Thanks Nancy.
By the way I put some comments to your people festival picture, which I believe was the Lime Street event startin Wah, Aswad and the High Five was I correct?
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Thanks Nancy.
By the way I put some comments to your people festival picture, which I believe was the Lime Street event startin Wah, Aswad and the High Five was I correct?
@Nancy, I edited the pic so it links back to your original. Try clicking on it, you should see what I mean.
Thanks for sharing your wonderful snaps:
Kev
I live for photos like this.
Nancy, Thanks for sharing. :)
I think this is a fantastic question and I think it is entirely possible that it is the same rocky outcrop given the in-fill that was dumped later in the 20th century would have extended the land further than the original headland. Could someone get a picture of the rock feature and we could compare the shots directly? Thanks in advance!
Chris
Just discovered this thread.
I love old views of Liverpool.
Is there a thread for old postcards, as I've quite a collection of Liverpool?
I think that's Dingle Point.
If so, it's still there.
The Festival Hall is on the site of Knotts Hole.
That picture is class. :celb (6):
Thanks for your answer, Philip, confirming what Kev and I thought. Another interesting way to compare it would be to compare a couple of old topographic maps maybe with an overlay. A project for someone handy with maps and computers. Do I hear any volunteers? :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Incidentally, I am also a collector of old postcards and have a number of the Liverpool area. I love the ones from 1900-1910 with the old stamps and handwritten greetings on them. I suppose to most collectors they probably value the unsent ones which are probably more valuable but I get a better sense of the era from the ones that were actually used. So in other words I would be interested to see such a thread started as well.
Chris
Incidentally, I am also a collector of old postcards and have a number of the Liverpool area. I love the ones from 1900-1910 with the old stamps and handwritten greetings on them. I suppose to most collectors they probably value the unsent ones which are probably more valuable but I get a better sense of the era from the ones that were actually used. So in other words I would be interested to see such a thread started as well.
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me too!!!:)
Chris.
Comparing maps, etc., has been done, and there's no doubt that the Festival Hall is on the site of Knott's Hole, and that Dingle Point is on the other side of the new road, about half-way towards the Brittania Inn.
What has got to be established is whether the photo on this thread is Knott's Hole or Dingle Point.
I think it's Dingle Point, but I'm not 100% sure.
Going back to the top of the thread, it does say Knot Hole, so whoever named it wasn't familiar with the spelling (but could be right about the site?).
I've got old pics somewhere, which should clear it up.
What's left of Dingle Point today has been cut away somewhat, and it's rather overgrown, so it's not going to look like old pictures.
40 minutes later.
I haven't got one photo of Knott's Hole.
All I've got is the drawing from Griifiths which shows it from the land.
When you realise there were outcrops & cliffs all the way from the Herculaneum to Otterspool, it's a long stretch.
On reflection, though, if the original caption was Knot Hole (or whatever) we might as well leave it at that.
http://static.flickr.com/112/311492776_e075e321be.jpg
This is a print of where I was brought up, (may I add it was way after 1927 when I lived there).
The very top of the steps is Everton Terrace, now Everton Park.
Let's start with the Royal Liver Building.
Built 1908-11.
Architect: Walter Aubrey Thomas.
It was the tallest office building in Europe until after WW2.
The first card is - for its age - a rare real night shot.
Most night shots at the time were day-time views faked to look dark.
This card was issued by the Royal Liver Insurance Company who made sure all the lights in the building were turned on.
The rear of this card is shown.
The second card shows a view that is impossible to get today because the Cunard Building is in the way.
I love this picture and used to have it hanging in one of my old flats :D
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really great pics Phil, that first one is a rarety having all the lights switched on, I dont think you'd get one like it today.
I've been there many a time when I was a kid, I remember it having wooden benches and used to show all the cowboy films where the goodies wore the white hats and the baddies worn the black hats, that was the Saturday mattinee, there used to be about 8 kids in our little gang who went.
I'd forgotten all about that until you just mentioned it.:)
Hi Philip
Excellent place to start, Philip, with the Royal Liver Buildings. :celb (23):
Good to see these postcard views. I wanted to note here also how startling it was for me to see the Liver Buildings cleaned up and white in the Seventies after growing up in the Fifties and Sixties and being used to seeing them black!!!!
Chris
great pics phil!
Bring on some more!!!:)
This is my only picture of the Royal Liver Building - taken on the top deck of the Super Seacat coming back from the Isle of Man.
And sticking to the forum! - Postcards of Childwall.
Sod it, I'll just take over this forum :celb (23):
Very rare postcard of Sandfield Tower, West Derby (Sits on the front page of my www.gwalia.moonfruit.com website!
And Mason Street - Edge Hill - Joseph Williamson's house is above/right of the bloke's head on the horse - 2 stories of it are still standing to this day! (attached picture of same location)
Great, Jona76.
They are rare ones.
Here's 2 of Princes Avenue.
Mainly to show how they ruined good photos by colouring them.
Ancestry has a collection of old postcards but I think you need a subcription to see them
heres a few I've saved
I'll post a few more later
Mandy
makes you wonder how these postcards end up in our hands!
Built 1774-5.
It's one of the oldest churches in Liverpool although it has been closed for many years.
It was also one of the first buildings in the world to utilise cast iron.
The building on the far right is still standing.
This was a privately produced postcard and this one was posted in 1914.
That's an underground Gents' toilet in the bottom right corner.
Fantastic pic Philip!
Many thanks!
The Mounting steps in Wavertree, I had an argument with someone ages ago (A polite one of course haha) about the fact that I thought that it was steps to a style. They appear to be too warn down both sides for a few people to clamber on their horses each sunday morning?
I believe the tenements (pictured) was known as the 'Victoria Settlements'. I sailed with a guy, Arthur Bell by name, who was born and raised in one of them. Lit by gas, they had a communal toilet and wash-house at the end of each landing and only one fireplace in the "living" room. I also dated a girl, Gwen Taig, who lived in them, until her family found out that I was from Scotland Road and was Catholic. Gwen was a "King Billy" for her parents lodge (Ivy Lodge I think) one twelfth of July.
St Michael's Huyton - 6 bells - The heaviest being 400 years old!
Hi all
Just purchased by me on ebay, a postcard of the Sailors' Orphanage, Newsham Park, Liverpool, from the first decade of the twentieth century, postmark dated 1904. Any information gratefully received. Is this the same complex of buildings that became Newsham Hospital or was it a separate entity? As some of you may have seen, I posted recently that my father worked as a physiotherapist at Newsham Hospital in the early 1950's. Thanks in advance for any information on the orphanage vis a vis the hospital. Another reason that I am interested is that my maternal grandmother and one of her sisters were placed by my great grandmother in a sailors' orphanage after her husband (my great grandfather) was killed falling down the stairs aboard ship off South Africa, and it could well have been this same institution. Any information therefore on whether there was only one seamans' orphanage in Liverpool or several would be useful. Thanks.
All my best
Chris
I remember those toilets. The picture was taken from Mill St. The Flat iron pub is just off picture to the right. This 1965 picture shows the toilets. The building shown was a hostel for black African crew members of the Elder Dempster Line.
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...l%20street.jpg
I think Newsham Hospital (aka Newsham General) was another hospital, demolished in the 1980s. I may be wrong. The sailors orphanage in your postcard became Park Hospital, and still has a small reasonably modern NHS unit operating on the site. The main hospital itself is not used, but unfortunately for me is secured tight and has a resident caretaker, so I can't provide any internal photos!!
The Seaman's Orphanage opened in 1874 and was designed by Alfred Waterhouse.
It became the Park Hospital.
There had been a chapel, but that has been demolished.
Newsham General Hospital was in Belmont Road, and had been the Belmont Road Institution.