Interesting fact is that Kev is really from Wavertree being born in the old hospital that is now Asda.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
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Interesting fact is that Kev is really from Wavertree being born in the old hospital that is now Asda.:Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Sounds right that CGQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
Yep. Dionne Warwick had success in the United States, but wasn't released here. Most people had never heard of the Dionne Warwick's version.
Cilla Black had a hit with That Lovin Feelin and it charted at the same time as the Righteous Brothers version. Both in the top 5 I think at the same time.
Dionne Warwick was peeved about it. You can't blame her.
Dionne Warwick's voice is one of the all-time greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
My Mum always had a preference for uptempo music and she could knock out a mean boogie woogie on the piano we had in the parlour of our house in Hughes St! (just thought of a new thread!) However, one her favourite songs was The Righteous Brothers You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
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Ernie Shavers the man who in 1977 went 15 punishing rounds with Muhammad Ali at Madison Square Garden, New York, now works a couple of nights a week on the door at Yates' Wine Lodge in Queen Square, Liverpool.
You're kidding! Wow, I never knew that. He was a cracking boxer. Deffo have to get a pic of him. Nice one Paul:PDT_Aliboronz_24:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
BTW, did you know John H Stracey lives on Wirral? I only found out a couple of months back when I was chatting to Ricky Tomlinson's agent who does a bit of work for him.
Dave he's really pleasant he holds the door open for you and everything which to me feels a bit mad considering who he is,if you're lucky enough to see him don't forget to post your pictures here.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
When Wayne Rooney and Francis Jeffers led the line for England in a friendly a couple of years back they become the first strikers to play for an England team at the same time having attended the same school,that school was De La Salle in Croxteth.
Another footballing first.
Talking of which I caught somewhere that Wayne Rooney is from Toxteth. So should he be in the Famous Scousers from Toxteth thread? Or did the person who thought that have Croxteth mixed up with Toxteth?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
Chris
Yes it's definitely Croxteth,they done a whole documentary on him once banging on about his poor upbringing and the Toxteth riots etc and he's not even from there.:rolleyes: just another excuse to show Liverpool in a bad light in my opinion.:disgust:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
Everton de Viña del Mar, is a Chilean football club based in the city of Viña del Mar. The club was founded June 24, 1909 (named after Everton F.C. of England) and plays in the first division of the Chilean football league. Their home games are played at the Sausalito stadium, which has a capacity of approximately 25,000 seats.
There is a Liverpool FC in Urguguay. They were named after several English teams toured there and it was decided to opt for Liverpool as like Montevideo it was a port. They play in black and blue stripes at the 8000 capacity Belvedere stadium.
I didn't know that Ste nice one it was inevitable there would be one somewhere.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by SteH
Whereas Everton are one of the major clubs in Chile Liverpool are very much in the shadow of the 2 Uruguayan giants of Nacional and Penarol. They havent won a thing in the history.
Like GP the stadium has held a world cup semi-final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
"Vina" is a suburb of Valparaiso. I have watched Everton (The Rouleteiros) play O'Higgins and a local derby against Wanderers of Valparaiso. I love the stadium, small but, if the game gets boring the views from the stands are fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
I have also watched Liverpool play Danubio and the team from Fray Bentos (forgot it's name) in Uruguay.
Hi all
There are a number of football teams in Australia named after Liverpool. For example in New South Wales alone, there is:
Liverpool Albion
Liverpool Bossy
Liverpool City
Liverpool Olympic
Liverpool United
See http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Clubs/ClubIndex.html#L for more info and links.
Chris
Bob Marley's dad was an Army Captain from Liverpool.
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Originally Posted by christy
Dionne Warwick is a world wide mega star, known and appreciated throughout the world and her recordings were released in Britain. Cilla is almost totally unknown outside of the UK. Dionne has appeared on UK tv in variety and talk shows, I have never heard of Cilla doing the same on any North American tv (but I could have missed her).Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
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Originally Posted by christy
Interesting to hear! Thanks, Christy. According to Wikipedia, "His father, Norval Sinclair Marley, was a white Jamaican born in 1895 to British parents from Sussex. Norval was a Marine officer and captain." A separate entry on Norval Sinclair Marley confirms the Sussex connection but denies any Welsh one. A BBC page on the possible Welsh link, quotes Chris Marley as saying that Norval Marley, born in Jamaica to a family from Sussex "travelled from Jamaica to England where he joined the British Army on 14 August 1916 at Liverpool." So possibly that is where the Liverpool connection comes in?
Chris
Hi SloyneQuote:
Originally Posted by Sloyne
I think it is true to say that Cilla enjoyed some mild success in the United States as well as elsewhere in the world as part of Brian Epstein's stable of stars in the early to mid Sixties, although in recent decades she has been mostly a British star.
Chris
Apparently she was invited over many times, but never went.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
Hi Waterways
Cilla made US TV appearances, including the Ed Sullivan Show, performed a 1965 cabaret season at the Plaza Hotel in New York, and had a minor U.S. hit with "You're My World".
Chris
The word I would use is "tepid", and that was only in the sixties. The "elsewhere" would be Australia, New Zealand and South Africa due, obviously, to the large UK ex-pat immigrant groups. Canada, dominated as it is by the US media with it's attendant culture, had very little exposure to UK secondary performers. I have lived in North America for forty years and prior to emigrating had been visiting, every seventeen days, since 1956 and I am a Scouserphobe and can attest to the previously mentioned fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
By-the-way, I am a fan of Cilla and knew her personally while growing up.
Despite what Sloyne says, Cilla was not secondary in the 60s. She had her own prime time TV show, "Cilla", and all the visting US mega stars were on doing duets with Cilla. When she was massive in the Commonwealth she had no need to go to the US - and they did ask her over. She had been invited to top chat shows but turned them down. Cilla could have been very big over there if she had done the obligatory tours.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
Name some?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Another thing, for any performer, the US is 'THE' market. There is not one performer, of any nationality, that does not aspire to "making it big" in the US entertainment industry because, as they say, "that's where it's at". Any performer who tells you different is probably lying. The oposite is quite true, a number of US performers had no interest or refused to perform in the UK. Sinatra and Presley were just two notables in this group.
According to her fan club web site, the only recording of Cilla's that made the charts in the US was "Your my world".
Sinatra played London regularly. Elvis was scared after the Beatles wiped him out and never went to the UK. Elvis hated leaving the south never mind leaving the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloyne
Yep. Cilla wasn't that interested in making the US when all was fine where she was. She was never short of a few shillings.Quote:
According to her fan club web site, the only recording of Cilla's that made the charts in the US was "Your my world".
The US is not where it is at in a global market. The UK controls the world music scene - the artists and the business.
Sorry, I should have clarified, "other than the London Paladium".Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
And the Albert Hall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloyne
That's because he was Francis Albert Hall Sinatra. :celb (23):Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
But you still haven't answered my first question, which is; What US talk shows did Cilla turn down? Waterways, Cilla is virtualy unknown in North America, Dionne Warwick is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
I don't know. I was reading it once. It wasn't recently. 80s, 90s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloyne
As a Cilla fan, and personal friend, I am pleased for her success and wish her every further success in the future, however, and contrary to your assertions, Cilla is a virtual unknown in North America. it is to our loss, I'm sure but, wishing otherwise doesn't make it so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
I wasn't saying she is well known. She was in the 1960s and even had a hit record. Cilla was not that interested in the slog to make it big there. She did that stint at the NY hotel but never liked staying there. She wasn't interested in subsequent tours, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloyne
I'm sorry I mentioned Cilla now.:ninja:
Cilla had one recording that entered the US charts but never made it into the top five. That song was "Your my World". Understandable when you know that Cilla's competition was Dionne Warwick, who recorded mostly the same material, Burt Baccharach and Hal David music. Dusty Springfield was more of a success, in the US, than was Cilla yet, she was a virtual unknown in this market. No Waterways, wishing for something doesn't make it so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
I think Vera Lynn was the first popular trans-Atlantic star, being very popular with UK based GI's, but even she didn't make it big in the US. Understandable when you consider the competition, competition like Helen O'Connel, Judy Garland, Jo Stafford, Patti Page, Doris Day, Lena Horne, Rosey Clooney, Ella Fitzgerald, etc. I think the first British female singer to make it big in the US was the Cardiff born singer Shirley Bassey.
Dusty Springfield's success was after Cilla's 1965 stint. Very late 1960s/early 1970s. The white Queen of Soul. In the mid 1960s she was still with the Springfields.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloyne
No. Lilly Langtree in the 1800s. The world's first superstar.Quote:
I think Vera Lynn was the first popular trans-Atlantic star,
Vera Lynn was a very different singer than all those. More like your Ma singing.Quote:
being very popular with UK based GI's, but even she didn't make it big in the US. Understandable when you consider the competition, competition like Helen O'Connel, Judy Garland, Jo Stafford, Patti Page, Doris Day, Lena Horne, Rosey Clooney, Ella Fitzgerald, etc.
The second. To make it big in the US in those days, you have to do the tours and TV shows, etc, otherwise nothing at all - Dusty was resident in the USA. Cilla didn't do it. If the Stones had not toured constantly in the US they would never have been as big as they are. You have to follow their system.Quote:
I think the first British female singer to make it big in the US was the Cardiff born singer Shirley Bassey.