I have put my bets on....
Silver Birch @ 33/1
First Gold @ 100/1
Ballycassidy @ 100/1
Shotgun Willy @ 150/1
Just in Debt @ 100/1
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I have put my bets on....
Silver Birch @ 33/1
First Gold @ 100/1
Ballycassidy @ 100/1
Shotgun Willy @ 150/1
Just in Debt @ 100/1
Numbersixvalverde wins National
Apr 8 2006
By Dan Kay at Aintree, icNorthWest
IRISH eyes were smiling again at Aintree as 11-1 shot Numbersixvalverde edged out favourites Hedgehunter and Clan Royal to win the 2006 John Smith's Grand National.
Numbersixvalverde, last year's Irish Grand National winner, gave jockey Niall "Slippers" Madden a dream first ride over the Aintree fences and delighted successful owner Bernard Carroll, who named the horse after his Algarve holiday home and missed last year's triumph at Fairyhouse due to pre-booked holiday in Portugal.
Madden, who jumped the last fence behind Hedgehunter but stormed home by to win by six lengths said, "It's brilliant. I had a dream run the whole way round and he jumped super.
"I wasn't sure I'd won until I crossed the line though. This means everything to me. It's magic.
"I've tried to imagine winning this race since I was a boy but I couldn't.
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I respectfully request that you look at the info I have posted on the rants thread.
Thank you:sad:
Vegan, if the carnage upsets you so much why do you look? This is a question and not an invite to a flame war.
In relation to The Grand National, I believe Vegan feels passionately about animal cruelty and maybe we all need to come around to this way of thinking in relation to the grand national.
I can see the grand national reducing the size of the jumps in the next 2 years, I cannot see how it can continue when horses are being 'destroyed' - a word used by a BBC reporter yesterday.
I have been similar over issues with our fine city and its people and joined many forums, including the pete price one only to cool off after a while. I chilled out a bit, you get nowhere upsetting the apple cart and everyone is different and lives their lives in different ways. I hate with a passion, teen/ adult thuggery but thats another thread.
Anyway, I will let Vegan reply, then this thread will be locked 'till next year ;). Any future discussion about cruelty can be continued here :p
Further to this discussion Kev, we are all different.... I have been brought up on a diet of Grand Nationals, dog racing etc.... the Grand National is our heritage and will always continue.
And for Vegan, there are many, many other issues worth the extra effort... I bet there are far more instances of cruelty to children than there are animals!
I know ;) Thats what makes an exciting and diverse forum plod along.
I think Vegan has every right to reply, but as we respect others wishes and beliefs then please respect ours. it is good to believe in something but you have to accept that others may not feel the same way.
Exactly, that is called tolerance ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomie
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And for Vegan, there are many, many other issues worth the extra effort... I bet there are far more instances of cruelty to children than there are animals!
And I second that whole heartedly!.
Yes, I have to agree that Vegan has every right to her opinion, I just wish she wasn't so hard-headed about it, she leaves no room for compromise, and when a person gets to that point, I think it becomes form of stasis, and the learning curve suffers because of it.
I believe most reasonable folk hate animal cruelty, and in a small way, do what they can to stop it. For myself, I get my dogs at the S.P.C.A. and the pleasure of giving and older dog a new lease on life is beneficial to both of us. I have also been instrumental in shutting down 5 puppy mills in the region, which gives me great satisfaction, I don't scream it from the roof tops, I just go out and do it.
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Originally Posted by bobbymac
I applaud you for doing your bit to help stop animal cruelty Bobby, and its so refreshing to hear about it without getting it rammed down your throat.
Kev posted,"In relation to The Grand National, I believe Vegan feels passionately about animal cruelty and maybe we all need to come around to this way of thinking in relation to the grand national".
Here,here Kev!I applaud your integrity.
I fail to see the relavance of conjecturing about the number of human children versus the number of non-human children(puppies,kittens etc)who are abused.
The abuse of ANY living being,human animal or non-human animal is of equal concern to me because I am not speciesist.
Looking forward to next year's debate.Have a good year folks!:)
P.S http://www.greyhoundaction.co.uk/ ;)
Long Live The National:unibrow:
This section of the site is a celebration of heritage and culture. Here's to next year, hopefully without the fatalities, poor horsies.
He was a city engineer apparently, and they were first introduced at Anfield
That reminds me, the only remaining reminder of South Liverpool FC:Quote:
Originally Posted by bazzacat
http://static.flickr.com/65/164939703_c167dc10d7.jpg
Where was their ground?
The new station is built on the ground of Holly Park, Max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max
Where around is that Dave?
I know it's stating the obvious but Everton being one of the founder members of THE football league is just fantastic IMO,also Everton were the first team in World football to have played 100 years in top flight football which is some achievement.:PDT_Piratz_26:
On Football everyone mentions the Pro Clubs and the premier league and champions league,but what about the bigest under 21 league in the world this
was the Bootle Joc League on Merseyside the main grounds was on the Giro
site what a great league.It would be good to have a thread on Leagues and
Football clubs of merseyside of old.
Fergie:gossip:
:gossip: :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergie
To Paul D...
hello mate... do you think that Everton are going to have a good season, or another disaster...
Lemmo...???
The were pioneered at I think, Dingle Lane, where South Liverpool once played. I believe South Liverpool once played at Horsfall St off Grafton St, on a derelict Mersey Foundry site (what I Dad told me, who was generally right when checked things, I haven't managed to verify Horsfall St).Quote:
Originally Posted by bazzacat
The nets were first used in a proper game v Notts F. Geary of Everton was the first to hit the back of the net.
Everton played at Anfield at the time.
It was Brodie's idea to use the rock from the 1st Mersey Road Tunnel to create the prom.
South Liverpool were the first to permanently use floodlights.
Before Everton had an internal split which created Liverpool FC. The derby game was Everton vs Bootle. All the top teams had visted Merton Rd to play Bootle. Once LFC came about Bootle declined. Bootle were in the first 2nd division in 1892/3 and dropped out after one year being replaced by Liverpool FC. They once reached an FA cup quarter final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergie
Liverpool, Sheff Utd and Chelsea are the only clubs that were created with ready made ground facilities. Having Anfield certainly helped LFC.
Liverpool RUFC is the oldest open rugby club in the world.
Was'nt the Liverpool v Everton Derby the first ever televised match in Britain ?
No. 1935. Arsenal v EvertonQuote:
Originally Posted by FKoE
that was the first match of the day one wasnt it?Quote:
Originally Posted by FKoE
or the first game televised in colour, its one of them
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Originally Posted by Waterways
But the BBC was only broadcast in 1935 to the greater London area, so thats a myth, innit?
Lets say it was the first match televised TO Britain ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis
this was covered by boards this morning,ah south liverpool!it's a knockout was there in the 70's and also 10p a pint on a monday night and the famous cage from the ceiling in the late 80's,happy days:celb (6):Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
And Liverpool and Everton, were'nt they also the first teams to come out of the tunnel TOGETHER ?
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by FKoE
Irrespective of area covered, it was the first live televised football game.Quote:
Originally Posted by FKoE
But only in London ...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
1946 Liverpool FC's Jack Chalmer becomes the first player to score three consecutive hat-tricks.
1935: First match broadcast live on TV was Asenal v Everton. Football clips had been on TV before this but they were taken from film and not live.Quote:
Originally Posted by FKoE
1964: Liverpool were in the first Match of the Day highlights programme. Arssenl v Liverpool on BBC2, only to the London area. Highlights of FA cup games had previously been broadcast in previous years, so the Arsenal v Liverpool game broke no records.
1967: Charity Shield match between Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur was the fisrt colour game to be shown (highlights).
1968: The first colour game broadcast entirely live was the Everton v West Brom FA Cup Final.
Everton figure in the first two entirely live games: in black and white and in colour.
That has cleared that one up.
Oooh google .... so your first televised game was actually the first in ENGLAND .... are you following ? , probably not!