Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
How did you get onto the building grounds?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
How did you get onto the building grounds?
http://www.icpuzzles.co.uk/aerial/sl...rosvenor-9.jpg
nhuge huge huge!!!
Landmark building given go-ahead
PLANS
for a building on the Paradise Street development were passed yesterday by the city council.
Grosvenor wants to create a curved apartment block on
Strand Street, ranging in height from five storeys to 17. (cesar pelli)
The glazed building design went before the planning committee in April, but
was revised after advice from English Heritage.
The tower was originally supposed to be 20 storeys high, but was reduced by three because of concerns
over its impact on the World Heritage Site. Two park side terraces have now also been included.
Grosvenor must start work on the scheme within three
years. :celb (23):
More badQuote:
Grosvenor must start work on the scheme within three years
journalism there are meant to have everything finished by 2008.:rolleyes:
Liverpool to get its first ever Hilton Hotel
LIVERPOOL is to get its first ever Hilton Hotel, as part of the £920m regeneration of Paradise Street.
The world-famous group this afternoon
confirmed that it is to open a hotel in a new crescent-shaped block in Canning Place, opposite the Albert Dock. The hotel will be managed by Hilton and will
open in 2008, during the city's year as European Capital of Culture.
Howard Friedman, Hilton's Area President for the UK and Ireland said this
afternoon: "This is Hilton's first hotel in Liverpool, one of the UK's fastest growing and dynamic cities.
"The signing of the agreement marks yet
another significant step forward for Hilton's development throughout the UK and Ireland, and we are delighted to be part of Liverpool's exciting
future."
The hotel, which will feature 216 guest rooms over eight floors, ten Hilton Meetings rooms, a ball room, restaurant and a LivingWell Express,
will be part of Liverpool One - one of the biggest mixed use developments in Europe.
The hotel will be situated on the historic site of the world's
first commercial dock, adjacent to an elevated park that overlooks the River Mersey, one of the development's five individually designed retail and leisure
districts.
Grosvenor's Ed Skeates, commented: "Hilton is the perfect brand to act as the full service hotel provider for Liverpool One, and we
are delighted that the development has been chosen as the location for its first hotel in Liverpool City Centre."
More great news for
PSD.:celb (6):
Well,
the rumours of a Hilton confirmed at last!!
Once again, floors knocked off. Nonsense.
I can't see what difference it makes. If you're standing next to a large building, you can't tell if its got
17 or 170 floors.
If you miles away, you can't see the world heritage area anyway so it doesn't matter.
Its just another bullsh*t excuse to hold
Liverpool back and its wearing thin.
There we go with the negativity again. As you said, it doesn't matter how many floors it has when you are standing nextQuote:
Originally Posted by Harry
to it, therefore it doesn't matter that they have taken a few floors off it, does it! You are contradicting yourself!! Plus not all buildings have to be
tall and I don't see how taking 3 floors off a building is holding Liverpool back. Some of the best buildings in the world are less than 20 storeys.
It's a World class
building by a World class architect it's going to be stunning whatever way you look at it.
I know I am.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
Yes, you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by wallasey
It
was part of the Bluecoat building that came down.
Most of what was demolished was a block built after the last war, which was destroyed by bombing.
However, it does look like some of the older building has gone, as well.
Interesting, that in a 7-page thread, the Bluecoat is only mentioned once.
AK1.
Yes, it does matter that they've knocked floors off because I won't be standing right next to it and I won't be able to see it from where I live
whereas if it was taller I might.
I want to see a proper city skyline, not that of Slough or Surbiton.
Liverpool is not here just to supply Wirral with
a nice view, the rest of us in the city want one too.
I've every right to be negative with the sh*t that we put up with with regeneration in OUR city.
We lucky to be in the position of being able to discuss issues like this. I
remember growing up with nothin but waste land here and there. We just accepted it all as that was the way it is/was. How far we have come eh? :)
I'm sure this tall building thingy is related to penis envy.
Cracking photie Kev!:eek:
Here's a reminder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
All it says on the back of this photo is "Seel Street, 1960", so I can't credit the unknown photographer.
But I
can name all the cars, except for the one on the left of the Ford Popular.
Fantastic photos Phil.:PDT_Piratz_26:
I love old photos like that. Anyone got any more of the Seel Street area from that era?
SoQuote:
Originally Posted by Harry
what you are saying is that everyone in Liverpool should be able to see these buildings which in turn will make it great. What a load of S--t. Firstly alot
of people won't want to see a really tall building from their house, secondly, incase you didn't know, Liverpool is built on a hill therefore people living
in areas such as west derby and croxteth will never be able to see any tall building in the city centre and finally, just because a building is tall doesn't
mean it is great, for example, the World Trade Center buildings where tall but visualy unimpressive and poorly built.
On these skyscraper sites the loonies there drool on about how tall this is and that is, and what aQuote:
Originally Posted by AK1
skyline. Paris has few talls, yet what a city!!!
Croydon has a number of talls in a cluster - not one is of any merit at all. The same with most of
Birmingham and Manchester. Birmingham has one iconic building of any type and Manchester none. Most of the talls are from identikit skyscraper boxes. Very
third world
People in a city see it from the ground and what is offered to them on the ground.
Tall buildings have their place. They have to be
quality as they are so prominent.
...true enough. Think Rome, think Berlin. Though, to be fair, in the Paris example the La Defense district is visually at least a highly impressive counterpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
As for talls in general, I think we're conditioned to hope that someone is going to recreate the iconic clusters and buildings of Manhatten..It would be nice, of course but economics are different now, 'design' is subserviant to function and 'function' in the context of creating an office blocks just aint that spectacular. And we're not washing around in billions of dollars like Hong Kong or Dubai.
Still, I get as excited about this crap as anyone else.
When they see it, most people say: Wow!
TRENDY retailer American Apparel and noodle bar Wagamama are coming to Liverpool.
The latest signings to the £900m Paradise Street project also include Gourmet Burger Kitchen and Strada.
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/l...name_page.html
It is an immediately pre WW2 or '46/7 Austin. They used the same body for the Austin 10 and 12 so it could be either.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
Emva Cream. I haven't heard of that for ages. Dubonnet was pushed a lot in those days. As was Martini. Martini is not advertised as much these days, but still around a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by shytalk
I can't stand places like hong kong and dubai. They are completely false and completely unfair places. The money is concentrated in the centres and the suburbs are full of third world poverty. It is the same with shanghai. Other countries including ourselves could do this but we have true democracies with morals and very little corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes
Thank you, Shytalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by shytalk
I also have to admit that I'm not sure what your car is (but I'm going to blame it on the size of the avatar. :) )
Hows about a Yo! Scouse bar selling scouse by the bucketload :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
That pic was taken with a box camera about 1956, I found it recently, cracked faded and stained, a friend of my wifes restored it. The car was my first one, I was 17 in the pic. It was a 1937 Ford Y model. It was taken in Maryland St. which is parallel to Hardman St. I worked for Blakes the Ford main dealer at that time.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...elbyKerma2.jpg
Blakes in Hardman Street is a pub now.Quote:
Originally Posted by shytalk
Likewise their premises in Rodney Street.
I was a car spotter in the late 1950s and 1960s.
I still have my Observer Books of Automobiles.
The Ford Consul, based on the Ford Thunderbird, was my favourite car.
The Zodiac was a bit too flashy, I thought, but the same bodyshell.
They didn't have premises in Rodney St., do you mean the'Safety Lane' depot that fronted onto Brownlow Hill?, That was a huge repair and storage shop named for the lane that ran through the middle of it.
I'm sorry about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by shytalk
I meant Hope Street, next door to the Philharmonic Pub.
Was that the same premises as Hardman Street?
The best two 1960s Liverpool piccie websites are Brian's http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/brian/index.html and Liz's http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/...os/archive.htm:PDT_Piratz_26:Quote:
Originally Posted by snappel
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/292602100/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/113/292602100_726ae20bfa_o.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="PB081314" /></a>
http://static.flickr.com/113/292602100_726ae20bfa_o.jpg
I've been trying to post three pics, but I'm fed up not having any luck.
Please follow this link where all will be revealed. :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/292602100/
Yes, the workshops were at the back of the bulding and in the 1st floor and the paint/body shop was on the top floor. The entrance you mean was the reception and lubrication bay. A company called 'White Cable' occupied 2nd and 3rd floors, they were wholesale paper dealersQuote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
Does that Herberts look better in real-life Phil?
I seem to remember the artists impressions giving the building rather better proportions than are apparent from the photo. The photo makes the building's design features seem a bit half-arsed.
I'm not keen on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes
It is gimmicky and pretty bulky (and I think pretty is as good a work as any).
And the gold just looks like flimsy aluminium.
But I do like the BBC Merseyside building.
Herbert's as usual looks tacky.:PDT_Xtremez_12:
http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/7...80cd489ws3.jpg
Liverpool 1 is going to do so much towards changing people's perseptions towards this city.
It is also in the right location right near the dock water spaces, bringing the centre of the city nearer and maybe onto the water spaces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
That's definitely the appeal of it for me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
we can't let it all just stop at the city centre/docks though can we?
The reinvention of Liverpool is rightfully seen as a top-down process i.e.
Phase 1: Bulk out the city centre connecting it to a bulked out waterfront.
This is the single most economic driver to provide jobs, staunch the depopulation etc etc. Hopefully we can put a tick against that one. I for one can't wait to see the plans for the Central Docks and the Baltic.
NEXT however has to be a Phase 2 (made possble by the success of Phase 1), and that is to reignite the Districts, alleviate this ring of poverty which surrounds the centre and mars all the city centre approaches. So:
Phase 2: Great Howie St, Scottie, London Rd, Wavertree Rd, Smithdown/Parly, Prinnie Avenue, Parky and the districts Vauxhall, Everton, Kennie, Tocky, Dingle..all become enriched, reinvigorated, repopulated by the economic spur provided by the success of Phase1, and these districts become a kind of Greater City Centre each with their own separate and distinct thriving centres of activity and attractions.
Again we can put a provisional tick against the fact that some of this is already being ennacted ie New Anfield proposed regeneration of that area and the Edge Lane/Kennie redevelopement.
.................................................. ..................................................
We're at the start of a very exciting journey. We are in effect attempting to 'build' a new city in a way. It's on that scale. As such it's only when we see those changes happening in Phase 2 (and then beyond) can we really say that we were successful or not.
As far as the actual welfare of the people of this city is concerned Phase 2 is the real objective.