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@Kev
I deleted it by accident but I have sent him another message via his site. As soon as he replies I'll pm you.
its april 2007 anyone please do they know how to get down to the arch? i dont think you can use them old steps anymore i tryed the other day but couldnt find away and i got sum strange looks of people cause i kept jumping up at walls lol
Ha Ha Ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by oritelad
I don't think you can access it from 'over the walls'.
From what I can remember there was a gated access above the Moorish Arch but it is very dangerous to try and reach rail level by descending these stairs; half of them are non-existent and there is not much to see at all from above.
The best way to access the site officially(!) is from Edge Hill Railway station on Tunnel Road but I doubt you would be bothered to get the permission and a guide to take you. (You have to hold Rail Track Safety Card in order to trespass on the railway).
I would have liked to have seen Edge Hill Station refurbished and the Moorish Arch linked to it as a tourist attraction with guided tours - maybe a working steam winding engine, the ones used to haul the trains back up the Wapping Tunnel etc. The whole site is of great historical interest but at the moment its location would make it difficult to bring to life; I read somewhere that there are murmurings of this actually happening as Edge Hill Station could do with sprucing up a bit.
We also need to remember that freight trains do still use the remaining lines down there, (from what I can remember), for the time being, to reverse and head for the Seaforth Docks via the Bootle Branch.
elo there
first post,
my ears where burning lol
yeah as has been said, myself and another more experienced model maker are currently making a model of the crown st area, workin flat out this month to get it ready for our club show in may,
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...eldelz/099.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...eldelz/075.jpg
any questions about the real or model fire away
few questions for you guys, anyone know what the half demolished building above the cutting is in the pic that was posted earlier?
anyone know when the tunnel and bridge area around the bottom of smithdown lane was filled up, landscaped and made into a park, (guessing mid 90s)
and when was the new school above the cutting built (60s??? )
cheers
mike
this is all incredibly interesting! thanks for the info!!
Hi Mike,
What a fantastic project you have going there, I'm becoming a bit of rail enthusiast at the mo, this Moorish Arch area being my main interest at the moment.
Blame my son who is mad on Thomas The Tank Engine. :)
Welcome Mike, I hope you can bring more excellent contributions to the site :PDT11
Kev
Ooop! Have you ever been on the site recently?
Excellent work Mike, it looks fantastic! Really good to visualise what it must have been like there. When is your show? Is it the one on the bank holiday at the Blanch school?
As far as getting to the Moorish Arch... as is said above, you probably won't get there from above. The only way is from either end of the cutting. To the west is the fenced off end that enters the park (to think I climbed over that when drunk one night, many years ago!!) and to the east is Edge Hill station.
I've been there several times to walk the disused railway tunnels, although the last time was about 3 years ago. Unfortunately if you get caught you're going to land yourself with a fine, and probably get arrested.
It's been landscaped more than once, I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike delamar
I remember the vent was standing in a sort of park in the mid 1980s.
I wonder if this is it? Taken from the subterranean britannica siteQuote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/
Click on Liverpool Crown Street.
:rolleyes: Shame its gone forever :rolleyes:Quote:
Crown Street was the original western passenger terminus of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway the world's first railway to cater for passengers as one of its primary functions. It was also arguably the worlds first inter city railway.
:lol: I think you can blame me for you burny ears!Quote:
Originally Posted by mike delamar
In answer to your first question, do ou mean the grey building?
From what I can remember the area was concreted over and landscaped early 90s. I think in the final years the it switched from a coal yard to scrap metal. I seem to remember peeping though the yard gates and seeing huge piles of scrap metal.
The school above the cutting is St Annes (my sisters went there) and I would say it was 60's too.
The model looks amazing by the way. :handclap:
From the Liverpool Model Railway Exhibition
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/4...289fd89949.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/4...7d5364d467.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/4...b50481c251.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/4...834d042758.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/4...3588e9253b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/4...3e117f9acc.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/182/4...cdc07f778d.jpg
Ah that looked really good, I'm sorry I didn't go now. :( It'd be nice to see some pics though.
yeah it was a great weekend, good to meet the lads from here :)
some piccies
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...eldelz/110.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...elz/235336.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...lz/ghjkl-1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...twistle002.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...delz/008-2.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...delz/023-1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...z/frontage.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...delz/053-1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...z/crownst8.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...eldelz/063.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...delz/031-1.jpg
mike
Great pics Mike. thanks for those Myrtle Gardens ones, i'll add them to my site like I said giving you the credit. I like those houses with the back wall demolished and the rubble in them. Good luck in Milton Keynes.
Excellent :handclap: :handclap:
Really good, nice to see the old pic,s especialy the one with paddy,s
wigwam being built
thanks guys :)
ged i think this is the only other one ive got of myrtle gardens,
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...fromtunnel.jpg
from the small tunnel
all apart from the arial view are jim peden
cheers
mike
Great pics again Mike, sorry I missed it.
Have you considered taking some black & white pictures of the model? They can put a new perspective on it.
Bravo Mike:handclap:
Courtesy of Science & Society
Hello all this is my first post so here goes
liverpool railways and thier tunnels
have done the waterloo and victoria, august this year.
Just done the dingle tunnel
though now its time to bring on the daddy of them all the wapping, the only thing is the two fences you have to get over in which to gain entry.
not only is it hard getting in to the old crown street station site (now a double skin 8ft steel fence)
but they have also decided to put another fence over the entrance to the tunnel itself
so what do you think, should i go for it ?
Have you got any pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpool Lad
I have done Dingle tunnel myself.
Go for it! But be careful!
Yeah i have got quite a few pics, will post them on here this weekend.
so has anyone been in to the wapping tunnel, in say the past 2 years ?
i could allways go under the fence :034: instead of over
Contact Snappel by email who is on this forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpool Lad
http://www.level-two.co.uk/report.php?locname=waterloo
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...davidcobb1.jpg
My favourite painting in the Merseyside Maritime Museum is this one by David Cobb.
He has captured the mood of the port and the country I think in this painting. It,s quite moody and spooky
Oh and by the way a day out in this museum is free and is the best value for money in the whole country.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...edavidcobb.jpg
Here,s another one of his paintings.