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12-02-2008
Max

I disapprove of men only bars, women only with exceptions I don't mind.
12-04-2008
redjed1

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdseye

Yes, that's the one. Can't for the life of me think of why they barred women though. It's not as if they got up to anything there. Just old blokes smoking pipes and playing dominoes. When I was working in town, I used to go into The Cracke for a pint at dinner time and that was men only as well. Wonder if there were any others in Liverpool.
Funny thing was my daughters and their friends thought having men only and women only bars was a good idea and it should have been kept going. I had to point out to them that it was women who campaigned to have the rules changed.

I think the Black Horse, next to Walton church, had a men-only bar - on the right as you went through the main door. We used to go into the back bar, along with the monks in brown robes (:shock:).
12-04-2008
birdseye

Yes, you're right. I lived in Walton for a couple of years after getting married and I used to go into the Black Horse with my father in law. The bit you were referring to had a curtain that was pulled across whenever meetings were held there. We always used to go to the public bar through the door next to the church wall. It was like a mortuary in there but they served a cracking pint of Whitbread Trophy bitter.
04-26-2009
Cadfael

Redesigned the website and added a good few more pictures and information.

www.childwall.info

(plus a 'donate' section under the 'about me' page) :PDT_Piratz_26::PDT_Aliboronz_24:
10-10-2009
Cadfael

Added a couple of new vid's:

From the top of the tower:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdYL4eVmZw

And the interior of the church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2v_LEaQLLg
10-10-2009
hmtmaj

Very good Cadfael, I like it :PDT11
10-10-2009
pablo42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadfael

Added a couple of new vid's:

From the top of the tower:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdYL4eVmZw

And the interior of the church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2v_LEaQLLg

Nice one Cadfael.
11-07-2009
Cadfael

Now updated with new pics:

http://www.childwall.info/
11-08-2009
ChrisGeorge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadfael

Now updated with new pics:

http://www.childwall.info/

Very fine, Cadfael! :handclap:

Chris
11-08-2009
hmtmaj

Superb Cadfael :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
11-08-2009
Cadfael

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Originally Posted by hmtmaj

Superb Cadfael :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Just lost half a morning looking at your superb website!!

Here's a picture of St Oswald's from the top of Childwall tower:

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03-19-2010
Ged

One for Cad though you may have it already.

Childwall Cross in 1956. Over the wall and down t'hill to Jackson's pond with pirate adventures on rafts and frog spawn in ya jam jar. From the Liverpool Echo archives.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/653...s1956lecho.jpg

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03-19-2010
RonnieW

I remember that cross. It was incorporated on the school badge of Gateacre Comprehensive, but on the badge it resembled a Celtic cross.
03-19-2010
wsteve55

Any pic's of Jackson's pond,Ged? (or chinese lions!:unibrow:)
03-19-2010
ItsaZappathing

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieW

I remember that cross. It was incorporated on the school badge of Gateacre Comprehensive, but on the badge it resembled a Celtic cross.

Does a celtic cross have anything to do with a being Proddy or a catholic?
03-19-2010
ItsaZappathing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ged

One for Cad though you may have it already.

Childwall Cross in 1956. Over the wall and down t'hill to Jackson's pond with pirate adventures on rafts and frog spawn in ya jam jar. From the Liverpool Echo archives.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/653...s1956lecho.jpg

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Nice one Ged.:PDT11
03-19-2010
Cadfael

Utterly fantastic Ged! Not seen a copy of this at all. I was convinced that there WAS a seat going around the wall from my early memories but wasn't sure - this proved the fact!

Bit of info about the cross here:

http://www.childwall.info/#/childwall-tour-2/4531950993
03-19-2010
Cadfael

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Any pic's of Jackson's pond,Ged? (or chinese lions!:unibrow:)

Try this:

Attachment 14192
03-19-2010
wsteve55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadfael

Try this:

Attachment 14192

Wow,thanks a lot Cad,I've been looking for a pic' like that for ages! Some old guy told me about it,and how he,and his mates made a raft to sail to the island in the middle of it,when he was a kid!We tried finding it,but only found Jackson's pond rd,on a new housing development,so guessed it was long gone!(filled in due to a drowning?) Sadly,the guy concerned has passed on!
03-19-2010
Cadfael

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Wow,thanks a lot Cad,I've been looking for a pic' like that for ages! Some old guy told me about it,and how he,and his mates made a raft to sail to the island in the middle of it,when he was a kid!We tried finding it,but only found Jackson's pond rd,on a new housing development,so guessed it was long gone!(filled in due to a drowning?) Sadly,the guy concerned has passed on!

Aye me mum and her sister and two brothers (Challinor surname) used to play in and around that area when they were kids. It's now just a field which is still boggy in the middle.

Another pic here:

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03-19-2010
RonnieW

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

Does a celtic cross have anything to do with a being Proddy or a catholic?

That's a bit complicated mate. I've read the Celtic cross was originally based on the pre-Christian Sun Wheel and was incorporated into the RC Church by early missionaries arriving in the British Isles. Some C of E churches have a cross and others don't and some C of E people wear a cross and others don't. Most non-conformists don't have crosses.
Gateacre was a state school, so I would think the cross appeared on the badge just because it was a local land mark and not because of any denominational significance. The badge also had two doves, one on either side of the cross, which represented a dovecote. I wouldn't know where any dovecotes might have been around that area though.
03-19-2010
wsteve55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadfael

Aye me mum and her sister and two brothers (Challinor surname) used to play in and around that area when they were kids. It's now just a field which is still boggy in the middle.

Another pic here:

Attachment 14194

Bernie Cass,was the old guy's name,probably a bit before your time! It's amazing how quickly these things are forgotten, like the lake/pond by Picton clock!
03-19-2010
ItsaZappathing

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieW

That's a bit complicated mate. I've read the Celtic cross was originally based on the pre-Christian Sun Wheel and was incorporated into the RC Church by early missionaries arriving in the British Isles. Some C of E churches have a cross and others don't and some C of E people wear a cross and others don't. Most non-conformists don't have crosses.
Gateacre was a state school, so I would think the cross appeared on the badge just because it was a local land mark and not because of any denominational significance. The badge also had two doves, one on either side of the cross, which represented a dovecote. I wouldn't know where any dovecotes might have been around that area though.

Thanx for the explanation. Much appreciated.:PDT11
03-20-2010
Ged

How spooky. At the big history festival today, I overheard a chap asking Ken Rogers from the Echo (who i'd just been speaking to regarding his forthcoming book about the history of the district of Everton) about Jackson's pond. Apparently, a relation of his is a maritime painter but painted one of Jackson's pond some time ago and has been searching for a photo of it without luck for yonks. Needless to say, he was duly directed to the forum with it all. :)
03-20-2010
wsteve55

Weird eh! (but no sign of any lions?)
03-20-2010
ItsaZappathing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ged

How spooky. At the big history festival today, I overheard a chap asking Ken Rogers from the Echo (who i'd just been speaking to regarding his forthcoming book about the history of the district of Everton) about Jackson's pond. Apparently, a relation of his is a maritime painter but painted one of Jackson's pond some time ago and has been searching for a photo of it without luck for yonks. Needless to say, he was duly directed to the forum with it all. :)

Nice one Ged.:PDT11
03-21-2010
wsteve55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ged

How spooky. At the big history festival today, I overheard a chap asking Ken Rogers from the Echo (who i'd just been speaking to regarding his forthcoming book about the history of the district of Everton) about Jackson's pond. Apparently, a relation of his is a maritime painter but painted one of Jackson's pond some time ago and has been searching for a photo of it without luck for yonks. Needless to say, he was duly directed to the forum with it all. :)

Ged,just wondered if he mentioned anything about why the pond (looks more like a lake to me!) was drained?
03-21-2010
Cadfael

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsteve55

Ged,just wondered if he mentioned anything about why the pond (looks more like a lake to me!) was drained?

Quite simply - health and safety! While there wasn't a single known (major) problem of anyone falling in, the council didn't want to hold the upkeep of it all and simply filled it in. They didn't do a very good job as that area is still very wet to this day.
03-23-2010
Cadfael

History of Childwall website has been updated and redesigned - www.childwall.info
06-14-2011
Cadfael

I've finally put the finishing touches to the new look website - www.childwall.info
06-14-2011
GNASHER

Great site,lots of info,thanks.
06-16-2011
Ged

When trawling through the LRO online catalogue, I came across this entry under buses relating to the Slaveys mile in Childwall.

http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dser...7%29&dsqPos=38
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06-16-2011
Cadfael

Thanks Ged. Seen that one before but still a good one to see. There are some lovely views of Rocky Lane in the Village Liverpool book of paintings, literally looks like a different world away to what we have now!
06-16-2011
ChrisGeorge

Hi Cadfael

As an expert on Childwall what do you think about that supposed incident regarding the servants and slaves in Rocky Lane? It sounds a bit iffy to me but you may know better.

Thanks

Chris
06-19-2011
Cadfael

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge

Hi Cadfael

As an expert on Childwall what do you think about that supposed incident regarding the servants and slaves in Rocky Lane? It sounds a bit iffy to me but you may know better.

Thanks

Chris

Expert? Moi? Naaaaa but thanks all the same! In all the research I've done on Childwall, I've never come across a description for Rocky Lane like the Council have given it. It's certainly an old road, showing on the 1849 map I have. I am convinced that the name is original for the road seeing as there was a Rock Cottage at the top of Rocky Lane.

Here's an interesting picture sourced:

http://memoriamea.blogspot.com/2008/04/rocky-lane.html
06-19-2011
ChrisGeorge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadfael

Expert? Moi? Naaaaa but thanks all the same! In all the research I've done on Childwall, I've never come across a description for Rocky Lane like the Council have given it. It's certainly an old road, showing on the 1849 map I have. I am convinced that the name is original for the road seeing as there was a Rock Cottage at the top of Rocky Lane.

Here's an interesting picture sourced:

http://memoriamea.blogspot.com/2008/04/rocky-lane.html

Many thanks, Cadfael. I think you do yourself a disservice in not accepting the accolade that you are an expert on Childwall, ha ha.

I will have to see if I can get a copy of that interesting postcard. I am a collector of postcards and have a number of Merseyside postcards in my collection.

Chris
10-28-2011
hmtmaj

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Another pic of Jackson's Pond - sent to me by bernie Entwistle

Mart
10-28-2011
prenton01

Cracking read going through this thread and some great pics , i moved to Childwall 10 years ago and the Abbey is now my local pub. I have a postcard of the Abbey when there was just fields no houses in the 1800's will post up when i get home from work in a few weeks
01-05-2012
Tippo

Hi Chaps,
I'm sorry I'm in a hurry to get out to visit a freind in hospital
so not had time to go through all the threads.
but was wondering if theres anyting about the building going up
in the cemetery of Childwall church. and the removal of some graves.

Cheer's,

Tippo.
01-05-2012
Cadfael

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippo

Hi Chaps,
I'm sorry I'm in a hurry to get out to visit a freind in hospital
so not had time to go through all the threads.
but was wondering if theres anyting about the building going up
in the cemetery of Childwall church. and the removal of some graves.

Cheer's,

Tippo.

It's all here on my website: www.savechildwallchurch.info

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Any chance you can get permission for me to use on my website mart? Cracking picture!!

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