Or put another way, wannabe gangsters who are big guys when in groupsQuote:
Originally Posted by shank
of 9 or 10.
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Or put another way, wannabe gangsters who are big guys when in groupsQuote:
Originally Posted by shank
of 9 or 10.
They're just pathetic. If you got all these kids a put them somewhere that has real gangsters and real gangs, they wouldn't last two minutes. To them it's all a big game, what they don't realise is in other cities especially in the U.S. that is a way of life, they don't go round shooting eachother to look good or act 'cool' in front of their mates. They make me laugh.
Jimmy Corkhill in Brookside always used to call Barry Grant a plazzy gangster!
(Them were the days!)
:ninja:Big men trying to get out of little mens bodies.They never make it no
guts, unless mobhanded.
Ernie.
Funny how on their YouTube vids the gangs always say stuff like 'If ya come ta Kenny la see how long ya last', etc. Always on the home turf, when all the others are there. But that's what it is - it's all show. They want to be seen to look hard, but really what are they? Kids.
Look at real organised gangs and bosses, like the Krays, Gotti, Gambino... when did you ever see them making videos to prove their weight (or lack there-of)?
Very true Snappel :handclap:
Maybe the recent net phenomenon and all things electronic and small has detracted these kids' attentions away from the actualities of forming serious organised crime organisations (although anti social stuff is very bad), instead they make these vids and pretend, acting it all out.
The thing is, there are so many of them running around now that the chances of any of them actually making any success out of their criminality is slim to say the least. Non of them have experienced the hardships of previous generations, that has led to The Krays, Curtis Warren etc...., just bad role models and parenting. Lets face it, financially, they get all the hand-outs available.
Exactly. Real organised criminals keep quiet and don't draw attention to themselves. If I was an international drug baron, I'd live in a small flat with a beaten-up old Ford Escort. Then I'd stash all the funds in an offshore bank account. I certainly wouldn't make a video saying 'Look m8 im da illest drgz boss in da land lolzorzzz!!!1 chek ma weaponz an me b1tchz'.
Like the Cayman Islands.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Which are UK owned too!
I live in Anfield. Someone got stabbed the other day outside the Oakfield pub and I hear someone got axed near Thirlmere Road.
Mothers tell of suicide bid as they speak out against gangs of 20 yobs roaming streets causing mayhem . . . “it’s like living in Beirut”, they tell ECHO
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Gangs of up to 20 children are roaming the streets attacking cars and houses and threatening violence to anyone who opposes them.
People should demand that the police chief gets results or is fired, he is a highly paid government official. YOU pay him so you should demand results.
The yob situation was getting noticeable even 25 years ago when I left, todays yobs are the offspring of those yobs, they know no better because that is how they were raised. The problem should have been addressed years ago but do-gooders thought they knew best.
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Originally Posted by shytalk
spot on Sir..:PDT11
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Originally Posted by shytalk
Yes the do gooders, who have harmed society more than corporal punishment ever could. Don't hit a kid of say 23 (kid hah) or an 18 year old whos 6'3 and built like a brick wall because they just battered a pensioner or a random person because they only need guidance and don't know right from wrong. Even though a 5 year old automatically knows when he or she is naughty, dosen't apply to these 'kids'. There mums and dads split up when they were 3 months old you see so there angry at society, so to compensate they go round in gangs and make people lives hell. Thats why there justified in there actions.
MEMO to liberals, no it dosen't, let them target your elderley mothers or grannys house and then say there 'just kids'.
yes, that's the way I feel - - I gave up having any sympathy or understanding a long time ago.
I don't want to 'understand' them.
We are all sick to the back teeth of it. :angry:
Probably nothing to shout about but does anyone think that what happened in Norris Green last year will start happening in Anfield this year. For example innocent young lads being killed, turf wars etc. Probably won't happen but need to be cautious.
In all probability it will, there's a progression in behavior from anti social kids into teens who take it to the next level. They've been let down in a weird kind of way from our society of doogooders (mentioned in another thread) who have made us all powerless to do anything about it.
I dont think Liam 'smigger Smith was entirely an innocent lad, although he obviously didnt deserve to be shot dead. The reality now is that if you get into a gang and crime guns will become invovled at some point the higher up the chain you go.Quote:
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Luke, it probably will. There have already been some shootings in Anfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke the Scouser
Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Evil prospers when good men do nothing. Maybe it's about time to bring back vigilante justice.. (Wait for the bleeding hearts to cry Foul ). If the police are powerless to do anything it's a viable option.
Who would actually carry out the vigilante justice in this case? Its the police not having the resources and being powerless which is allowing these thugs to roam the streets having their turf wars. Just how are a group of good people going to get hold of guns to give the thugs a taste of their own medicine?Quote:
Originally Posted by customhouse
I'd be all for a vigilante. :PDT11
At a meeting recently, someone suggested that everyone should club together and hire a security outfit to guard our streets.
remember those Americans that came here - think it was 1980s ?? The guardian angels or something like that. They wore a uniform of some sort and were on the London trains in particular.
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Originally Posted by lindylou
You already hire a security outfit, THE POLICE. You pay a fortune in taxes to provide them yet you get little in return. The worst thing ever to happen was the system of giving a case number to verify things are reported but no action taken, scrap this idea immediately.
Make the chief constable responsible for his actions or lack thereof. Make the job an elected position if necessary so he can be voted out, This would ensure that they earned their high salary.
Someone needs to start a website to get things changed. Having seen the way not just Liverpool has gone but the whole country I would do this if I knew how. I understand why people are afraid to speak out, this would be a way to get things changed without risk.
Another thing that needs to be scrapped is the ASBO, another do gooders mistake, yobs wear it as a badge of honour, this isn't anything new, kids did this when I was a kid in the 50's. Bragging that they were 'Up for GBH etc.' to appear to be hard.
Regarding the 'Guardian Angels', they are a political group who have stood up against anti-social behaviour, they are mostly in the New York area I think but do travel to help out elsewhere. I don't think this would be the best way to solve the problem, some people taking part might get out of hand and get themselves in trouble and create a bad reputation for the whole group.
Wearing a tag has the same effect.:disgust:Quote:
Another thing that needs to be scrapped is the ASBO, another do gooders mistake, yobs wear it as a badge of honour,
Luke, wear yer bullet proof duffle bag mate. I know a lass that lives your way and she,s a threat on the streets of Anfield. She carries a bulldog around with her wherever she goes, watch out for her. Goes by the name of lindylou, she,ll steal the lolipops from yer inside pocket while yer blinking.:D
I was taken round Berlin to a place I was looking for by the guardian angels. I only asked the way and a troupe took me and showed me where it was. Decent sort of guys I thought at the time.:ninja:
Norrisgreen again, I live the bottom end of Scargreen Avenue, east lanc"s end. The top end is the Strand,all very quiet and peaceful,good police patrols
all the time. The murder happened by Altcross,and the people they have for
it are from Croxteth and Speke according to the Echo.
THE construction of New Anfield will kick-start one of the biggest regeneration projects north Liverpool has seen.
It will come as a relief to residents, who have waited years for pledges of huge amounts of investment to become reality.
To make up for the loss of a section of Stanley Park, millions of pounds will be pumped into the rest of the Victorian park.
Buildings, statues and fountains will be restored, gardens replanted and a new lake created to turn the park back into a destination for families.
The Grade II-listed Isla Gladstone conservatory will be transformed into north Liverpool’s version of Sefton Park’s Palm House, catering for weddings and other special events.
Once New Anfield opens in August 2010, the current ground will be bulldozed to make way for Anfield Plaza, a public square surrounded by shops, restaurants and flats.
It is highly likely to include the present Anfield pitch as its centrepiece.
A community partnership centre (CPC) will open within the stadium, housing Liverpool FC’s community development unit, an education facility and Vernon Sangster sports centre’s replacement.
The old Vernon Sangster had to make way for the new ground and has temporarily moved to Anfield youth club.
Big changes to housing and transport around Anfield are also planned.
Keith Watson, Liverpool council’s special initiatives manager, said: “Different people have come in with different ideas about the stadium, but it remains the major contributor to Anfield’s regeneration.
“After years of uncertainty, we are within touching distance of a clear statement on the future of the area and the park.
“We are still working on the basic concept for Anfield Plaza, which has outline planning permission.
“Once the stadium issues are resolved, we think the club’s owners will turn their attentions to Anfield Plaza.”
Transport bosses are working on improvements to help 60,000 fans get to the stadium for each game, an increase of 15,000 per matchday.
As well as modernising pavements and pedestrian crossings, Merseytravel is committed to the future of Soccerbus, which takes 3% of fans from railway stations to Anfield.
The organisation is also seriously investigating whether to reopen Bootle branch line, currently used by freight, to passenger trains again.
Neil Scales, chief executive of Merseytravel, said: “We have identified three potential sites for a new station and have designed one able to take vast crowds, basically like Aintree.
“It would need wide platforms and a bridge so 1,000 people could get off a train and have no problems getting to where they want to be.
“If we tied it into the network properly, you could get to Anfield directly from Wigan and St Helens, and most importantly Lime Street.”
IC Liverpool
This has been long awaited by the local community and the wider city. It's great to finally hear some positive news regarding anfield. Does this mean though that no regeneration will happen until the stadium is finished, or can some of it begin when the stadium starts being built?
Anfield has had a small Flickr update; It was in need of one I think!
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1281/...898c2987_o.jpg
Stanley Park Avenue South
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1309/...3add6f1f_o.jpg
Utting Avenue
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1027/...9252d1ef_o.jpg
Pinehust Avenue
Theres 20 other images from around Anfield for your viewing pleasure.
Enjoy! :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Very nice photos :)
It is nice down Pinehurst ave.
Thanks Lindylou! I must admit, that image of Pinehust Avenue is one of the best I've taken this year. Hoping others will like it too!Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
Nice piccies Wallasey :handclap:
great photos Wallasey, that one of Pinehurst Ave is a good one:PDT11
I,ll second, third and fourth that, lovely photos of a lovely place where lovely people live.:hug:
those kids who killed that young lad in everton this week need hanging .when is this goverment going to do something ,,bring back the bobby on the beat
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I noticed yesterday the graded buildings by the Cabbage Hall are covered in netting - - I hope they are not going to demolish them
as far as I know they are Grade 2 listed and date back to 1700's I think.
Isn't it the original Cabbage Hall ??
Will post a picture soon - I 've got one somewhere.
I did hear a rumour that they were going to develop the site into apartments - looks like this is going to happen.
Surely they won't pull down that building ?? - because under the render which covers the frontage there is the original sandstone, which I believe can be seen from the back too. They could make the existing building into apartments without demolition.
ps,
look on page 3 of this thread, (post no. 44) the 1st attachment is a pic of the building in question.
The one with the white render.
Are they actually on Breck Road?Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
If so, they're not Listed (unless they've been Listed in the last couple of years).
This is all there is for Breck road:
* April 14, 1975 II Breck Road Church of Holy Trinity
* April 14, 1975 II Breck Road L5 Richmond Baptist Church
I think I'll make this my signature:
"Never assume a building is Listed, because it probably isn't."
I remember that story abot those buildings being in the Echo quite a while back. I thought they were grade two, looks like now they are Lew Grade instead.
I can't say for sure but I did hear that they are listed. Could be wrong. They are very old anyway. As far as I understand - this was the original Cabbage Hall Inn.Someone just told me that they spoke to the workmen and the building is to be demolished :shock:
I can't imagine Breck rd without those buildings :sad:
Have a look at the attachment - although the bays are not on the existing building, you can see the general shape hasn't changed and the chimmney pots are the same.
Someone scanned this pic to me - don't know the source of the pic - but I just want to show you the old Cabbage Hall.
I don't think the present buildings are the same as the drawing.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
The two blocks are obviously from the same period.
At a rough guess, I'd say not much earlier than the 1840s.
Having said all that, I don't know much about the Cabbage Hall area.