I suppose they chose Alexei Sayle because he's reasonably well-known, and probably reasonably cheap.
I agree, Jericho, that he does represent an "alternate" view of Liverpool that is about as relevant today as "Bread" is.
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I suppose they chose Alexei Sayle because he's reasonably well-known, and probably reasonably cheap.
I agree, Jericho, that he does represent an "alternate" view of Liverpool that is about as relevant today as "Bread" is.
Mornin' Ged Lad..sorry about the PM thingy and have now deleted PM's,got yer text ..Thanks
I dont think I'd be the right choice for that mate,I could only tell them about my Dad being born in the area and working in Silcocks and getting a Gold Rolex when he retired..and losing it on St Anne At when he was a little worse for wear :PDT_Aliboronz_24: and a few tales about his Dad and what he got up to and me Mam coming from Gerard St and Gerard Gardens/Ponnie tales etc and maybe my going to Holy Cross and St Joeys..
I really could'nt tell them much more about the hardships in the early part of the Century and the Slum dwellings etc as I dont really know that much about it to be honest.
I know a little bit Ged but not enough mate to go on the telly and give the story of Scottie Rd..
Im flattered mate you thought of me when you got that message..Thanks Ged..G.
No probs mate. A pity Peggy isn't still with us eh, I bet she could have told him a few stories. I also thought of Tommy O'Keefe and Mr Ryan but I know from Paul that he couldn't even get them to talk on Gardens of Stone but turn the mic off and they'll talk for England.
:PDT10Watcha me heartys,
I don,t think Mr Sayle is even remotely in the top one hundred of presenters to do a job like that. He once said that Liverpool didn,t know the meaning of culture or something equally disparaging. Looks like he,s been chosen to take the shine off our success. It,s like asking the devil to show off heaven.
As for Phil Redmond doing it either, he doesn,t live in the city.
Now if you asked a proper Scouser like maybe Ricky Thomlinson, massive fee or not, he would be worth it.
And maybe an older one who would know something of those hardships that Gerard previously mentioned.
Well said chaps..Alexie who..that posh boy tryin' to be all Eh Lar blah blah blah..A has been Joke who's only doing it for the few quid..
A Scottie Documentary with him fronting it..now that really will be one for the Archives..
Take Note producers from people who really care about Scottie Rd..
GET SHUT of that balloon and get someone in Like Ged Fagan mentions who grew up in the area and knows the History like the back of their hand..
Im talking about someone to present the show and Interview people he Knows..and will get the best out of Scottie Roaders and make you a Documentery second to none.
And he's right here on Yo....GED FAGAN...Get him to front your Scotland Road Documentery..do it..If you want to see the real Scottie Rd that is..
Want one thats gonna be a Laughing stock..then get that Phoney Sayle in.
Its not reaaaaaaaaally about Scotland Road though is it..
Its all about getting a no mark C list name presenter so people will watch your Show..
One who knows as much about Scottie Rd as I know about The north face of Everest...Which is not much I can tell yer.
Thanks Gerard but I don't think i'm old enough to do it justice :unibrow: there's better people than me and having moved away i'd feel like a phoney anyway. Give Joe a knock, he'll rattle all the alehouses off ha ha.
These people must have an agent and they lap it up when the BBC et al are looking for someone to front a show.
Ged and Gerard i have aked you both about the area in the past when i was trying to learn about where my family lived. I was really interested in the replies you gave. you both gave me a good insite into the area and helped me understand where things where. i can know walk around the area knowing what was there. I could have sat in Gerards all day listening to him talk about Comus street:PDT_Piratz_26:
I think you both could do it.
Thanks Tony. You wanna hear him when he's sober.
He was, and very interesting too.
serious though you two should think about it. :PDT11
Ta Tony Lad..anytime mate..:PDT11
Did you get that PM Tone I sent yer last night about Limekiln Lane ??
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Now eh Ged..you make sure you bring yer bib and straw with yer when we go out for this bevvie..
Dont worry Lad..I'll get yer on the bus when yer've took the hickory dickory dock after 4 pints..:unibrow:..
Tell yer Mrs yer'll be home for half 8 bladdered .:$ik:
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Oh no, not the Lee Jones league of welldoers, you not knocking on that old are yer Tony?
Lime street of course was the original Limekiln lane and due to the smells from the kilns, the doctors at the nearby infirmary - site now of the St. George's Hall complained and so the kilns were moved to a site adjacent to St. Martins in the field and renamed limekiln lane. Lime streets name was then shortened.
:handclap:Now then Gedrick, that was a bit of information that I didn,t know about. I,ll be telling my nearest and dearest all about it later. They think I,m quite knowledgeable with these facts on Liverpool.
Only for this site I,d be an arl ar*****:shock:
Seriously, instead of doing a petition on Bjork, I should be doing one to get the two gees presenting the Capital Of Culture Show.:)
In the red corner, bladdered is Gerard. In the blue corner only halfway bladdered is Gedrick .
Good on yer you two.:handclap:
Thanks Chippie but i'm tellin' yer, Gerard won't be happy with that slur, him being bladdered before me.:)
Ay well he,d been drinking in that pub in School Lanr before he met up with you see, The Post Office it was. Saw him through the winder singing Maggie May.:PDT_Aliboronz_24::PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Are you sure he was 'Singing' Maggie May?
:handclap::handclap:Thank you Gerard for your lovely photos. I must say though I feel very sad after looking at them.It was almost as though I had never lived there as it all looks so different and I only recognised a few places. St Anthonys, and a few in town. I lived on Great Homer St but had no idea that, that was what I was looking at, what part of Great Homer street is it and which way are we looking? I left Liverpool 31 Years ago but have been back 5 times, the last visit was 4 years ago.
You put a lot of effort into your posts and your photos and make it very interesting reading and viewing, thank you.
Well Ged, he did have his boiler suit over the chair in the corner????????:eek:
Ozziebabs, I second that. There are some smashing people on here who would go out of their way to help uou out with information and photographs. Then there are the people like me!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
Nice sentiments for those that deserve them.:hug:
Hiya ozziebabs and welcome to the group,
Thank you for the nice comments about my piccies,it is very much appreciated..Thanks again..
Heres a few more for yer..
If you want any photos of Greaty as is now or anywhere else around the town then just let me know and I'll get them for yer..
Hope you like these.
Do you remember Wilbraham house on Scottie at the top of Wilbraham St opposite Paddy's market ?
This piccie is looking down Wilbraham St toward Greaty and Tysons has just been demolished.
The new white building at the bottom of the street is where the entrance to Paddys market was.
The blue building extreme right is where Woolies was many moons ago.
The Blue place to the left by the trees was the Lamplighter pub.
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Bottom of Wilbraham st to the left looking north along Greaty.
Next piccie taken outside the Kwiki looking at where Paddys market stood
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What was the Lamplighter looking toward St Anne St
Tysons was behind the hoardings to the right
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Lamplighter to my right looking back along Greaty.
Tysons to the left before it was demolished.
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Scottie Rd from Comus st looking toward Holy Cross area with Leeds st centre picture leading up to Vauxhall rd
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Byrom St looking toward Holy Cross and up Scottie Rd.
The Byrom pub (The Pie shop) was where the plant machine is.
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These next few piccies are taken from the St George's hill area on Netherfield Rd.
Looking North along Netherfield Rd..
The Tugboat Pub centre picture now boarded up.
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Looking down Prince Edwin st toward Fox st and Greaty.
St Gregorys school (now Campion) to the right.
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From the same place as last piccie looking to the right across my Liverpool.
Yep..MYYYYYYYY Liverpool taken from my favourite place to take piccies.
The Soho Arms pub was the white building right centre
The 4 squares stood on the green grass area to the left of what was the Soho.
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hope yer like em ozziebabs.
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Really great pic,s Bring back some memories for me. The kwik save store
used to look after the alarm in that. The pic showing the pub with the block
of shops, I seem to remember a good chippy in that block. Many years ago
1964 I was an apprentice TV engineer in Telefusions workshop which was
in Conway street I think it was...
Great pics Gerard. The area is unrecognisable to me, I knew it well, for about a year 1958/9 I drove the delivery van for Clarksons at Mile End. It was nice to know scottie prior to the Tunnel construction.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Thank's chaps..:PDT11
Great photos Gerard :PDT_Piratz_26:
That final picture already looks like a classic.
Well in Gerard.
I noticed a demolition team just off Scotland Road at Wright Street...maybe of interest, as there's an old building there with a date-stone.
Yes perhaps Blackpool born hobo Rick (born Eric) might've been a good choice, he's probably forgotten more than most people know, having been on the trade Union circuit regarding industry closures on Merseyside. He did turn down a 5 figure sum to appear nude for a mag though so maybe his fee wouldn't be that massive if he can afford to turn dough away.:unibrow:
Wright Street, March 2007. There were workmen around the middle section of this derelict block, when I passed yesterday...maybe making it safe?
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Some nice pictures of the area around the old Gerrard Gardens. It was always a good place in the 60's to pick up some last minute bombywood. The local residents were kind enough to source said material and spend many weeks gathering and placing it in the one location for our convenience. A couple of nights before the fifth, preferably after midnight on the fourth we would hasten to said location and help ourselves.
Where were you from Charley, that certainly didn't happen in the 70s :011:
Ha ha.
Twas a cold and frosty November night when the gang of ill-dressed ragamuffins scampered through the moonlight. Up to the Gardens came the shout for there we will find all manner of booty. As a mere nippy-napper I scampered along excited to be going so very far away on such a cold night wearing the schools best shoes especially for the occasion. On and on down hill and up lane we travelled meeting many a person on our way and collecting here and yonder pennies from the from inebriated passers by. The main entrance to the gardens being guarded by large children with little spelling ability but mighty fists that had never held a pen had us scarpering for another entrance. On finding and loading with said bounty, the locals figuring out what was going on scurried to do battle most hastily. My bummeth squeaketh most surely. Then one of our number (the head boy if I do recollect most rightly) shouteth out " What is the longest river in the North American Continent, not including Canada" At this the youths stopped and began to scratch heads, one unkempt urchin tried counting fingers removing his green flash (stolen) pumps as he added his toes to the confusion. As we made away I heard a lonesome voice crying out in the distance " do man-made canals count in the final calculation" Oh how we laughed. And finally as we made our way back home we espied a baby in his pram, a curly, black haired mite with just the beginnings of a tache who as we passed threw his dummy at us from out of his pram. Look lads said the head boy young Ged has started already.
Ha ha Charley. Once that bummeth had squeketh, i'm sureth as hell that the smelleth alone would have alerted the mighty squad down yonder to the pilfering barefoot scoundrels and saw them off with (shiver me) timbers from the local warehousemen.
Interesting you say 'Up to the Gardens'
but later say.....
'On and on down hill and up lane'
I think you were lost myself :)
Would one have been coming up from Vauxy/Fonney Oy
or down from the Bully or 4 squares
Arrrey bee.
Neither from any of the places you mentioned but the hordes I ran amok with in the late 60's came from the area once known as "Stanny". From where we conducted many a raid on the surrounding areas and truth be told suffered many a reverse from the areas you mentioned. I often wonder if we would'nt have all been better simply not bothering with all the "raids" we used to carry out as the wood all semed to end up more or less where it first started out. However a large part of the fun was planning and carrying out these raids on other areas. We often sent a smaller group in first who would be chased leaving the rest of us to rush in and steal as much wood as we could carry. We never got as far as the four squares and the bully was way out of our league, and we used to skirt round that place whnever we were in the vicinity.
Here is the latest edition (Jan 08) of Britain's longest running community newspapers to read online.
http://scottiepressarchive.org/383/s...an2008_pg1.htm
Here also, you can read back issues from the archive
http://www.scottiepressarchive.org/paperindex.htm
Enjoy.
I love the Carters and their horses that are featured:PDT11
I am helping Ron Formby locate historic images of the Liverpool Irish in the Scotland Road area in support of the Scottie Press efforts to have the history, heritage and culture of the Scotland Road area included in the Liverpool Irish Festival 2008. Anyone who has photos or other memorablia that they feel might be able to assist this work can contact Ron on 0151 482 2000 or email ronformby@scottiepress.org
Cheers,
Ged.
Organised by the Scottie Press as part of the Vauxhall Neighbourhood Council, it will be held over both large rooms with entertainment running throughout the day. I know we're playing there, there's an Irish dance group, Stevie Faye and Micky Finn are scheduled to appear, a police brass band, Mandoliers and disco + more.
Ron tells me he could have sold out the 04 reunion 4 times over as many ex residents from the tenements, high rise and streets off Scottie all assembled en masse with stories, photo albums and memories of the way they were with the children and now grandchildren of those residents also taking part to keep the flag flying.
If anyone is interested, please refer to the poster.