Alright Paul. There seems to be a bit of kerfuffle going on so I've come over to wind a few of you up and check out whats going on over here. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
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Alright Paul. There seems to be a bit of kerfuffle going on so I've come over to wind a few of you up and check out whats going on over here. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
Alright B4mmy you wont get any hassle over here were more mellow on yoliverpool.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:Quote:
Originally Posted by b4mmy
Speak for yourself Paul!
Alright B4mmy, yeh big ***** *** **** *********!!!
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Hi b4mmy, cheers for your support and signing up. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by b4mmy
Meanwhile, another day passes and good news for Central Village it seems:
THE £160m scheme to create a village in the heart of Liverpool is set to be given the go-ahead within days.
It has been hailed as one of Liverpool's biggest regeneration schemes, centred around Central Station and Bold Street.
Despite strong objections to the so-called Central Village, a revised scheme now looks almost certain to be given the go ahead at next Tuesday's meeting of Liverpool City Council's Planning Committee.
A fortnight ago the planning committee, led by chairwoman Cllr Lady Doreen Jones, visited the area.
City planning officers are recommending approval of the revised development, even though objections have been lodged by neighbouring Lewis's and Rapid Hardware. The most serious objection comes from the heritage watchdog agency, CABE, the Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment.
CABE has welcomed the lower-height buildings, and considers the proposed lay-out is of merit, but says it still has fundamental concerns about the scheme.
"We do not consider that towers of this dominance are right in this location. Concerns are such that support cannot be given for this proposal," CABE officials have told the council.
Originally developers Central Regeneration proposed two landmark towers, the highest 38 storeys high but there was major opposition.
Instead, smaller towers will be built to satisfy opposition from one of the main objectors, the government heritage agency, English Heritage. They had expressed concerned about the impact of the original design on the city's famous skyline.
Revised designs were put together following meetings with the city council, Liverpool Vision, English Heritage and CABE, The Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment.
Now, the revised scheme comprises of five glazed structures, the highest 25 storeys and the others, 20 floors, two nine-storey buildings and a five-storey structure. The buildings will run parallel with Renshaw Street, and take in the site behind Lewis's, where there will be two linked residential towers.
The development will include a nine-storey, 159-bed hotel, more than 400 apartments, shops, bars and restaurants.
Neighbouring businesses and the local Area Committees are objecting to the development. The council's area committee strongly object on the grounds that the scheme represents over-development on the site.
The owners of Lewis's department store have welcomed the regeneration around Central Station area but are concerned that the new site does little to integrate with the famous store, and effectively will be "turning its back" on Lewis's.
The store owners also say the two taller buildings would have a huge impact on the sunlight entering the store, and extensive building work on the development would mean massive disruptions for the chain.
Egg Restaurant, in Newington, say that the nine storey hotel block, sited on the opposite side of Cropper Street, will be "overbearing"
City centre regeneration company Liverpool Vision said: "Quality is a key issue in this scheme. It's essential that quality is maintained in the design and the facades.
"The pedestrian link to Central Station is essential connecting the development to the main retail area via the station and Clayton Square. The regeneration success of the scheme depends on this access being delivered."
English Heritage has now dropped its previous objection.
This is great news. I don't care about the previous proposal anymore. This is going to make a huge difference to the area- 5 very large buildings, excellent public realm, new uses bringing people into the area and increasing activity, and connections between Renshaw and Bold St. This will make a massive world of difference to the city centre. Nobody should underestimate that.
20 and 25 storey buildings are not remotely small when you're stood at the foot of them. These may not be massive scrapers, but that doesn't bother me one jot. Hopefully the facades will be of a very high standard.
Get it built. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Todays the big day.......................
You buying the drinks to celebrate it.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
IT WAS APPROVED!!:celb (23):Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
I've just heard its been given approval :PDT_Aliboronz_24::PDT_Piratz_26:
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Originally Posted by Bunnyman
Disgusting language :D
Yes it was approved with only one objection! Another chap put his name down for objection but after the presentation he changed his mind which says a great deal about the so far unpublicised details on the scheme.
Its great news for everyone. The end of an extremely long and difficult application.
It has always baffled me why this scheme was so difficult to bring to the city. It's wider implications for employment and regeneration are as significant as any in Liverpool for many years. The principle of revitalisation, using world class architects in Woods Bagot, and the even more famous Landscape practice Martha Schwartz is a fantastic asset to Liverpool's portfolio. The landscape scheme is safe and it will be a landmark and icon for the city centres night life, retail and leisure industries.
I am so incredibly happy for Liverpool that this scheme has finally reached this conclusion.
It's true that a sacrifice was made on the tower, but the tower was not the most significant part of the project. As a whole this development is massive! It will be built in phases, but when its complete Liverpool will be buzzing all the way from the docks right to end of Bold Street. I'm really happy, :celb (23): and its great news.
Now for the hard part.
That's sound b4mmy, now we can all sit back and watch it grow :) - A Beer in The Central anyone?:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Has there been a approximate date for work to begin?
It's gonna be as soon as the legal stuff is tied up I guess. Building regs need drawing up, issues with network rail resolving, assurances to Lewis's and possibly Rapid.... I don't know how much more other stuff. I reckon it should have started by the end of the year, next springtime.... just a guess. There'll be some pr out soon, I think the BBC are looking for stuff to put out, but its best to keep an eye on things like Estates Gazette and local press to be honest. The BBC will probably interpret it as some commie camp site going on past performance...
Cheers :PDT_Aliboronz_24:Quote:
Originally Posted by b4mmy
A Great Result I can't wait.:celb (23):
WASTELAND by Liverpool's Central Station will be transformed into a £160m shopping, residential and leisure development after city planners passed the contentious Central Village scheme yesterday. more
Wahey, a tower of shopping and Leisure.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
A GLEAMING cluster of glass towers behind Liverpool's Central station will let "the 18th century meet the 21st century", a developer has claimed.
Councillors were told yesterday that the £160m Central Village complex will bring a long-forgotten section of the old Victorian rail interchange back to life.
They backed a long-awaited plan to build two towers, a hotel and two apartment blocks on the derelict site, currently hidden behind shops on Bold Street and Renshaw Street.
And they praised a futuristic shallow waterfall, culminating in a "wall of 1,000 pipes", which will run through a public square.
Lady Doreen Jones, planning committee chairman, said: "I have been on numerous visits to this site over the years, and I think this scheme is superb.
"The water feature is really exciting, and I much prefer it to the fountain in Williamson Square. "At last, something will be done to this site and I look forward to it being completed."
Developers Merepark and Ballymore drafted in Chicago-based architect Stephan Reinke to design Central Village.
He told the committee:
"This is an opportunity for old to meet new, for the 18th century to meet the 21st century.
"Liverpool is full of rich history and we should draw from those clues.
"At the moment, Church Street ends with nothing. This is a chance for a landmark building that tells people this is the end of their journey."
The two 25 and 20-storey towers, nicknamed "Tracy and Hepburn" after Hollywood legends Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn, will house offices, shops and apartments.
A staircase will link Central Village to the station, which will be given a facelift to update its ageing facilities.
The scheme had previously proposed a 38-floor skyscraper, which was scrapped amid fears it would overshadow the nearby historic Rope Walks district.
As a result, it has now won crucial support from English Heritage, which was unhappy with the original idea.
At yesterday's meeting, the plan was opposed by local historian Florence Gersten, from the Save Our City campaign.
She said: "It is a great pity the development of this site has been left to the era of high-rise monoliths.
"The resulting effect on the city's skyline will not go away during our lifetimes or those of generations to come."
Work should start on the two towers and hotel in early 2007, with the entire complex completed over four years.
nick.coligan@liverpool.com
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I starting to like the look of this already,going on this picture from the echo.
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Thanks to B4mmy we have this wonderful render.:celb (23): :celb (6):
Alright fellas
Pleased this has now been resolved. I have always been pissed off that the 2nd proposal got the knock back but am warming to the idea. It's a massive project and a massive investment that is great news. **** loads of jobs and will transform a virtually unknown part of town.
Still hate the interferring *****s though.
...a part of town that has always been the same ever since i was born, welcome Richie :PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Well that shows it fits in well.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
Cheers for the welcome Kev
no probs :PDT_Aliboronz_24:Quote:
Originally Posted by richie1878
This development will be great for that part of the city as it will just bring everyting together; that is all the Paradise Street and the Lime Street Gateway work.
One problem though, which I am unsure will be resolved, Central Station is the main station for the retail centre of the city. Consequently it is very busy and is infact running over capacity. Now, do these plans take a possible upgrade/expansion of Central Station into consideration?
THE developers behind the £160m Central Village scheme in Liverpool have acquired
additional sites in nearby Bold Street to "book-end" the huge project.
Merepark and Ballymore have acquired 21-25 Bold
Street from Legal and General for an undisclosed sum, as part of a plan to enhance the experience at the 600,000 sq ft Central Village
scheme.
Plans for the two-storey building include opening up the interior and adding another floor as well as giving the exterior a modern glass
frontage.
The building is currently occupied by Greggs, Eddie Rocket's and Resurrection who will continue to trade as normal. The Subway site on the
corner of Newington and Bold Street, which will provide pedestrian access directly into Central Village's public square, has also been acquired.
Merepark
director Richard Peel said: "Our aspiration is to continue the momentum being generated in the Bold Street area and these acquisitions will help us to do
that."Enhancing these gateways will connect Central Village with Bold Street's more established retail offer."
Merepark and Ballymore added the former
Wades furniture store at 9-19 Bold Street, which backs onto the Central Village site, to its portfolio at the end of 2005.
This has now been refurbished
into three retail units - home to fashion retailer Drome and Costa Coffee. American bar chain Telo has also confirmed a 15,000 sq ft letting.
Work is
expected to start in early 2007 on the 25-storey tower and a 20-storey mid-rise building, nicknamed Spencer and Hepburn, after
film legends Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn. Two nine-storey and one five-storey buildings will sit alongside.
The development will be phased
over four years.
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Wow,:celb (23): how good is Liverpool
going to look.
Now we are talking, thats beautiful!! Fingers crossed it starts soon, unless there's a public enquiry into something orQuote:
Originally Posted by Paul
D;21735
other!!! Any start date?
Fabulous ! :celb (23):
The city centre looks nicer always at
night on picture.
Early next year andQuote:
Any start date?
it's scheduled to finish in 2011.
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This in my opinion is one of the best developments happening here at the moment,I can't wait for them to get on site and get this one moving.
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More renders courtesy of Bammy.
They sort of remind me of the Unity tower but without the cuboid penthouse on the top.
One of the benefits (?) of getting older is that you remember earlier schemes that never got past the planning stage.
Round about 1969 there were plans for a new cinema behind Central Station, and there have been other schemes since.
I love the first tall glass tower, but I'm not so keen on the two smaller replacements.
I never was keen on Unity right from the start when the first drawings appeared in "Your Move" (but I love the Beethams).
how do you feel about the Unity now it's up?
I've said it before, so it's no secret, but I think the Atlantic Tower Hotel still looks better than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes
Having said that, now that they are completely finished (I think) I'll look at them again.
I always like the Atlantic Tower, it was the best designed hotel of that era, would you believe though that people complained at the time that it didn't fit in with the rest of the area. :037:
Birse are fixing the walls before work gets under way on Central Village.
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