe.jpg

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Hi Kev

This building was a Liverpool City Library branch at one time and now apparently is not. Can you confirm? I wonder when it stopped being a library branch? If it is the same building I am thinking of I was held responsible by Mr Philpott, the then head librarian, for nonreturn of some mathematics book, although I was absolutely innocent of the charge.

Chris

Its still a Library and a beautiful one at that. Liverpool Libraries are also One Stop Shops too.

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Originally Posted by Kev

Its still a Library and a beautiful one at that. Liverpool Libraries are also One Stop Shops too.

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Oh, okay, thanks for clarifying, Kev!

Chris

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Originally Posted by Kev

St. Mary's Church, Garston: I havn't been in the grave yard since I was 11 years old, weird experience. I tried looking for the Pirate's Grave I once saw as a kid.

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WHAT? Kevin - you know very well it's St Michael's - what would Mrs Lester say?:eek:

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas. Was Richard Kay a real pirate?:)

Hello Jimmy

If I might answer for Kev, that skull on the tombstone of Richard Kay was standard iconography of the day, as in the following example from the US (then British North America)--

http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gal...10-0222_SM.jpg

-- a skull and crossbones on a headstone in King's Chapel Graveyard in Boston, Massachusetts. Photograph by Verna Bice.

Chris

:) Cheers Chris.

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Originally Posted by jimmy

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas. Was Richard Kay a real pirate?:)

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Fantastic pics!

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Originally Posted by jimmy

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas. Was Richard Kay a real pirate?:)

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Nice one Jimmy:PDT_Piratz_26:

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Originally Posted by jimmy

:PDT_Aliboronz_24: Thanks Kev for the photographs of the Garston docks
and surrounding areas.

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The docks are still full active. Do they deal in coal a lot there now? It used to be containers and timber.

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Originally Posted by sweetpatooti

WHAT? Kevin - you know very well it's St Michael's - what would Mrs Lester say?:eek:

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St. Michael's, St. Michael's, repeating over and over again. Soz about that. Slap my wrists for that one, I was in a hurry.

Kev :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Mrs Lester, is she still in the local area?