The Liverpool Welsh ( A happy thread )

spotted this from the bus and went up today to get some pix.

war memorial in Bootle
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...icture1390.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...icture1392.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...icture1393.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...icture1391.jpg

This overtly displays the Liverpool Welsh connections. The Welsh virtually built Bootle.

annwyl (a place,dear,beloved,darling,fond)
am (about,at,around,because.)
yr (he drives,she drives,it drives,he sends, she sends, it sends, he works, she works, it works,)
aelodau ( limbs, members)
eglwys (church)
a syrthiodd (i go he fell )
yn ( crookedly , obliquely, slopingingly crooked, oblique,sloping)
ryfel (war a war, warfare, a warfare)
ail ( a second time, again, like )
fyd (world, a world, state, a state, life, a life.)
this is the english meaning of these words
debbie

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Originally Posted by pasha

annwyl (a place,dear,beloved,darling,fond)
am (about,at,around,because.)
yr (he drives,she drives,it drives,he sends, she sends, it sends, he works, she works, it works,)
aelodau ( limbs, members)
eglwys (church)
a syrthiodd (i go he fell )
yn ( crookedly , obliquely, slopingingly crooked, oblique,sloping)
ryfel (war a war, warfare, a warfare)
ail ( a second time, again, like )
fyd (world, a world, state, a state, life, a life.)
this is the english meaning of these words
debbie

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I have Welsh heritage, my ancestors spoke the language, I haven't a clue. so thanks for that.

your very welcome just go on google (free on line welsh translation)
im a scouser living in wales, so i think im adopted now lol
debbie

hapus dewi sant

'Little Wales' Plaque, Pall Mall.

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e..._Pall_Mall.jpg

Thanks for that Marky - where abouts in the street is the plaque? Has it been there a while or just gone up?
thanks
Julie

The Little Wales plaque is on the right of Pall Mall, as you head out of town (North of Leeds Street junction). I only noticed it as I was looking at the former 'Liverpool Warehousing Co.' buildings.
A Google search states it was put up as recently as August last year:
http://www.scottiepress.org/projects/welsh.htm

Thanks Marky
I'll have to go down and have a good look - I didn't notice it last time I was there so I probably need to go further down.
Julie

Travelling around north Wales and Anglesey, I have seen some curious looking churches.

I have borrowed Quincy's L'pool dock rd silo photo to show how the silo reminds me of a church in Amlwch - does anyone know anything about the strange shape of these churches ? (well I think they are an unusual shape for a church) :)

The first photo was taken in Ruthin. The black & white picture of Amlwch I found on the internet.

They're are fascinating - I never seen anything like that. Hope someone can explain them to you.
Julie

hi lindylou, well i have found the one in amlwch, it's roman catholic, it's called our lady star of the sea. omg that took me ages.
any way it has something to do with the thetis a submarine built in cammell laird's.
she had her first sea trial on the 4th march 1939.
she sank during trails on the 1st june 1939 with the loss of 99 lives. how sad is that.
a full naval funeral with all honors was held, so maybe at the church,
well she was salvaged, repaired, and recommisined as h.m.s.thunderbolt.
she was then lost with all hands on march 4th 1943.
any way i hope this helps.
debbie
im not very good with p.c.'s otherwise i would have put all the link's up
but if you on wikipedia it'll tell you everything about the thetis
debbie

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Originally Posted by pasha

hi lindylou, well i have found the one in amlwch, it's roman catholic, it's called our lady star of the sea. omg that took me ages.
any way it has something to do with the thetis a submarine built in cammell laird's.
she had her first sea trial on the 4th march 1939.
she sank during trails on the 1st june 1939 with the loss of 99 lives. how sad is that.
a full naval funeral with all honors was held, so maybe at the church,
well she was salvaged, repaired, and recommisined as h.m.s.thunderbolt.
she was then lost with all hands on march 4th 1943.

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The only submarine ever to sink twice.

yea that's right, i think it was doomed from the begining
debbie

Thanks Pasha

your welcome if i get find any more on the other's i,ll let you know
debbie

I took this in 1988. Known as 'Ty Hyll' in Welsh, it can be found on the A5 at Capel Curig. When I used to go to Wales as a kid we would always pass it.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2338/...0b394132_o.jpg
Info can be found here:

http://www.snowdonia-society.org.uk/...ly%20House.htm

Took this photo last year in Betws Y Coed. of a girl playing the Welsh harp.

My favourite Welsh Castle: Harlech (1988)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/...c65b2541_o.jpg

Another of Ty Hyll.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/...49acffc0_o.jpg

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The only submarine ever to sink twice.

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I thought they were all designed to sink?

It's the failure to come up that's the problem.
:unibrow:

Ooh, it's the Ugly House - what a blast from the past! Always used to pass that en-route to hols in Wales and once visited it.

(This refers to Mark R's post a few posts up)

Just read the info on the Ugly House via the link Mark provided and I realise I was fibbed to as a child - my Dad told me it was a witch's house! I'll never trust him again!!!!

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I took this in 1988. Known as 'Ty Hyll' in Welsh, it can be found on the A5 at Capel Curig. When I used to go to Wales as a kid we would always pass it.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2338/...0b394132_o.jpg
Info can be found here:

http://www.snowdonia-society.org.uk/...ly%20House.htm

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You may have pointed in the general direction of it asking what it was and he said 'which house'.

Groans!

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Originally Posted by Ged

You may have pointed in the general direction of it asking what it was and he said 'which house'.

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here's an interesting link to some good information and pictures:

"The influence of the 1905 Revival amongst the Merseyside Welsh community by D Ben Rees"-

http://www.freewebs.com/lancs/merseysidelancashire.htm

Llandudno town centre with rather nice Victorian carved lamp posts.

Berw Colliery, Anglesey where my gtgtgt grandad lived and worked. one of his son's moved to Liverpool from there.
Anglesey Council are restoring them :handclap:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...rwColliery.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...lieryFront.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ieryFront1.jpg

photos from my distant Welsh cousin Stephen

That last pic reminds me of this derelict farm building - I took these photos when we were driving aimlessly around the country lanes - over past Llansannan way possibly towards Gwytherin. (not sure where it was) :)

lovely :PDT_Piratz_26:

That reminds me, has anyone ever seen that house on the Denbigh moors (in the distance)? We used to always drive past it. When we went again some years later, it looked like it was decaying...

We've driven over the moors a few times. I will look out for it next time.

here are a couple my son took with his mobile phone:

Great pics lindylou. Very atmospheric.

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We've driven over the moors a few times. I will look out for it next time.

here are a couple my son took with his mobile phone:

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:handclap: look like summat from a Hammer film

For those who wish to learn more about the history of the Welsh in Garston, I'd recommend the privately published 50 page new booklet " Chapel Road Garston" by Arthur Thomas. It's an excellent read. Copies available from the Garston & District Histoical Society

http://www.bwpics.co.uk/gallery/miscimages/yew.jpg

One of my favourite trees: an ancient yew on the shore of Lake Bala, 2004

http://www.bwpics.co.uk/gallery/miscimages/tegid.jpg

Sunrise: Lyn Tegyd, August 2001

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That reminds me, has anyone ever seen that house on the Denbigh moors (in the distance)? We used to always drive past it. When we went again some years later, it looked like it was decaying...

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Is it the great big place? I defied the 'keep out' signs and went for a mooch around it twenty-odd years ago. Fantastic place- no roof but a very impressive fireplace in a room full of sheltering sheep. It's called Gwylfa Hiraethog, which, I'm told, translates as 'watchtower of the Hiraethog mountains'. It was in a bad state back then so must be terrible by now.

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Originally Posted by knowhowe

Is it the great big place? I defied the 'keep out' signs and went for a mooch around it twenty-odd years ago. Fantastic place- no roof but a very impressive fireplace in a room full of sheltering sheep. It's called Gwylfa Hiraethog, which, I'm told, translates as 'watchtower of the Hiraethog mountains'. It was in a bad state back then so must be terrible by now.

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oh, I know that building. it has been derelict for years. Not sure if it is still there. I will look out for it.

I'm resisting the temptation of posting more photos of Wales. :PDT_Xtremez_42:

... it's a case of 'don't start me !!' - - - I LOVE Wales and I have trillions of photos and video footage. There's hardly any part of north Wales I havn't been to. I have some fab pics. There are just too many.