The Central Docks Masterplan

We must be bold and ambitious. We won't get anywhere pus#y-footing around. This is a golden opportunity for Liverpool to finally shake off the negative image many people still have. People will have to take us seriously. We know that Liverpool is unique and far better than alot of other cities, but people from other places don't, we have to make them listen.:)

I might be one of the minority which has some reservations about this scheme. For one, I think it is going to look a little daft when finally completed as we are going to have 50 floor buildings towering above the low density surroundings of Vauxhall Road and Scottie. The site doesn't exactly go very far inland, nor do the buildings gradually fall back into the low rise estates. They just stand out like a sore thumb.

The same goes for Wirral Waters but that's another thread.

Liverpool Water's is a fantastic idea, however, I just have a few concerns about building density and making it look right. Think about it like this. Stand at the top of Great Mersey Street outside of Stanley Bar and look down to the central docks. Around you will be housing of normal proportions running down the hill to the canal. Now imagine the same scene but with 50 story blocks towering over you. I would hate to be in the Eldonian Village!

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Originally Posted by Howie

In Shanghai isn't the older architecture on one side of the river and the modern on the other?

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Yes, the picture above depicts the Bund side of the Huangpu River and the ultra modern architecture faces it on Pudong side of the Pu. Pudong is part of Shanghai every bit as much as the Bund is, Birkenhead is not part of Liverpool.:)

Just a bit of info; The building that resembles the Royal Liver was the Shanghai Customs House and the building that resembles the Port of Liverpool building was the headquarters of the Hong Kong & Shanghai Bank (HSBC) founded by a Scouser, John Swire who commissioned the building and founded the Swire Group which includes, as well as the HSBC, Cathay Pacific Airlines. For a Scouser, approaching Shanghai on the Pu on a misty morning can send shivers up your spine.

AK1: This is a golden opportunity for Liverpool to finally shake off the negative image many people still have.

Only if the designers achieve near-perfect harmony -- otherwise, we risk looking rather silly and people will continue to frown at us.

The power of tall buildings. If Adolf Hitler only knew.

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Well Mr Peel holdings said it all 'i've never had a planning application knocked back yet, i'll invite Liverpool to become my first' - Knowing our council, he might be right but I hope he's wrong. It's all their money, they own the land, they're going to be sympathetic to what's already there and just build on derelict acres where the past use has gone so what have we got to lose but everything to gain.

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Originally Posted by scouserdave

I wish Liverpool's waterfront looked like this:PDT11

http://www.catnip.co.uk/wallpaper/bund800x600.jpg

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That clock towers more lit up than our Liver Building anyway.

Wish our Liver Building was more lit up, It's ****e for night pics otherwise.:Smiliz_Kingz_PDT_13

It was lit up enough when I took this shot:unibrow:

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/liverclock.jpg

It Is at the top of the building but at the bottom of the Liver Building It's not.

I wouldn't mind going up that building on Water St you went up, where do you get In?

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Originally Posted by Max

It Is at the top of the building but at the bottom of the Liver Building It's not.

I wouldn't mind going up that building on Water St you went up, where do you get In?

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You must have visited there on a bad day. It's a bit like the Anglican Cathedral. There were a couple on nights last month when the lights weren't switched on at all.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/liverclock002.jpg

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/liverclock003.jpg

There are no words to describe just how good the Liver Building picture is.:handclap:

SPECTACULAR plans to transform the Mersey waterfront with gleaming skyscrapers have been backed by city leaders. more

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This is a picture of Peels model that was on display when the plans were released to the public,we can only hope this happens.

Picture courtesy od Doug Roberts.

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Here's a superimposed version.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

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Here's where they're taken from if you want to have a browse.:snf (41):
http://www.liverpoolwaters.co.uk/

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Originally Posted by AK1

In alot of ways our waterfront does look like this. Remember, the architect who designed alot of our architecture also designed alot of the buildings in Shanghai. It is important to remember that Liverpool's waterfront was full of victorian architecture until a little thing called WW2 came along and obliterated most of it.:shock:

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I was there last year, and showed my local colleagues some Pier Head pictures and they were amazed at how it looked. They have since been over here and went out of the way to take pics of the Pier Head themselves.

TBH, just by where that picture was taken from was some pretty grotty stock in either disrepair or partial demolition; but Pudong over the water is an amazing sight - would that we can produce anything remotey similar.

Is there still no word as to what to do with the tobacco warehouse?