Planning decision on Liverpool Waters will be delayed until after Unesco inspection

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08-03-2011
Ged

Well the thread was originally going on about how a quango who gives out a certificate saying we have a World Heritage site and who passed the ugly black buildings on Mann Island is now helping prevent (with the aid of an unelected preservation trust one man band who can't see past rightly preserving Georgian stock) a 5.5 billion influx of private money being spent on revitalising a tumbleweed eyesore that nobody wanted to touch for at least 20 years.

Somehow it got onto how some L1 stores are overpriced. Do what I do and don't go in them then and if there's no supply and demand, they will close down, but probably not in your lifetime, just like I never go into Harrods when in London. It doesn't half work but the only problem then is you have to find something else to moan about instead of something else to be proud of. Do you watch Eastenders perhaps Chas ;)

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Thought you were going the pub?

He was until he found you couldn't still get half a bitter, a packet of players and a box of swan vesta and still come out with change from a ten bob note ;)
08-03-2011
wsteve55

"He was until he found you couldn't still get half a bitter, a packet of players and a box of swan vesta and still come out with change from a ten bob note"

:unibrow:
08-03-2011
chasevans

Merseyside rejoice, our destiny's Shangaied,

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/239.$plit/C...A06%3A58%3A613 Peel's development director James Whittaker

Far Eastern investors are snapping up apartments at MediaCityUK in Salford Quays, having invested £4.5m so far.
Following sales visits to Hong Kong in March and the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur in May, Peel Media Living has sold 36 apartments in two residential blocks.
Peel has now committed to trips to Singapore in October and Hong Kong again in November.
Peel's development director James Whittaker said: “It became apparent at last year’s Shanghai Expo that there’s a real demand for UK investment opportunities within the Chinese market.
“The hotels there are booked each weekend by London-based developers selling schemes off-plan, so there was overwhelming evidence that marketing to this cash-rich corner of the world would pay off.
“We also had the benefit of a completed development and the twin attractions of the BBC and Manchester United to a market that loves British brands.
“But it was still a big risk for us. We invested £75,000 in marketing and needed to sell between eight and 10 units to break even.
“We used King Sturge’s office in Hong Kong to co-ordinate, and took the development models out with us, set up shop in a room in a hotel and waited to see what would happen.
“We sold 24 units to 24 different individuals. We achieved £3m worth of sales in three days.
“We went on to Kuala Lumpur where there is a massive Manchester United following and, while we did not do as well as Hong Kong, as the market there is more cautious and conservative, we still sold 12 units in two days.
“Since our return all 36 have completed.”
Peel has offered 12-month rental guarantees or furniture packs and say investors can expect a six per cent annual return on their capital.
Mr Whittaker added: “Chinese investors are very savvy, they want the best return for the least risk and were attracted not just by the fact that prices here are a third of the London equivalent but that they get instant returns.”

Manchester Evening News, July 21

Chas
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08-03-2011
Ged

So what is your point - that we would be welcoming the biggest growing economy to our shores?

Should we only build terraced houses because that's all scousers can afford - we did all that from the 50s to the 90s and the inner city depopulated and it was left a tumbleweed wasteland. Do you know about demographics?

Catering for the top end of the market encourages entrepeneurial types who will open businesses employinglocals. Did Peel not reinvent Cammell lairds or build the new airport terminal? I bet those people in those jobs don't feel shanghai'd. ;)

All the best to you Chas.
08-03-2011
chasevans

A small part taken from the PEEL proposal.
Port of Liverpool
A major deep sea “gateway” port for the region and Great Britain, handling the full
range of deep sea traffics. The only West Coast deep sea container port
which will be able to accommodate post-Panamax vessels handling direct calls by
deep sea ships, as well as transhipment traffic to Ireland and traffic fed from other UK
and Continental deep sea container ports. The major Irish Sea ro-ro port in the North
West region, following the development of a riverside terminal.
A major sustainable distribution hub(waterborne, rail and road freight transport),
serving a national hinterland, with associated warehousing.
It noted that the Port has a shortage of land
within its estate and in the medium to long-term,
land availability is likely to be a key constraint to
development.

Opinions sought.

Chas:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
08-03-2011
az_gila

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Originally Posted by chasevans

...
It noted that the Port has a shortage of land
within its estate and in the medium to long-term,
land availability is likely to be a key constraint to
development.

Opinions sought.

Chas:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Sounds almost like they want to start filling in the River Mersey to create more land...:gnasher:
08-03-2011
chasevans

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Originally Posted by az_gila

Sounds almost like they want to start filling in the River Mersey to create more land...:gnasher:

I can imagine. :D
Nice one Az-gila,
Chas:handclap:
08-04-2011
Ged

Part of the shortage of land comprises the bird sanctuary at Seaforth that Peel has asked if they can relocate.
08-04-2011
wsteve55

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Originally Posted by Ged

Part of the shortage of land comprises the bird sanctuary at Seaforth that Peel has asked if they can relocate.

Which "Peel" were happy to allow to develop,surprisingly succesfully,but always with the provision that,one day,they might have to use the land involved! Access to the sanctuary isn't so easy,these days,and it will be sad to see it go,but it's a matter of priorities!
08-04-2011
Ged

Correct Steve. It's almost as if some people don't want to see the city progress isn't it?
08-04-2011
ItsaZappathing

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Originally Posted by Ged

Part of the shortage of land comprises the bird sanctuary at Seaforth that Peel has asked if they can relocate.

Now that's disgusting. Again, Merseyside will lose more wildlife. :PDT10
08-04-2011
chasevans

PEELed an apple, only to find it was an onion. Ah well, that's progress!

With all due respect, Ged and wsteve 55, I was merely pointing to Peel's lack of transparency in "The Master Plan". 300+ pages that appear to answer Merseyside issues. I think the "real" documents might give a clearer view of Peel's agenda.
http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/ima...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Ged http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/ima...post-right.png
Part of the shortage of land comprises the bird sanctuary at Seaforth that Peel has asked if they can relocate.
Thanks Ged, it's like drawing teeth.:034:

Regards,
Chas:PDT11
08-04-2011
wsteve55

I take your point C, but I don't think "Peel"are quite the monsters you make them out to be,bearing in mind the reason any company, exist's at all,which is to make money! They don't have to "ask" to relocate the sanctuary,they can bulldoze it any time they like,but,they are showing at least some consideration by doing so,even if it is only cosmetic!
I'm glad,that after many years of decline,that anybody, can see the potential to succeed in Liverpool,with the associated benefits,though,of course, that doesn't mean they should have a free rein,by any means!
08-04-2011
Ged

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

Now that's disgusting. Again, Merseyside will lose more wildlife. :PDT10

Why if it's just relocating and it wouldn't be there in the first place but for them, it's on their land.

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That's right Steve and why stringent planning laws, rules and regulations have to be adhered to. Chas, do you have a relative working at Cammell Laird or the airport which due to Peel's takeovers have cemented jobs that WOULD - not could have been lost. How do you feel about that. All without costing you an extra penny on your tax.
08-04-2011
chasevans

PEELing, Steve, but some put it down to the weather. Ask not for whom the bell tolls..................

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Originally Posted by Ged

Why if it's just relocating and it wouldn't be there in the first place but for them, it's on their land.

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That's right Steve and why stringent planning laws, rules and regulations have to be adhered to. Chas,
do you have a relative working at Cammell Laird or the airport which due to Peel's takeovers have cemented jobs that WOULD - not could have been lost. How do you feel about that. All without costing you an extra penny on your tax.

Too many pot herbs in the scouse for my liking.
Chas:angry:

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