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Hi
I am looking for the marriage of George Phillips b: 1866 Swansea, Wales, to Elizabeth Webster b:1876 Salford area, according to the 1911 census they had been married for 14 years which puts it at about 1897.
I have checked all the online BMD's but still have not been able to find them. Our family knows very little. Their first two children were born in the Salford area, they then moved to Bridgewater street Liverpool (1911 Census) then by 1915 they were living at 47 Kitchen street liverpool. We do not know the names of either George or Elizabeths parents, thus why we need the marriage cert.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Kindest regards
Joanne
Hi Joanne, as you say Salford is your best bet for marriages. I've just looked into The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers, who recommend the following:
Salford Area.
Christ Church - 1831-1963 [deposited registers].
St. Philip - 1813-1935
St. Stephen - 1794-1956
Sacred Trinity - 1709- 1887
All are held at Manchester Archives and Local Studies, Central Library, St Peter's Square, Manchester.
If you've been looking online using only IGI [LDS] the latest record for any of the churches listed here is 1865.
Manchester library should have the target years you're looking for.
I hope that helps?
Daz
Hi there to all,
I have be tracing my family tree, and I was wondering if I could see Liverpool's 1911 census?
I belong to Ancestry's.com & UK, and I have found some factors of my family's. But still need further help with this wonderful information!!
If anyone knows any information I would be so pleased to hear from you.
Her mother was called Mary Campbell, her husband Edward Whittaker. I found info 1901 census they lived at 1 Bidden St Liverpool
My mother name maiden name was Whittaker Elizabeth B: 19 Oct 1919. During the war:- I think my mum use to work in Crawford s & Tate and (Lynes) sugar factory, worked in an armory doing the bullets etc.
Some of my Mum's sister's and brother's can not recall all there names:- Mary use to work at St Johns Market and I think her married name was Smithwick I think she had 4 children one daughter called Marie and Richard.
Alfie, Johnny?, Sarah who died young?, Rosa worked at the Odean, Peggy
My father name was Alan Guthrie Lawson B: 20 July 1919 in Birkenhead. They got married in 1942. I am unable to recall what my father did during the war days! They had four children:
Alan B 1945 - Richard B 1947 - Margaret (Me) B 1948 - Sandra B 1951
They had a big family and which I do not have all the facts yet. But I am trying to trace my Peggy Born in Liverpool, and William Radcliffe Born in Isle Of Man, and they lived there too. He worked on the Trams in Laxey, and I think Peggy worked in the shop at the Lacey wheel.
My fathers:-
His mother and father was called Robert Lawson and his wife my gran Margaret Elizabeth Jarman M: 1918. They only had one Son. My husband died young? she was a widower for a long time. She use to work at the Liver building doing the Taxes?
I look forward in hearing from you with any news you may have
Best regards
Maggie Russell (Lawson)
Speaking of office record look up, was great to recall all the photos, activities and all the programs we have. But believe sometime hurting to my part because you still remember the memories and when you boss depressed with your work. But yeahh, it's really funny. So what i did i put that in my desktop all the office record that i have and thank to this site, that my file have been protected. www.paretologic.com.
Hi,
I am new to the site being introduced to it via a book by Mike Royden (Tracing your Liverpool Ancesters). I have been researching my family tree using Ancestry & Find my Past for about a year now and have uncovered quite a lot of information about the family as well as finding distant relatives in Australia and Canada as well as links with Belgium which is why I write.
I saw that you offered to look up records at the records office in Liverpool - I am sorry I can't return the favour as I now live in Norfolk having moved here over 20 years ago from Liverpool, and my visits "home" now are few. So I understand if you cant help me but just in case...
We have the name Vanduyfhuys in our family a most unusual name I feel for Liverpool - anyway here is what I think we now know:
George Charles Vanduyfhuys born 1830 (we think in Belgium) married a Frances Watson Wilson 4 Sept 1853 occupation given as Mariner. I have a copy of the marriage certificate that confirms these details. George then dies (we think) as I find a record of his death in the Toxteth Park Cemetery age 27 years, records show that he was a ships steward and he died in the Southern hospital. Would be great if this could be confirmed and also any other information relating to his death next of kin, cause ofd death etc.. It would appear that 2 children were born George Charles 1854 (however spelling of surname is Vanduyphays) and a another boy Charles Vanduyfhuys in 1857 - there is also a death entry in 1857 for a Charles Vanduyfhuys. Again any information regarding death details would be great.
After the fathers death things are a little vaugue - I have what I think are 2 entries for Frances - however with the strange spelling of her name I feel it has been spelt in so many ways on the 1861 census I do find her with her lst son in Toxteth but name is Van Davis, I then find her again in Toxteth with son and this time name is Van Davies. After that I can find no records of either Frances or her son and I assume she may have remarried or died. As for her son I think he must have adopted the name Davis and and is therefore quite impossible to trace. The link in the family also includes a daughter of Frances who married into what I think was a prominent family the Barton Redfern's - Sailmakers. Emma Elizabeth states her name as Vandives on her marriage certificare and the name of her father links with above. However Emma always stated she was born in 1850 so this would have been prior to her mothers marriage. I assumed therefore she was maybe not the daughter of who she thinks was her father. For the record I can find no trace of a Emma Elizabeth Vanduyfhuys on record so the search for that one goes on....
I do hope if you have time you will be able to fill some of the gaps - please let me know if you need any further information. Many thanks.
Georges death certificate may hold some clues as to who was present. Surname spelling differentials come up all the time on census records as names could be written down as they were heard if the person was not literate and had to verbally tell the recorder.
Hi Ged,
Yes came across the name spelling quite a lot as we have a few "strange" names to deal with in the family but it does make things more interesting. Hoping that inforamtion from the death cert will help me move over the brick wall. Thanks for reply.
Spent another 3 hours this morning in the temporary archives building of the LRO getting another 316 photos from largely unseen files, some of which I will post up. They were mainly for people who have asked me via my site on email and on other forums. They include interior shots of the Customs House air raid damage as well as churches and street scenes.
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I now have a complete list of the hundreds of street files available to view at the LRO so if anyone is after a particular street just let me know but I do have my next two visits boxes off already so it'll be some time in April for any new batch.
Hi Ged
I have got 3 pics of Tintern Street Kirkdale
but there all on the one side of the street,,,i dont know if you remember springy
he got them for for me a year or so ago,,,and they are great
It would be great to see some of the other side...as my Ninny and Grandad lived there
i have been told at the top of Tintrern Street and walton rd was Epstiens,,but as a kid i didnt know any different
Cheers
Bill,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Hiya Billy, i'm sure we've spoken before about Tintern St, yes I do remember Springy, Ken Roberts, great bloke.
I have 5 pics of Tintern St.
One showing a shop called Traders on the corner.
One showing a row of houses with a bombed site waste ground to their left
One showing a row of houses what appear to be facing those mentioned above
One showing the Tintern Abbey pub
One with a row of houses and a car, reg No ending 978F.
I assume there'll be 2 out of these 5 you haven't got then, let me know which ones and I'll post them up for you.
Cheers,
Ged.
just checked Ged
i have got all them ones
that was our old house on the corner with the Morris ouside
be nice to see some of the other side
me nins was in the middle opposite the oller
and i am sure Epsteins was at the of tintern and walton rd
Bill
Hi
ive just came across your post online,and was wondering if you could help me at all? Iam currently helping my father locate his biological father (my grandfather) and am struggling to find anything!!
My email address is shulita1@hotmail.com
i would look forward to hearing from you!
Thank you for your time
annlouise
Hi Ged, do you know if they have anything on Durrington Bank and Pavely bank flats?
A google of Durrington Bank Liverpool, returns nothing, like it never existed!
Cheers, Mugsy.
By coincidence, I just received 3 photos of Pavely Bank flats, yet to go onto my site, taken in 1982 near the end of their life. Supplied by a Mark Glover, do you know him?
Hi Ged No, I don't know him. (Yet!)
Those flats must have come down in 83 or 84. I remember me n me mate bunkin off school at Netherley comp, and making a raft from an old door, to go through an old flooded subway!
Got a nail through me foot that day!
I love old picks of stuff like that.
Your Piczo site has gotta be one of the most thourough pic sites of Liverpool, but you never got on the 79 to Belle Vale!
I love your old pics of St Johns, and down past what is now Clayton Square.
Used to go with me Uncle, to pick me Auntie up on a Saturday. She worked in OwenOwen. You'd drive in to church st, and turn ritgh past where the phone shops are now, then park up. Where the stairs are now, that used to be a steep road upto the ABC.
Used to park up by OO's and take the p**s out of the Echo guy. Everytime he shotued Echo, me n me cousin would echo it. I bet he wanted to give us a slap!!!!
Thanks for the comments about my site Mugsy, let's see what I can find for you.
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All from the LRO showing the flats around Brittage Brow and their demolition in 1982.
More from a private collection to follow.
Thanks for those Ged. The top one I have marked in my favourites in Flickr. I have just saved a copy from your link though!
In the foreground, you can just make out where the kids playground was. I remember they had 2 rockets in there! A swing type & a climbing frame! I remember we would stop there on our way home from the Netherley Show, with yet another goldfish each!
Brother Ged, I must have mucked up an attempt to p.m. you re your reply to my recent request for you to do the honours at the record office. If my messages miraculously got to their intended destination, please disregard this!, if not,the images I asked about were all of Tunnel Rd, Edge Hill.
Once again, thanks.
i travelled to liverpool record office last year (i live in leics) to look up john sephton born 1819 and found one with mother elizabeth sephton (spinster) however i cannot find her maiden name and do not know where to go from here - i have tried to look for elizabeth sephtons around 20-30 yrs before john was born to no avail, would there be a vestry book with this in? he was baptised in st peters liverpool, i found a chap called mr h peet wrote out all the vestry books in liverpool but do not know if this would be in the record office? if anyone visits the record office could they ask for me, i would be very grateful, with thanks.
If Elizabeth Sephton was a spinster then that is her maiden name they are one and the same, hope you find what you are looking for
Hi Gnomie.
I would like a look up if you have time, I'm in Belfast and can do you a reciprocal search here if you need one. I'm looking for the details of a burial for my great grandmother Fanny Harvey, Died 28th May 1873 while living at 48 Porter street. She was married in St. Augustine's RC church that was in Great Howard Street.to my Great grandfather James Harvey July 1870, she delivered twins in 1871 and seemingly went down hill since the births. James wasted no time and Married about 1874 to Elizabeth Dixon they then moved to Dublin. Any info on this second marriage which was probably C.O.E this time would also be welcome, look forward to hearing your thoughts either on the forum or as a PM. Regards Belfast beau.
Hi, I would also like a look up if you have time.
Mary Jane Howard b 1848/9 Liverpool. Her birth is not on Free BMD. Her baptism in not on Lancs On line parish Clerk or IGI. Her father was Richard Howard, Mother Elizabeth Howard (Nee Cowley). The baptisms for St Peter's for late 1848 and 1949 are not on Lancs OPC yet.
If it is not St peter's then they lived in Gascoyne st may be a catholic church or one in Vauxhall??
If any one has any ideas please let me know. We ahve been looking for her birth for years.
Thanks
Hi Lynn,
I found no record for Mary Jane, but I did find what I think is a record for her
brother George:
Name: George Howard
Birth Date: abt 1842
Baptism Date: 11 Jul 1842
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's Name: Richard Howard
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Howard
This family lived on Gascoyne St, Richard's occupation is laborer.
If you'd like the original baptismal page, please pm me with your email address
(new here and not sure if posting the page is acceptable and not sure if you'd
want it posted).
There's what seems to be a well sourced family tree on Ancestry for Mary Jane.
By 1861, her Mother Elizabeth has remarried to Maddison, in 1865 MJH marries
a Harrison in St Peter's Church, it has details of her death and burial and probate.
I don't know how much of this you already know or have, but let me know what
you're interested in.
LT
Thanks, I have all that info, but not the original baptism sheet for George.
Mary Jane was my Gt Grandmother - married a Richard Harrison,(1 Jan 1865 St Peter's Liverpool), but up until then it was as though she hadn't existed. No birth reg for her or her sisters Sarah Ellen 1847and Margaret 1851, no baptism nothing until her marriage . That is why I was wondering if it was at the LRO. (She is on the 1851 census +1861)
Thanks again and I will send you the e mail address.