Polish community in Liverpool

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Originally Posted by taffy

In talking about the Polish Communities, it's as well to remember we went to war with Germany in 1939 in defence of the Poles.

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And we were in no position to defend Poland.

Poland was no better than Germany at the time. It passed anti-Jewish laws before the Germans, was also a dictatorship with freedom curtailed, and invaded parts of Czechoslovakia, when Hitler went in. Britain had no affinity to Poland. It was the French who sided 100% with Poland and Britain tagged along. It was a case of saying, this is a country too far, not because the UK had any affection towards Poland.

The reality was the French had a defence pact with Poland and as the UK sided with the French we were dragged into it.

The UK had no connection with Eastern Europe, and still doesn't. The UK always turned its back on Europe and faced the open sea. Pre WW2, Poland passed laws forbidding Jews being civil servants. Jews needed permits to enter some towns. The "Times" correspondent in 1937 said "Poland was a nightmare for Jews". Poland was the most anti-Semitic country in Europe, with constant anti-Jew riots. Pogrom is a Polish word. When Poland was officially recognised by the Treaty of Versailles, the British economist, Keynes, said "it is an economic impossibility, whose only industry is Jew-bating".

Between the wars, Poland fought six campaigns against its neighbours and wanted to declare war on Germany in 1934, but the British and French would not join them.

The "Jewish question" was a constant debate in Poland way before it was in Germany. The lot of the Jew between 1919 and 1939 deteriorated in Poland.

In 1939 was little between Poland and Nazi Germany. Britain had no right to side with such a country at the time. It was foolish too. We sided with one dictatorial anti-Semitic nation against another.

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In many ways, the arrival of all the Poles in Liverpool and elsewhere is simply the direct result of those events started in September 1939.

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I doubt it. More to do with economics.

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Originally Posted by macca

Does anyone know when the weekly Polish mass is held? I was in Poland recently and went to mass there, and although I don't speak Polish the language is very beautiful and I thought I'd quite like to hear more masses in Polish. It's very relaxing to hear it, not like some languages which are agitating or annoying to the ear.

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The Polish Mas is the Crypt of the Metropolitan (Catholic) Cathedral every Sunday at 12 noon, followed by food and community activities.

any polish workers in merseyside would be more than wellcome to play handball at liverpoolhandball club, we train at greenbank sports academy tuesday and thursday men/women. you can find out about our club at www.liverpool-handballclub.co.uk

North West running out of Polish workers
Dec 28 2007
by David Higgerson, Liverpool Daily Post

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MERSEYSIDE is facing a potential workforce crisis in the future unless it starts attracting immigrants from countries other than Poland.

A report prepared by economic experts warns that Merseyside employers are relying too heavily on Poles, and says workers from other countries need to be attracted as well.

The report, by the North West Development Agency’s intelligence unit, warns there is only a “finite” number of Poles prepared to move to the UK, and when it is exhausted vacancies may go unfilled.

The NWDA has now called on employers to ensure vacancies appeal to people from a wide variety of countries. It stresses this is particularly important if the “brain-drain” of educated Merseysiders to other parts of the UK continues.

Immigration to Merseyside already appears to be slowing down, with a 1.6% increase between 05/06 and 06/07, compared to 5% for the North West and nearly 8% nationally.

Polish workers made up 39.2% of all National Insurance (NI) registrations in 2006/07 in the region. Any migrant seeking to work legally in the UK has to apply for an NI number.

In London, Poles represented 19.2% of registrations.

A spokesman for the NWDA said: “London is not anywhere near as reliant as the other regions on Polish migration to boost numbers.

“When migration from that country eventually starts to decline, which would be logical as there is an upper limit on the number of Poles who can leave Poland, London will be nowhere nearly as badly affected by this as the other regions.

“The capital attracts people from a large number of countries, while the North West attracts people from a much narrower base of countries.”

The first wave of Polish workers – and those from other Eastern European countries which have recently joined the EU – worked mainly in manufacturing and the building trade, filling posts which employers locally would otherwise have struggled to recruit for.

The spokesman added: “The North West is one of the regions that suffers most from internal outflows. If the region is to boost the size and capability of the workforce, it is essential that the focus is on two fronts, attracting internal and external migrants and keeping more people in the region, particularly young, educated workers.

“There needs to be more focus put on the demand side, trying to create jobs that will ensure migrants, not just semi-skilled but high-skilled workers are attracted to the region.

“Additionally, the region should emphasise its natural advantages, such as the high quality of life and affordable housing.

“Areas such as Preston and Manchester have attracted new migrants thanks to the significant number of offices in the districts. There is now a move towards working in offices, not just as low-level workers such as cleaners, but also as administration workers, as migrants try to realise their full potential and utilise their educated background.”

Experts in Liverpool said the key to attracting new migrants was ensuring they felt able to integrate with the indigenous population.

Ewan Roberts, centre manager at Asylum Link, said: “The problem is the city is not prepared. Libraries and citizens’ advice offices don’t have the infrastructure to deal with people coming from overseas. We would be better to be pro-active.”

A report prepared by the Merseyside Social Inclusion Observatory, based on research conducted in the Kensington area of Liverpool, concluded that the vast majority of migrants – mainly Poles – had taken jobs which otherwise would have been left unfilled.

Another of its studies concluded that the North West is short of 80,000 graduates to fill skilled posts, leaving a £13bn “productivity gap” it believes could be filled by the region’s 100,000 legal immigrants.

Dave McCall, from Migrant Workers North West, said: “We have ended up with lots of migrant workers coming to the country with advanced skills but who have ended up doing low-skilled jobs.

“Migrant workers are bringing a lot of economic benefits to the North West, but we aren’t matching up the skills they have with the shortages that exist. We need to make sure they know that the opportunities to progress are here.”

Source: Liverpool Daily Post

Date for Polish Christmas
Dec 4 2008
by Catherine Jones, Liverpool Echo

MERSEYSIDE residents are invited to enjoy a Polish Christmas.

The Polonia group, which was set up in October to give everyone the chance to enjoy Polish culture and form new friendships with people of different cultural backgrounds, is celebrating the start of the festive season with a Christmas event.

Polonia was set up by charity Yellow House, with support from Liverpool council.

Tomorrow people will have the chance to sample Polish Christmas Eve dishes, find out more about Christmas traditions in Poland and sing traditional Polish Christmas carols.

The Merseyside Polonia Christmas takes place at the Academy of St Francis of Assisi, in Fairfield, at 6.30pm. Details: email info@merseysidepolonia.com or visit www.merseysidepolonia.com

Source: Liverpool Echo

Readers of this thread might be interested in an exhibition and film series taking place now:

International travelling exhibition ?Names Instead of Numbers?

10 February ? 7 March 2009
Tuesday to Saturday, 10 a.m. ? 5 p.m.
Victoria Gallery & Museum
University of Liverpool
Ashton Street, Liverpool
www.liv.ac.uk/vgm/

This exhibition shows a selection of 22 biographies from the Remembrance Book for the Prisoners of the Dachau Concentration Camp and has been displayed in Germany, France, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Austria, and Poland. It reveals some individual ?names? behind the ?numbers? of 200,000 prisoners and more than 32,000 dead in Dachau, and their stories ? Poles, Dutch and Frenchmen, Jews and Christians, political prisoners and ?undesirables?, ?Gypsies? and slave labourers.

To accompany the exhibition, a season of classic documentaries, introduced by staff of the SOCLAS, will be shown every Saturday during the exhibition period (14, 21, 28 February and 7 March).

For details see http://www.liv.ac.uk/soclas/conferences/names.htm

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Traditional Polish Easter planned in Liverpool
Apr 4 2009
by Ben Schofield, Liverpool Echo

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A TRADITIONAL Polish Easter is coming to Liverpool.

Merseyside Polonia is hosting events on Good Friday and Easter Sunday. A Meet Your Neighbours was held at St Francis of Assisi Academy yesterday. Singing group Po Prostu Nowa Biesiada performed Easter songs and there was the chance for people to tuck in to some traditional culinary delights.

On Sunday, the World Museum is hosting an egg-decorating day and arts and crafts displays. Visit www.merseysidepolonia.com

Source: Liverpool Echo

http://www.polishzone.co.uk/web/konkurs
Konkurs
Wygraj bilety na mecz Pucharu Davisa pomiędzy Polską i Anglią, kt?ry odbędzie się w dniach 18-20 września w Liverpoolu.

Mamy do rozdania trzy pary bilet?w.

Odpowiedz tylko na poniższe pytanie:

Gdzie znajduje się ?The All England Lawn Tennis Club", organizator najbardziej na świecie prestiżowych zawod?w w tenisie trawiastym?



?A) Wolverhampton
?B) Wimbledon
?C) Basildon
Odpowiedź wyślij na adres kontakt , podając swoje imię, nazwisko i adres w celu otrzymania bilet?w.

Konkurs trwa do 12 września 2009 roku

Win Tickets for the Davis Cup Match Between Poland and Great Britain 18-20th September in Liverpool.

We have 3 pairs of tickets to give away.

Just answer this question.

In which famous venue is the ?The All England Lawn Tennis Club', the home of the world's most prestigious grass court tennis tournament ?

?A) Wolverhampton
?B) Wimbledon
?C) Basildon
Send you answer by email to contact , including your name and address for mailing the tickets

Closing Date 12th September 2009.


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Hi,

Just wanted to tell you about about a fantastic production; The Glass Mountain Szklana Gora, which shows at Unity on Fri 9 & Sat 10 October at 8pm.

The Glass Mountain tells the story of Olek, Polish baker by day and dreamer by night, who boards a bus for England only to find himself on a much bigger journey than he bargained for.

This exciting international production from leading theatre company Trestle, weaves together the polish myth of The Glass Mountain with contemporary stroies of migration.

Inspired by Eastern European traditions of singing stroies and expressed through original music and physical performance, this is a hopeful and heartfelt tale about what it is to journey into the unknown.

You can read a review of the show here http://www.whatsonstage.com/reviews/...Albans%29.html

Glass Mountain shows at Unity, 1 Hope Place, Liverpool from Fri 9 - Sat 10 October at 8pm. Tickets are ?9 with ?7 concessions. call 0151 709 4988 or click www.unitytheatreliverpool.co.uk to book now!

Have all the Polish folk gone back home ? I don't see as many as I used to and my mates flats are now empty.?

If you have never been to Poland, Sleazyjet goes from Liverpool to Krakow and it is pretty cheap to get there. The city is really nice and well worth a visit. The shops are lovely along with the people. The food is also tremendous as is Polish Vodka.

I notice that a few of the links given on this thread for Polish associatons etc no longer exist. I wonder if this is indicative of the numbers perhaps returning to Poland or is there still a strong community in the city. Does anyone know of any Polish web links for the city?

I've never been to Poland, love to go. I don't rate Polish food though, had it in a restaurant in London. Maybe it just don't travel too well. Had many a good session with Polish vodka. Remember them starting...that's all.

Real Polish food is great. They do a dish that looks like Ravioli (but its not) and they are filled with soft cheese. Gorgeous.

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Originally Posted by underworld

Real Polish food is great. They do a dish that looks like Ravioli (but its not) and they are filled with soft cheese. Gorgeous.

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I've had that, but I'm sure it was Italian. Spose there's lots of similar food though.

That Pablo always thinking of his belly:unibrow:

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

That Pablo always thinking of his belly:unibrow:

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Just love good food. Had it all over the World. One of me main reasons for going on holiday. If it were up to me, I wouldn't go outside the UK anymore. Gotta take me grandson to Disneyland though. Looking forward to that.

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

That Pablo always thinking of his belly:unibrow:

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Is that a new Avatar? Preferred the last one. Made you look sophisticated.

Ha, what am I saying...

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Originally Posted by pablo42

Just love good food. Had it all over the World. One of me main reasons for going on holiday. If it were up to me, I wouldn't go outside the UK anymore. Gotta take me grandson to Disneyland though. Looking forward to that.

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Disneyland or Disneyworld? Happy queueing!

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Originally Posted by underworld

Disneyland or Disneyworld? Happy queueing!

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That stupid one in Florida. Dunno what it's called. Really looking forward to it. Just me and the little fella.

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Originally Posted by pablo42

That stupid one in Florida. Dunno what it's called. Really looking forward to it. Just me and the little fella.

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Sounds great. Don't forget our prezzies:PDT11
Whaddya mean "it made me look sophisticated" ? I think the new one say's it all for todays music scene:PDT11

Polish food I've never tried. I hated the food in Italy too.I'll try anything but I will never taste food better than me ma's. What a cook.:handclap:

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

Polish food I've never tried.

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:rolleyes: http://www.krykiet.com/polish_food.htm :)

Zap, you never liked the food in Italy! Shame on you, reckon they beat the French hands down at cooking, and the French are fantastic.

Pierogi, thats the dish. Lovely jubilee. Thanks Lenka.

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Originally Posted by pablo42

Zap, you never liked the food in Italy! Shame on you, reckon they beat the French hands down at cooking, and the French are fantastic.

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Sorry Pabs but the French eat some ugly food. Italian food...bland !!
As for the Polish....hmm, too much dodgy meat for me. You can't beat a good Indian dish.:PDT_Piratz_26:

And speaking of Frenchness....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQn2HBRACQ
That's me:PDT_Piratz_26:

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

I hated the food in Italy too.I'll try anything but I will never taste food better than me ma's. What a cook.:handclap:

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:eek: your Italian in-laws won't be happy with you :PDT_Xtremez_42:

Italian food is good.


Way off topic here !



Some fresh cooked paella we had last week in Spain.
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and eating it in a nice setting with a mountain view
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We had a Polish Consulate here in Liverpool before WW1. My Grandfather, en route from Lithuania to America, arrived here in Liverpool and went to the Polish Consulate for information. The lovely Polish girl working there, my Grandmother, said that her father had a room available to rent. He didn't make it to America, they married and lived in and around Tatlock Street. There was quite a Polish community around there as my Grandfather used to help run Polish clubs/dancehalls around Vauxhall. So as you may or may not know, the Polish/Eastern European influx started a lot longer ago.

I don't mind Halva :)

I just love Paella.

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Originally Posted by lindylou

:eek: your Italian in-laws won't be happy with you :PDT_Xtremez_42:

Italian food is good.

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Italian food is good...In the bin!!!!
Sod the in-laws,my taste buds are more important:PDT_Piratz_26:

Can I still find Lovely Krakus Blackcurrant jam in L'pool? Matta's no longer sells it and I'm hungry

Sainsbury's, Old Swan, have a Polish food section so you might get your jam there.

thanks for that JMLE. I'm heading along Queens Drive in about 10mins so will pop in. Might even take a slice of bread along. Cheers

Polish food store on Wavertree High st.

You might be able to order some on-line.

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There's a Polish food store on Nantwich Road in Crewe. I'll look out for any more.

if I'm down there, give me a list and I'll pick it up for you.

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Originally Posted by tml

thanks for that JMLE. I'm heading along Queens Drive in about 10mins so will pop in. Might even take a slice of bread along. Cheers

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Well TML, did you manage to get some?:nod:

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Well TML, did you manage to get some?:nod:

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I'm still looking for it wsteve55. Tried the Sainsburys and the shops in Kenny and Wavertee (the couple running the Wav shop are lovely). Looked online and the jam was £2 but the p&p was another £3. I'll keep looking anyhow. Thanks for all the suggestions.