Heard from my brother in Moreton this morning and he informed me that the Alex,is up for sale,used to drink in there1960s and early seventies , the landlords name was John and his wifes name was Margaret as i remember
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Heard from my brother in Moreton this morning and he informed me that the Alex,is up for sale,used to drink in there1960s and early seventies , the landlords name was John and his wifes name was Margaret as i remember
I don't recall the name of the Landlord only that in the back room you got waited on when you pushed a bell. Popular with courting couples :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Yer mate wasn't Alex Stanley was it? I remember a lad by that name .Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
Yes it was Alex his dad was a fireman at the station I think he did a bit of boxing once. He was a good lad and we had some laughs.
Thinking about it It might have been Jimmy Stanley who I knocked about with as his nickname was Stan I recall he had a brother.:PDT10
Did you know Brian Shannon?
Interesting postcard for sale on E Bay,
LIVERPOOL-GARSTON-WESLEYAN CHAPEL AND SCHOOLS on eBay, also England, Topographical British, Postcards, Collectables (end time 28-Dec-08 20:01:22 GMT)
showing Garston Wesleyan Chapel and Schools, produced for J.W. Dyble in the village. Who remembers Dybles with all the second hand adverts in the window?
I don't recall a Shannon Bills but it is all so long ago. I knew a few lads from under the Bridge .
i WENT TO HOLY TRINITYS ON THE CINDER PATH AND USED TO PLAY IN THE MATCH WOSKSQuote:
Originally Posted by BillS
a topic of conversation recently in the Mariners pub...there was 10 on one side and 11 on the other,and yet the size of each side of the close was exactly the same..thats how the topic came up......my dad lived in No 10..at this conversation there were also 3 other residents of Clarence Grove...I live in Garston and have noticed a couple of little errors in some peoples postings ..I don`t want to appear a smart ar*e but if you would like me in the future to correct any little faults ,let me know......my wife was born in 2c Speke Rd Gardens...(.her mum would be 77 now and would have known you Norm) and I`m from Bennett St....if I can help anyone in any way don`t hesitate to post or PM me..Quote:
Originally Posted by Twink
...Hello Tina love....nice to see you on this site...keep in touch..lol.regards...allan:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Quote:(......my wife was born in 2c Speke Rd Gardens...(.her mum would be 77 now and would have known you Norm)
Hi 'Fifty Five' I think this was for me! Thanks, I can't remember all the names of the people who lived in 'our square'!! but i'm sure I would have known your wife and her family. We lived on opposite block No 14a. cheers:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
I have just spent "hours" reading through all this thread !!....I am originally from the Dingle/Toxteth but spent many hours in Garston I worked in the old LSB ( Liverpool Savings Bank/ TSB in The Village, had many trips to the hospital, a member of The Vic, went to The Bobbins (happy days !), and the Woodcutters Club and attended Heald Street Hall for lots of weddings and 21st parties and indeed had mine there !.
Under the bridge seemed like another world to me, and I enjoyed reading all the comments etc about the area. I was sad that the Garston Hotel had been demolished it was the first pub I was ever drunk in !, Christmas Eve 1973 finished work in the Bank and got legless but cheerful ! , we had lots of "stay behinds" in The Red Lion, Palatine and the Allerton Hotel before nipping to The Cheshire Lines and the Squires Club in Woolton.
I have recently watched Lilies and all the references to "under the bridge" made me very nostalgic !.
Went down to shoreline recently and looks like there demolishing that old ship yard and ship.
Will have to get pics before It goes completely.
The top of the boat Is one one side of the ship and the grounds dug up quite a bit.
Glad I got wellies for that shoreline, even with them It's hard to walk In the mud.
just found this forum by total accident. reading through this thread brought back an unbelievable flood of memories! i was born and raised in garston - left in my late teens. i lived "under the bridge" mainly around window lane area - canterbury street etc. went to school at holy trinity rc on banks road. was extremely sad to read about all the closures etc - especially of places like banks house which kept us off the streets for many a game of footy and the like. here are some of my other favorites:
garston adventure playground (aka "the venny")
the parks - "top park", "bottom park" (king st.)
the gasworks (never forget the day one was "demolished")
garston allotments (the ones down by blackburn st - used to sit and watch my dad for hours)
the shore "walk" (first field/second field/third field....)
the old airport - epsecially when concord visited - or the day the pope came
the bryant/may matchworks fields - was our own little version of wembley stadium
the tennaments! ("tennies")
i can honestly say altho we didnt have literally 2 pennies to rub together my childhood couldnt have been happier. ive certainly been around a bit in my life since then - and now live across the ocean in the usa..anyway im pretty sure my mum still has a box of great old garston pictures.. i will be sure to try and get a copy next time i'm home and scan and share them. if anyone has any older garston pics please let me know.
Hi Lee,
Welcome aboard mate. I'm still in Garston and have been here all my life. Seing as though you are 33, our paths probably crossed. We often played footy on the dodgy bit of astro turf under the bridge.
I went to 'c of e' and often played around the tennies too.
Can't wait to see the old pics :PDT11
Kev
The Garston Historical Society has lots of publications with photos about Garston for sale. When you're next over, perhaps you'd care to have a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by lee
Kev, whereabouts are you? I get home -or try at least annualy. My mum now lives in Allerton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
If you went to C of E we certainly did cross at some point - perhaps even in what i remember one of the most memorable footy games ive played in. I went to Holy Trinity - we took a trip out to C of E for a game - it finished 3-3 and was a real barnstormer. The main reason i remember it was that i missed an absolute sitter in the last minute of the game - i think i've never forgiven myself to this day. I believe i was 10 or 11..putting the year around 1985/1986
Also if you went to C of E - let me also say - THAT PITCH WAS A DISGRACE! :) Seriously i remember it being one of the worst id ever played on...it felt like the pitch wasnt level - and raised and lowered as you ran on it - it was like playing on an allotment! I also remember playing on there in a kickabout game with some lads - and the goalposts collapsed after being hit and nearly took out the young goalie! I also played for the King st Vaults team for a while - down on the "astro turf" (aka concrete) down by the docks. One of my strongest memories was scoring a winning pen - then legging it off the field as the other team threaten to give us a good beating if we won - i think i was still running by the time i hit St Marys road.
Great memories. Glad to see what you are doing to keep them alive-from doing searches seems like Garston these days has a pretty bad rep and certainly under the bridge seems to have taken the worst of it..shame really because the community spirit we had down there is still unmatched everywhere ive been around the globe since. Keep up the great work.
Lee.
"And a welcome from me to, Lee, another Garston Lad on the Forum!!
Cheers, :PDT_Aliboronz_24: Hope the snow is'nt bothering you too much at present!!!:PDT_Aliboronz_11:
Some may be aware that there are proposals to build a waste recycling plant on spare ground on the Garston Docks site. The initial plans created much oppostion with 5500 signatures petition being raised. These plans have now been withdrawn and new ones submitted. These are for a plant half the size and without the huge anaerobic digester tanks.
The plant is sited close to two new large property devlopments and will no doubt blight any further sales and development. A new petition against the new plans is now required. So please sign the on line version if you feel this project will affect you:
http://www.notothelorries.com/
Attached are a few photos of the exhibition at the Garston Reading Rooms
Just signed.
Interestingly, it seems that Jack Allen Holdings do not have a contract with Mersey Waste Disposal Authority to process Liverpool's rubbish. Whose rubbish will they then process at the Garston Plant?
See
http://paulakeaveney.blogspot.com/20...s-garston.html
Any upcoming meetings about this Proposed Waste Recycling Plant?
Not that I'm aware of but the new petition needs signing, see web version hereQuote:
Originally Posted by A.D.W
http://www.notothelorries.com/
After my recent trip to Liverpool I have been thinking about issues that I feel are of concern. Something came to my attention about life under the bridge these days. It seems that homes, and even new houses still exist under the bridge yet the community has little or no leisure venues. The community I feel needs a few places to go in the area. A nice big Wetherspoons perhaps, a sports centre or community hall for bingo and dancing. And why not? I walked down Window Lane and I was shocked by the decline not even a shop. As a lad I was always aware that under the bridge was a very tight knit community. However I remember Window Lane as a place you could buy things without having to go to the village and you could certainly have a pint there. Surely with the new developments and regeneration in the area the social life of the community should be catered for. And yes my sister in law is the councilor for the area. However it is people power that makes pressure. As the area is developed it would be nice to think that private capital could be used to provide leisure and shopping facilities in the area. And better street lighting.
Being part of Garston, it has these things despite them being the other side of The Bridge, maybe its that barrier of the bridge.
Under the bridge mostly has a pub on King St and and one newsagent on Banks Rd. The Cafes are on Blackburne street and only dock workers would use them.
Does need a community centre or something simular.
The boat on the shoreline is smashed up now to visit too. :cry:
There's Garston Urban Village Hall, plus the Village itself.
I like village area best, i just like village vibes. The roads are busy round the village area though, always on my driving lessons up there.
Well I don?t live in the area anymore so I can only work on my past experience. My past experience tells me that discrimination against that part of Garston has always been around. The village is beyond any doubt the focus area because of the demographic factor. Having said that it seems unreasonable to build new homes and insist on historic sanctions against the community. Even if you don?t want to have a pint under the bridge yourself people who live there might. It seems to me that attitudes about where you come from prevent helping to change that immediate environment. You could apply the same reasoning to parts of Speke and brush of social policy change on the basis of ?Oh well it has always been like that anyway? The present reasoning seems to be let Bryant and May look neat and industrious with small office spaces and business units. So that people going to the Airport feel the feel good factor. What about the folk who live behind in one of the oldest communities in Liverpool are we hiding them? I know Doreen cares but Doreen can not do everything on her own. Entrenched attitudes have to change about the area. They are now building new homes. Will the new dwellers be labeled as them from under the bridge? As a sociologist I know the facts don?t speak for themselves it is the interpretations of facts that matter. When Garston was doing alright economically they did have places to go like the Blue and the Rag so why doesn?t the community be empowered to reinvent itself? Their perfectly capable. I remember the Woodcutters as a lad and the joy they brought to children in the Garston area. Also the pram race. Another misconception about under the bridge is that the people are hostile. That?s not true. Historic neglect has made them weary is more to the point.
Re: 'Life under the bridge'
Quote:-"After my recent trip to Liverpool I have been thinking about issues that I feel are of concern. Something came to my attention about life under the bridge these days. It seems that homes, and even new houses still exist under the bridge yet the community has little or no leisure venues. The community I feel needs a few places to go in the area." unquote:
" I totally agree Paddy, the community should have more facilities for recreation and enjoyment! But it never did have!! you would have to go back pre-war! to the time when the old Jubilee Institute in King St was going!! and there was'nt much more than this! the area was always over loaded with pubs, and this was all that was needed, don't forget, in those early days pubs were used by people as a extension of their own homes, 'The Parlours' & the "Snug's was their entertainment area's. Those wanting a 'night out' would prefare to travel to the 'Village' The Wintergardens, the Co-Op Hall, Masonic Hall etc for dancing, and the Empire and Lyceum cinema's of course for the movies " I remember it all so well!! Cheers:PDT_Aliboronz_11:
I agree with a lot of what you have to say Paddy but the closure of pubs in Garston and elsewhere is simply because people's habits are changing. They no longer use pubs in the way they once were used. So the pubs become uneconomic and close through lack of local support. The same goes for social clubs too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
I've often wondered why communities ( in their true non PC sense) and their activities die out. The answer must be their failure to help themselves through lack of local leadership. By this I don't mean the local council. Such leadership can only come from within or else it simply reinforces the dependancy culture. So the people of Garston have to look to themselves as to why the excellent Garston Carnival which ran for many years and indeed the pram race died out. A recent attempt to bring new community life to Garston was the "Artistic Republic of Garston" organisation. I don't know the background but this seems to no longer be functioning. Was it due to lack of support from the locals?
What was Bankfield House where the fun run I used to do started from, wasn't that a community centre at one time?
Would u agree that the recent A.R.C of Garston only served the interests of those directly involved? I'm unsure of how it engaged ordinary members of the Garston Comunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by taffy
What's happened to The Slaughter House Art gallery?
Well I can remember the Bobbins! I found Norm and Taffy to be quite interesting, let?s think about it! When I say it should have leisure facilities I don?t mean it should be full of pubs gaiety, and general hedonism. What I encountered was a limbo. On one hand there is regeneration as in new homes being built. Then the other side of the coin is neglect of the still existing older part of the area. On Window Lane the street lighting was appalling and you must consider that in this day and age it is unacceptable, even if some folk find it atmospheric. I know Norm is right about the area and I do realize that the village is only a step. However some of the old stigma should vanish with regeneration. The no go area mentality went out with the ark in my book. If you consider how the Scotland road area has once again become a thriving community with social clubs and its own news letter the ?Scottie Press? then it should not be to difficult to imagine a Garston that is more cohesive. To get there, attitudes have to change. I think the biggest change has to be the unlabeling of the area .Also with changes in how we shop and how we dine the area might be amply served with just a few outlets. So it is not a massive economic project. Empowering is something that can be brought about by the dynamic of creativity that exists within communities. Lets face it discourse is better than a laugh and a joke about the place.
The Slaughterhouse Gallery has closed I believe. I think the ARC tried to involve the community but clearly didn't succeed. Whose fault would that be? Remember the fun day the ARC had last year. Surely an attempt to involve the community and advertise what the ARC were about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
I didn't know any of them despite living in Garston all my life, they would often play up their links to Garston I felt. At the top you had the Artist Alex C, then it filtered down to numerous individuals who were suposed to be artists, designers all from Garston. I'm not sure if I was a local lad in my younger years during the 80's if I'd have been inspired by the project. I was too busy playing football.
The day of the fun day, my mum didn't know much about it despite being in a local pub working at the time.
Garston does of course have its own multi colour 24 page community newspaper, the Garston News published by the Garston Community Council. This is available throughout Garston at many points of sale. This has been published for many years and I would recommend it to anyone interested in Garston. The Community Council runs the Garston Community House on Speke Rd and organised the refurbishment of the old derelict Garston Reading Room in Wellington Street as a Community Hall. Another group runs the Garston Village Hall on Banks Rd which of course is "under the bridge". So we immediately have an unneccessary divide in Garston. Surely one Garston Community Group should be involved in running both buildings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
One organisation that is active throughout all parts of Garston is of course the Church. Garston Parish Church even being sited "under the bridge" or to use an earlier more descriptive term "beyond the bridge". Also there's the Methodist church with sites on Banks Rd and Island Rd. These try very hard to involve all parts of the community in their work.
Large numbers did turn up though KevQuote:
Originally Posted by Kev
See
http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/sho...%22#post134178
Cheers Taffy, I remember. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by taffy
Further to Paddy's discourse: I'm sure that the re-development of the area can only be a 'good thing', and facilities such as more shops, leisure, and entertainment, will follow in due course. It's like the old story of the chicken and the egg! which needs to come first? I remember Speke Estate in it's early days, only a couple of shops at the top of Western Ave, (where the buses turned around) and nothing more! my wifes uncle used to deliver greengroceries around the area by van, and a lot of other services were provided in this way. Entertainment in those early days after the war, were mostly factory social clubs, Evans Medical, Dunlops, Brown & Bibby's etc, and St Christophers church hall would provide a dance night for teenagers at least once a week. As for Garston under the bridge,once the area is re-populated, I'm sure other facilities will follow, lets hope so anyway!!, and perhaps we, old and young, are responsible for perpetuating the 'division' of Garston! we are still refering to the area as 'Under the Bridge' or the 'Other Area'! myself included!! Cheers All. :PDT_Aliboronz_11:
See attached scan of a recent issue of the Garston News front page. Copies available from a variety of shops/pubs/churches in Garston and surrounding areas. Also available from the Garston Community House, Speke Rd, Garston.Quote:
Originally Posted by taffy