Not another one who thinks Liverpool is apart of Ireland on the English mainland.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippie
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Not another one who thinks Liverpool is apart of Ireland on the English mainland.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippie
Did you mean racist? Very odd as I have Irish blood in me. I must be a strange racist. I don't live in fantasy land and see things as they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomie
It does in descendancy of a minority of the people. We have few direct connections with Ireland as most people who have Irish blood have lost contact with Ireland completely and blended in with others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomie
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Originally Posted by Waterways
Still cant hear you
Must be all that diddly-dee music you go on about in my ears:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
For the rest of us who live on planet earth this could turn into an interesting thread:PDT11 As stated before i think the river walkway could have statues to all of Liverpool culture settlers. Scottie road would be a great place to remember the Irish, as so many lived there in those early years.
P.s Racist ( corrected typo ) need not reply to this thread :)
It's how you tell 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomie
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Nice one Howie, glad to see thats happening
Is there also an Ireland Road where we can remember the Scottish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomie
:rolleyes:
I was going to mention not to forget the Scots too :unibrow:
Lottie where are you ? :)
She's gone to Wales for the day.
She had a nasty experience with a HAGGIS on 25th Jan - Burns night. She was out hunting the little monsters when........................ I will let Lottie tell you what happened. lol
Couple of choice quotes I spotted whilst reading this latest chapter of Waterways' "how to make friends and influence people" thread ...
Tell me, whereabouts in the country *do* you live?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
The above comment suggests it must be Liverpool .....
D@mn those southern scousers ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
At least you don't live anywhere near Surrey :slywink: ... otherwise the validity or your opinion would surely be in question
(by yourself, according to that)
Bit confused as to who the 'us' is in your scenario .....looks like it's pretty lonely on your side of the table at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Don't see how Waterways Is bigoted, he hasn't made any blantant Insults towards any Irish.
He just has views that may sound harsh to some.
So were Galileo, Winston Churchill, Tesla, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
We are not Irish, we are Liverpudlian - haven't you noticed?
They are the ones with the harsh views, they are trying to make out we are something we are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max
I'm not siding with anyone here :PDT_Aliboronz_11: .. but as I have said, why not just be a Scouser and be proud ???
The forum motto is 'Scouse proud' isn't it ?
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Originally Posted by Waterways
You never fail to make me smile.
Care to answer the earlier questions? / Respond to the other quotes I highlighted?
What has that to do with Liverpudlians? It is Irish history. You will be putting up the life story of Terry Wogan next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howie
You want to know where I live. Central London and moving soon. Not to Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
I couldn't agree more Lindy. Those who are obsessed with other cultures.....well maybe they are in the wrong place.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
True, you differed from Gnomie and he accused you of having a problem with the Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
I know Waterways (can I call you 'burnsey'?) .... I am your idle stalker ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Here's you on the good old Toxteth thread :
... it's always a good laugh to read your bigoted, generally pointless views on here when I have a bit of spare time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
big·ot
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
I have no idea why the word bigot is used so often in your direction Burnsey .....
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Originally Posted by Waterways
That degree must have been in Geography. Shucks all these years there was me thinking that the Irish Sea was on the East side of Liverpool and not the West.:handclap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
The thing is this; I am very broadminded about other cultures -and I always have been and always will be. The diversity of this globe is fascinating and there is so much to learn from others. I have, many friends and family from all different walks of life, and I take great interest in learning about other peoples' histories and experiences.
I don't want to be anyone else though, I am satisfied to be a Scouser and I don't need to cling to any other identity - I am quite confident in my Liverpool identity, and I am SO glad I had the fortune of being born in this city.
I am certainly 'Scouseproud' - but that doesn't mean that I will decry any other culture.
..and called me a racist too. I have Irish blood in me. It is laughable. The mentality of 5 year olds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max
They clearly thought the Irish had the greatest influence on the culture of the city. Anyone who reads Liverpool history would know that is clearly not the case, as many in this thread have mentioned about the great Welsh influx and influence, obviously English, as Liverpool is in England, etc.
Look at the old established families of Liverpool. Many came from rural Lancashire backgrounds: Harrison of Harrison Line, the Tates of Tate & Lyle, the Holt family, the Ismail family of the White Star Line from Cumberland, Laird of Cammell Laird from Scotland, etc. George Melly was of Swiss decent.
Like me eh!!! Are you forming a fan club?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Well that counts me out.Quote:
big·ot
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Often? Only by some Irish people on this thread. Oh that must count me in as well as I have some Irish roots too. Who can I call a bigot?Quote:
I have no idea why the word bigot is used so often in your direction Burnsey .....
I go along with Lindylou on this. We are all proud to be Scousers. I was born in Liverpool but brought up in France and Ireland and although I am fluent in French, I think of myself as a Scouser.
I am proud that we have the oldest Chinese settlement in Europe, right here in our city and I rejoice when they celebrate. When the Afro-Caribeans have their carnival, I join right in and I am made welcome. Not as a Frenchman nor an Irishman but as a Sccouser.
I have witnessed some fantastic St. Patrick's day parades on the 17th March in Hawaii, New York, Paris and Lisbon. I really think it would be a great idea to have one here this year.
Maybe Paddy O'Waterways will lead the march, join in and have a bit of a laugh ?:hug:
I am the same as you Lindy. I am a Liverpudlian first and have no need to cling to some Scots or Irish or English background from eons ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
I lived 3 years out of this country and fully appreciate other cultures.
Then why come across as racist to the Irish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Good idea Burnsey :-) .... who wants to join.... hands up .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
<tumbleweed> ........ </tumbleweed>
You can chuck the name at anyone you want Burnsey .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
It's unlike you to ask permission before saying something rude or idiotic though - are you unwell?
I'm off to make fan club badges now.
:PDT_Piratz_26: that's exactly it Steven. I love all that our various cultures have to offer. I have had brilliant times at Caribbean carnival, I go to celebrate Chinese new year, I have good and long standing Argentinian friends who I was still in close contact with during the Falklands war (or Las Malvinas) :unibrow: - and I am still in regular contact with. I had a go at learning Spanish because of them :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven
I have had Asian friends and Irish friends. I have foreign neighbours who I get along with great.
I am not well travelled, but I do love Spain. I love Wales and spend as much time as I can there.
but at the end of it all, I am a Scouser through and through. I never change my allegiance to that fact.
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Originally Posted by Waterways
That is the point I tried to make many posts ago.
I am a Liverpudlian.
End of.
You are correct in doing that Lindylou and thats the way it should be. But Im sure some of the people celebrating their Chinese New Year, Caribbean Carnivals etc where born and bred in Liverpool, but yet want to celebrate their ancestors arrival in Liverpool.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
It takes all kinds of people to make a town, a city, a country.
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Originally Posted by lindylou
Well said :handclap::handclap::handclap: I can't say I have many Argentinian friends (yet) I was in the Falklands and badly hurt. Pensioned off into teaching in 1982, but that's another story.http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r.../icon_slug.gif
I hate to see fights and arguements. I realise that this is an open forum but it's better that people just agree to disagree when nothing is going to change their minds.
In the last analysis, we are all Scousers on this Forum 'COS WE CHOSE to be, if for no other reason and I know that deep down inside, there is a great deal of respect between the members. Wouldn't it be boring if we couldn't have a bit of a 'Nark' (there is no other way of saying that word except in Scouse !) once in a while.:hug:
You never cooked any "Nark" for us Steven on our last visit.
Can I have the recipe?
That's exactly it though Molly :PDT_Aliboronz_11: .. if you read back thru' the posts it was stated that there are so many nationalities and cultures, ie; all the ones we have mentioned - and more. So therefor, why single out one group of people ? Surely everyone has equal rights to be recognised?
In that case, where would it end !! :shock: :) we wouldn't be able to move for statues and plaques ( I'm sayiang that tongue in cheek) :unibrow:
.. and heaven forbid if we missed anyone out :shock:
There are just so many peoples to be remembered. How do you prioritise one over another ?
I agree LindyQuote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
Look at my first post, i never once had a go at any other culture, never once said the Irish are above any other group, I just said I would like to see something to remember the Irish in this city. I like other cultures and have other cultures in my history.
However it seems i was confused, my history books lied. It turns out hardly any came here, and not many people have Irish blood?????????
When idiots come out with crap about a group they do not like then i am entitled to have a go back. and i always will.
I stand by everything i say, and that racist can jump in some waterway for all i care.
and if he answers, then i cant hear him :PDT11
Let it pass now Tony. If you are the man I think you are then you will be the strong one and 'Let it be.':hug:
We all know what floats on Waterways:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
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Originally Posted by Gerry
Hey Gerry ! I am trying to pour oil on troubled Water (ways) here. Shall we let all this pass now ?