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How can anyone afford to buy a house on minimum wage? Having a council house dosen't mean your living off the state, if you working your renting it, at an affordable amount. And thats what we need more off. How can anyone better themselves if there living hand to mouth?
Partially, yes, as the house is subsidised. And I suppose you could say private is as well by tax releif. But with private no cash up front is taken from the tax koffers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shapers
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if you working your renting it, at an affordable amount. And thats what we need more off. How can anyone better themselves if there living hand to mouth?
http://www.saveliverpooldocks.co.uk
Too many of the flats that are getting built in the city centre are luxury ones or for students!
I'd prefer to live in South Liverpool anyway.
Well said Howie lad :handclap: ..F**** the Arty farty type out of towner's who would normally turn their noses up at yer..get some decent properties built for the people of Kenny/Granby Etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by Howie
Totally agree. The price of property is astronomical and the average wage is low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerard
Your only spot on girl..This Council could'nt give a toss about the People of Liverpool with its Scandalous Council Tax/Rates etc,Its more interested in that load of Bollocks Capital of Culture ****e..Whats that gonna bring ordinary people living in on Kenny..Dont say much needed funding please cause yer'll just be adding insult to injury..theyre still waiting for the last lot..No doubt there will be plenty of bashes at the Town Hall though Eh..will me and you get in..Not unless your on 1st name terms with Peter Toyne yer wont..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shapers
yeah that's right.
... and Anfield is in a dire state as well as Kenny. :disgust:
Liverpolitan. I don't think you can compare the previous influx of immigrants who were genuinely escaping poverty such as the Irish famine or Western Europe en route to the New World and who ended up staying here with the current influx from Eastern Europe at all.
Jobs they are seeking are low paid compared to a local but at least double what they'd normally expect back home. They also cram gangloads into private landlord housing.
Trades which are crying out for trainees and apprenticeships, the likes of which there were plenty in the 70s and 80s such as brickies, plasterers, plumbers, engineers, electricians, mechanics need local youngsters being pushed into these not encouraging immigrants to fill these jobs.
The lower pay results in lower taxes and NIC into the coffers which eventually will see the end of a pension pot for todays 40 year old. A lot of the money is sent back 'home' too so doesn't stay in the local economy.
Yes to entrepeneurs and skilled immigrants and the like but i'd hazard a guess they won't be coming from countries whose own economy and class system is below par with the developed world.
The sheer numbers over here are scary.
I can leave the house here in N.London and whatever direction or street I go down absolutely guarantee I'll be hearing Polish/Russian/E.European being spoken in less than 5/6 minutes.
I imagine that's probably true for 80% of the capital.
Wierd situation and there's no-one at the wheel.
What's to be scared of? Why not welcome them? My local shop has beenQuote:
Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes
taken over by a Pole, and a) you now get a proper hello when you go in, unlike the gum-chewing, sulky, innumerate locals who worked in there before b) he
knows the words "thank you" (in English as well!) which the previous English owners did not, c) he sells fresh Polish cakes which come from a Polish bakery -
not some over-packed industrially produced rubbish, d) he puts the change down on the little bowl for Polish customers, and counts it into your hand for
English customers - so it's not as though he's trying to force us to do things some weird and alien way.
Liverpool needs more Poles - tens of
thousands more. Interestingly, I read that Blackpool is trying to entice the East Europeans who come to work there to stay and settle, because they have
found the have talents and skills the economy there needs.
Whilst I have nothing against imported skills, we need to ask why our own are not trained to these levels - where are all the old type apprenticeships, you're not telling me Blackpool or Liverpool don't have people that could and should be doing this. When we're in a full employment situation, only then should we be looking to import skills. I also think that if it's discriminatory to advertise against age, sex or colour, then it certainly should be to bypass locals ahead of immigrants.
Do building firms discriminate against locals?
UP TO 35% of Liverpool’s new city centre apartments are lying empty, as an already flooded property market struggles to attract buyers, housing market experts claimed last night. more
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Liverpool’s strength used to be its population that lived in the city centre, and we need more houses. I do believe we have reached saturation in terms of catering for young professionals and creatives , and now need to look at creating a stable population with its own identity and sense of community.
I,d take two off their hands for a peppercorn rent:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
I think occupancy rates at around 70% is pretty average for city centre developments throughout the country. If people are buying to let or to build up a property portfolio and their investment is going down, I'm assuming they knew the risks. I won't be shedding any tears for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
I agree that more family sized accomodation needs to be built in principle but I'm not sure that families would want to live in the city centre when for the same money or a little bit more they could buy somewhere decent in South Liverpool surrounded by parks and greenery.
I read somewhere that even those people who are currently living in flats in the city centre plan to move out when they start to have a family. Maybe more needs to be done to attract retired people to live in the city centre?
Maybe if there was more there to attract families it would work?