I have great hope for the Lodge Lane, lots of potential there. Thansk for the comments :PDT_Piratz_26:
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I have great hope for the Lodge Lane, lots of potential there. Thansk for the comments :PDT_Piratz_26:
I'd rename It Ghetto Lane.
I'd rename Gramby Street Ghetto Street too.
I survived the 6 hour walk round the "Ancient Toxteth Deer Park" put on by the Liverpool Rangers.
The route we took was Sefton Park Aigburth Vale end, Palm House, Cafe, out near Ullet Road and past the Park Lodge that Kev had a tour round, into Princes Park, out the Belvidere Road end, down to the Ancient Chapel of Toxteth, then to the Turner Home where we got a look inside including the chapel. Then down towards the river via the steep steps at the end of Grafton Street. Lunch at the Brittania then along Riverside Drive through Priory Wood, all the usual St Michaels in the Hamlet stuff including special permission back garden views, back through Priory Wood and across the fields to the river. Then along the prom to Otterspool and through the Otterspool park ending at Jericho Lane.
Every inch of the way John the ranger was pointing stuff out and showing old photos and maps and stuff. The route wasnt the boundary walk I was expecting but covered a lot of ground and did give you an idea of the scale of the "park".
A superb walk. Highly recommended.
It is repeated on Sunday 20th May in case anyone is tempted.
Mike
That's brilliant, thanks for the report. I'd love to go into The Turner Home. Did u take any pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by GingerTheCat
No pics, sorry. I did have my camera as well! The only real time I wanted to snap was in the Turner Home but as it was a working nursing home it didn't seem right, with all the residents wandering about.
Mike
TO CELEBRATE Liverpool’s 800th birthday, people in the Welsh Streets of Liverpool have joined forces with plant enthusiasts to produce a golden display of daffodils and narcissi. more
They can't demolish this fantastic building!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
Is it listed? (I know that doesn't always mean it stays)
This is what is wrong with these areas.
I have lived my life in Liverpool 8, and we need to start preserving what is there rather than throw up cookie cutter houses (which look so bad)
If you want to save it I suggest that you start organising petitions etc RIGHT NOW. In true Liverpool fashion it looks as though it will be left to rot beyond the point of no redemption and then pulled down. I think a law should be passed that forces the owners of such buildings to restore them to their original condition if they are deliberately left to rot. That would make them take better care of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaisyChains
I agree. I drove up it a few weeks ago and it's looking better than it has done for some time. Quite a lot of Somali vibrancy and what looked like (from the car window anyway) some interesting shops serving the needs of local communities. I particularly like all the 'groves' on the right hand side heading towards Edge Hill. I read somewhere that the intention is to make Lodge Lane the centre of this part of L8 and to achieve this retail facilities in the Granby area will not be developed - so its future looks assured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
A £33m plan to transform one of Liverpool’s poorest communities could be on the way.
Housing officials have rewritten three-year-old proposals to build houses and flats in Granby Triangle and refurbish old terraced homes.
But residents are still unhappy with the ideas and want changes.
Granby Triangle consists of four roads, Beaconsfield Street, Cairns Street, Jermyn Street and Ducie Street, off Granby Street, Toxteth.
It was once a thriving neighbourhood, but only 55 out of almost 300 homes are still occupied.
Liverpool council now wants to refurbish 70% of the homes to 21st century standards, with the rest bulldozed and rebuilt. continues....
Another update for Toxteth is on the way over at my flickr site.
Few things to ask in order to aide me with the captions which need to be written...
--> What is the tower block called on Mill Street?...
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5...0428083vd1.jpg
Sorry about the darkness of the image, the Sun was in a less favourable position!
--> Anyone know about the Beaufort Street Board School?
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2...0428092xy0.jpg
-->Whats happening with the Florrie? I thought their funding was secured? Their website isn't giving anything away!
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1...0428145ub1.jpg
Many Thanks in advance for your help and knowledge!
I think the high rise flats in Mill street are just called Mill View ? I have heard of Harrington Board school which was down by the old Higgsons and boasted a very small swimming baths. I've been to Beaufort Street School to vist but I never knew it was a 'board school.'
Beaufort Street Board School was opened in 1875.
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Originally Posted by PhilipG
Thank you for that PhilipG. I can always rely on somebody here to give me the correct info.
Thanks for that everyone! Full credit will be given.
Feel free to comment once all images are uploaded. There are 50 odd to do so I've got me work cut out to get it all up!
All the best
Russ
Russ.Quote:
Originally Posted by wallasey
Just in case you haven't heard of toxteth.net.
Most of the info in there is usually quite accurate.
At one time I was one of the unofficial "proof-readers".
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...0institute.htm
Admittedly, thats where I've been reserching most streets and locations in Toxteth, the last update I did (which concerntrated around Lodge Lane and Albert Park) was written with the aide of Toxteth.net. I have linked the website as it has been so useful!Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
Just out of interest, does anyone have any images of Beaufort Street School before it fell into dis-repair? It would be interesting to see the building in its entirety!
Many thanks
Russ
EDIT: Just seen Dave Woods image from 1995, what a shame ay?
Beaufort Street School:
There was a reunion event held in the mid-1970s...I had a Victorian-born relative attend. I hope that the new school in Upper Essex Street (Beaufort Park) have some old photos.
Here's a cutting I kept from a couple of years ago as it has the school in the background.
c)Liverpool Echo. Photo Martin Birchall
The puns in the article contained such gems as 'udderly crazy' and 'Toxteth is ox-teth'. I passed this area and could smell the cows before I saw them. They were in a large tent at the time so I couldn't photograph them.
Has anyone else heard of a campaign to have Beaufort Street Board Schools demolished. I had a leaflet pushed through the door a while back which mentioned local residents wanting it to be demolished because of the anti-social behaviour it attracts. It mentioned they were having difficulties with the Council over the issue. I think the difficulty may be that it's a LISTED building. It would be a first if a Listed building were to be demolished just because of the behaviour of some kids. I think the leaflet was a Labour Party election leaflet.
It hasn't been mentioned in the latest batch of political cr*p that's come through my door.Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
I though they'd started to demolish it a few years ago.
The local kids will naturally contribute to it becoming a "dangerous building" so complete demolition will probably ensue.
Is it a "Listed" building?
I ask because St Michael's, Matthew Arnold and South Hill Road Schools have all been demolished and if any should have been Listed, it should have been St Michael's.
Sometimes we just assume buildings are Listed, when they are not.
For instance Coleman's Depository isn't.
Demolishing buildings won't cure anti social behavior anyway, it will just move it to somewhere else.
The Heights are MillView and the Florrie is currently being gutted and cleaned out on the inside, bushes, rubbish, roofing timbers, rats and bats. We met with a couple of the activists just at the weekend and are meeting them again on thursday regarding another venture.
Updated my Toxteth Set and still looking at a couple more photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmoly...7594584064630/
Would of done Admiral Grove too but forgot which one was Ringo's but I think I recognised the paint job.
There was a few Beatles fans there too taking pics.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
I've seen reference to Beaufort Street schools being listed...but it was on the internet, so it's not absolute fact. It stated East and West wings listed...(I'll see if I can locate the article)
I think the leaflet I saw mention of demolition plans was a couple of years ago...obviously looking for votes from locals.
After the first round of fires, there were plans for an arts centre. I remember the council saying that if plans weren't carried out within a year or so, then they would have it demolished. It still stands...just.
Funnily enough, I've heard those 1960s style houses (Grafton/Park St area) around there are earmarked for demolition in the next few years. Beaufort Street School may well outlast the local residents.
This looks official...the school is Listed here as grade II
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=3&gl=uk
People are still living In those Welsh houses like the ones In Madryn too the only builders there were road workers.
Bewy, was to become a Film studios centre. All it needed was 24 hour security, but no! the empty heads got in and burned it. Sometimes I despair, it is a beautiful building, with sandstone mullions and red and blue brick features. Done up it would make a lovely hotel, the views are fantastic. Roll on those Euro millions, you are all invited when I open it!!! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Thanks Marky.Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
Goodness me! the caption for the Bewy might be rather long after all thats been said regarding it!
It's been great reading about it and I hope something good happens to it. It would be a shame to see it deteriorate more.
EDIT: Would people rather have me say that the likes of Cockburn Street and Shorefields was in Toxteth or Dingle?
I thought this was going to be good, but it's ruined by the bright road sign.
Well, it's both, but Dingle sounds more accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by wallasey
Streetlamp is right down the middle too - get out there with a hacksaw later on. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
Anyone know the name of this church?
It's on Princes Road. There was no Church Sign.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/4...75f8745f0e.jpg
St Margaret.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max
Putting my streelight cap on, its not that bad! Although, the older CU Concretes would have been nicer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butcher
Btw, thanks for the clarification! I wasn't all that sure and was also not wanting a repeat of the council's bounday sign fiasco!
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Originally Posted by wallasey
I wanted the moon right over the Ancient Chapel, so I wasn't bothered about the lamp post, but the road sign must have been caught by a car's headlights, and it looks awful.
I should have been more definite.
It's Dingle, no doubt, but try telling that to the people in the nice estate with fountains, in the Herculaneum Dock. (They've even wangled an L3 postcode).
The Clarendon Park Development is mostly finished, but this crane has just gone up, so I don't know if we're getting a little 'high-rise' in the Dingle.
I like the red heart.
This site is opposite Somerfield.
I wouldn't say it's a total writeoff (hope you don't mind me having a tinker).Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
You could dull it down:
http://www.tehbox.org/moon1.jpg
Or paint it out entirely:
http://www.tehbox.org/moon2.jpg
They're a bit rough, but you get the idea.
Don't climb over the railings into the graveyard. I tried it once! It's much harder getting out.
Thanks, Butcher.
They're much better.
I'm still only learning about all things digital, and haven't even started to attempt to alter pics.
(I'm still too busy taking them!).
Pardon my ignorance, but is that Photoshop?
I've got Irfanview, but only use it for resizing my pics.
If your camera flashed, then that will have caught the sign possibly. But as they are now relective, the sign might have been caught anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
The very nice local who I was speaking to wasn't keen on those living in the new estate; she's rater looking forward to the prospect of global warming as they will be flooded and she wont!
L3! if that's going a tad too far!
If people are wondering where the flickr update is; I have been buried by revision and college work which is why its had to take a back seat. I also had to go to Tameside yesterday which was actually quite fun!
Toxteth/Dingle should be up in at least 2 days so keep an eye out on my sig!
All the best
Russ