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CRUX POTESTAS BEI is along the lines of
CRUX - Cross
POTESTAS - Power
BEI - With or At
It's Grade 2 listed and was erected in 1350.Quote:
Originally Posted by taffy
Damaged at a later date, it was restored in 1913 when Woolton was incorporated in to Liverpool.
Thank you both, MarkA and Cadfael, for the additional interesting information that you have provided on the Woolton cross.
Chris
Re Priory Wood cross:
I'd assumed it was from the Priory near to the 'cazzy' and incorporated into the wall around the time of the Garden Festival/development of Priory Wood.
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Originally Posted by marky
Look what came out when i took a pic
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/crossy.jpg
Spooky
You best get on to sLemon straight away :unibrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomie
...a minute later Gnomie realises just where that smoke was coming from :unibrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomie
http://mayhem-chaos.net/photoblog/im...mm_07_burn.jpg
No ghost on my pic, unfortunately.
This 'cross' put up at the time of the Garden Festival, and at the same time a booklet was issued by the St Michael's Hamlet Society about the history of the area.
It mentions the arch, which came from the house, the Priory, but doesn't menton this cross, which, as Marky says also probably came from the house.
If it had been ancient, it would have been mentioned somewhere.
Besides, it looks Victorian.
There are three 'crosses' near St Barnabus Church (where I was a choirboy).
Bromborough Cross.
The base and steps are possibly late 13th century and the shaft and head were added in 1874.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1216/...8b0b0f4c_o.jpg
The Preaching Cross.
Fragments of a Saxon Cross - possibly 10th century - were reassembled, with plain blocks added so it can be easily seen which are the old parts.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/...dddd884f_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1374/...3a0f8afa_o.jpg
The War Memorial.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1290/...3c8c4266_o.jpg
This was the view I really wanted, but the late evening sun was shining right at me.
From left to right the buildings are:
the former Irwins where I was the 'order boy'; the primary school I went to for a few months before going to the local secondary school; (the church is off to the right); and the church institute where I was in the cubs, then the scouts.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1382/...6105482f_o.jpg
the Cross in Whitney Gardens Shaw Street
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94...176/warmem.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94..._regiment1.gif
http://www.memorials.inportsmouth.co...l_regiment.htm
Great photographs, Gnomie, MarkA, Philip, and Mandy. Enjoyed them all immensely.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
Philip, the St. Michael's cross looks old to me, or at least in my view the carvings could be ancient, Saxon or Celtic. Although I agree with you that if it was really old one would think someone would have mentioned it. If it is a mock-up and most probably it is a Victorian "replica", to my mind, it is a pretty good simulation of an old one.
Chris
Replica Cross, Liverpool Maritime Museum (2nd floor). I forgot to take a pic. of the information panel for this one. Anyway, I recognise the top-right photo as the Bromborough Saxon cross.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...lica_Cross.jpg
No photo here but does anyone remember the old cross in Brookside ?
Harry Cross!!!
(Sorry,I couldn't resist):PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Another Cross from the Wirral, the lesser known Tranmere Cross
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2...1008077io0.jpg
Tranmere Cross, Victoria Park, Tranmere Village
Tranmere Cross stands at the Church Road Entrance to Victoria Park, in the centre of the old village of Tranmere.The cross was re-set here in 1937 after being moved from the Church Road/Dial Road junction. It was moved due to the demolition of Tranmere Old Hall (where it was sited for a spell) and also due to the widening/straightening of Church Road.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2...1008079xw3.jpg
Tranmere Cross, Victoria Park, Tranmere Village Local historians think that the cross was carved during the 1500's. The face you see above is one of two which were originally carved.
Reference: Sidelights on Tranmere by JE Allinson
These two images will appear in a forthcoming update to Flickr which takes an extensive look at Tranmere in its current form.
PhilipG: I never knew Bromborough had three crosses! It most certainly is more famous for having a cross in the old village centre.
I once bought an old print, which was supposed to be the High Park Coffee House in Toxteth.
For years I couldn't verify it, and eventually I saw a picture in a book, and it turned out to be Tranmere Old Hall!
I'll take a photo of it in daylight tomorrow, and post it.
Phil, that would be very nice indeed! Sidelights on Tranmere only has prints of Tranmere New Hall; this was demolished during the 1920's with the Tranmere Hall estate being on its grounds. I have been told there is a plaque on one of the houses; will have to venture round that way next time that part of Wirral is lucky enough to receive a visit from yours truly!
Located at the junction of Penny Lane/Hall Lane and Smithy Lane, Cronton.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...nton_Cross.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...s_location.jpg
The Cronton cross is a bit of a paradox. One theory is that it was used as a resting place for pall bearers as they were carrying the coffins through the fields either to Widnes or Rainhill. I believe from a reliable source who is a historian, that there was another such cross in Cronton on Sandy Lane where it meets Cronton Road but that the stonework was stolen in the 1940s or 1950s.
http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/htrr005.jpg
Roby Cross
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Originally Posted by Chris48
Hi Chris et al.
Such crosses were used as a resting place for pall bearers as they were carrying the coffins. The cross that is on the country lane in lane between Thornton and Sefton was used for such a purpose, as discussed earlier in this thread.
Fine photographs and information here, everyone! :handclap:
Chris
Went through there today took a pic of the inscription on the base.[IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...x/P1010809.jpg[/IMG]Quote:
Originally Posted by robbo176
There`s a story on the base. It was first erected in Portsmouth 1863,then moved to Chelsea in 1877 before finally arriving in Liverpool in 1911
Very interesting, Gregs Dad. Thanks. May those soldiers rest in peace.
Chris
There is another one in Rainhill, I heard a similar story and also it marks dick turpins horses burial place i'm toldQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris48
Hi all
The following information that I found about a cross at Todmorden in Calderdale, West Yorkshire, may prove illuminating (it looks as if the same information is repeated on web pages for other crosses registered as ancient monuments in Calderdale). The narrative may be a bit Yorks.- and Southwest-centric since it does not seem to take allowance of the large number of crosses that I know of and that we have been picturing in the Merseyside area. The description also applies to the authentically medieval crosses of course as well, and not to Victorian or 20th Century crosses such as the one pictured above for the King's Regiment.
Chris
Wayside crosses are one of several types of Christian cross erected during the medieval period, mostly from the 9th to 15th centuries AD. In addition to serving the function of reiterating and reinforcing the Christian faith amongst those who passed the cross and of reassuring the traveller, wayside crosses often fulfilled a role as waymarkers, especially in difficult and otherwise unmarked terrain. The crosses might be on regularly used routes linking ordinary settlements or on routes having a more specifically religious function, including those providing access to religious sites for parishioners and funeral processions, or marking long-distance routes frequented on pilgrimages.
Over 350 wayside crosses are known nationally, concentrated in south west England throughout Cornwall and on Dartmoor where they form the commonest type of stone cross. A small group also occurs on the North York Moors. Relatively few examples have been recorded elsewhere and these are generally confined to remote moorland locations.
Outside Cornwall almost all wayside crosses take the form of a 'Latin' cross, in which the cross-head itself is shaped within the projecting arms of an unenclosed cross. In Cornwall wayside crosses vary considerably in form and decoration. The commonest type includes a round, or 'wheel', head on the faces of which various forms of cross or related designs were carved in relief or incised, the spaces between the cross arms possibly pierced. The design was sometimes supplemented with a relief figure of Christ and the shaft might bear decorative panels and motifs. Less common forms in Cornwall include the 'Latin' cross and, much rarer, the simple slab with a low relief cross on both faces. Rare examples of wheel-head and slab-form crosses also occur within the North York Moors Group. Most wayside crosses have either a simple socketed base or show no evidence for a separate base at all.
Wayside crosses contribute significantly to our understanding of medieval religious customs and sculptural traditions and to our knowledge of medieval routeways and settlement patterns. All wayside crosses which survive as earthfast monuments, except those which are extremely damaged and removed from their original locations, are considered worthy of protection.
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This is the Weeping Stone in St Chads Gardens in Kirkby originally a cross called the Park Brow Cross.
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the inscription
Crosby village
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Wonderful thread and such great pics. Chris has mentioned the wayside crosses at Thornton. There were numerous crosses which were utilised in this way. Makes you think about how difficult it was to transport the dead across often heavily wooded or boggy land to get to churches for burial (what a job). In the case of the Thornton, it was one of (so local knowledge around here goes) 12 or so which led from the coast to St Helens Church in Sefton Village (between Netherton and Maghull) Those washed up on the shores of the Mersey were carried a distance of near 7 miles to this lovely church for burial. Not only do we have these lovely crosses but we also have a magic well!!! St Helens Well is situated not far from the Thornton Cross and in a field near the Punchbowl Pub. After we finish crosses perhaps we could do one on wells. I havent seen any other steams or wells with reputed magic or healing powers except St Helens and the one in St James Cemetery.
Thanks, Partsky, for that information about the Thornton crosses. St. Helen's Church at Sefton is a lovely old church. As you say, it would be great to have a thread on wells that would include St. Helen's Well near the church in Sefton. It could include other ancient wells such as the Monk's Well in Wavertree, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partsky
Chris
Great pic Quincy!Quote:
Originally Posted by quincyg
(We won't tell them about the blokes in the background having lunch! hehe)
After they removed the spire from the church tower:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...Picture034.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...Picture036.jpg
lol...that was funny though. I thought I'd clicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaisyChains
St Patrick's , Park Place
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...icture2247.jpg
That shot looks good framed with the branches :handclap:
Gracias. I'd like to take the credit for being clever and arty...but I had to stick camera through the railings as there was no access to the cross. It got me some odd looks I must say lol. I just aim and hope for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
Cross and milestone, Ince Blundell. I know a few crosses around Sefton, which I'll pick-off this summer. These are at the Northern Boundary of Ince Blundell (junction of Lady Green Lane/Scaffold Lane)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3638/...53589c6946.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2563250...n/photostream/
look forward to them Marky. be nice to see places I can't get to :)