Hi Kev,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
the one in Dazza's recent post,is in Otterspool!
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Hi Kev,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
the one in Dazza's recent post,is in Otterspool!
Hi Kev, it serves the Liverpool Central/ Hunts Cross line. The railway track is mostly excavated embankment as it cuts through the Dingle [see map below], but where it crossed Dingle glen, it formed a bridge with arches beneath - as shown on the earlier photograph. [I've marked the site with a 'red' ellipse on the map below].Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
I think the bridge still exists, but has been lost to view, as the corpy back-filled the ground around it up to the level of the present day track.
Daz
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...DingleTEST.jpg
1908 OS map, LRO.
cheers :)
I'm very impressed by Dazza's attention to detail, so much so that I've joined this forum as, sometimes, I might be able to add something.
The name "Dingle Glen" never existed.
It's only ever been called "The Dingle".
The top of the bridge is visible, just a few yards from the mouth of the tunnel.
It can be seen from the train.
And probably with a good zoom lens from St Michaels Station.
Looking in the opposite direction to the map - towards the river. The bridge can be seen. The track enters the tunnel, right.
http://i50.tinypic.com/hupr8y.jpg
Thanks Quentin, and welcome to the forum. You pay me too big a complement, as I'm also learning new things here on Yo! But thanks all the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quentin_Sharples
"Dingle Glen" as you rightly point out doesn't feature on the maps, or anywhere else for that matter. So far, I've only found one reference to it, in Robert Griffiths' book, The History of the Royal and Ancient Park of Toxteth, Liverpool, writing in 1907. I have since heard "Dingle Dell" - and "Dingle Days" being referred to, as the days in which the misses Yates would allow public access to The Dingle.
The bridge. I did wonder whether it still existed [albeit, in some subterranean form?] Thanks for the confirmation. I'll take some photos of the bridge top-side, next time I'm in the area.
I hope you enjoy your time here at Yo!
Hello QuentinQuote:
Originally Posted by Quentin_Sharples
Welcome to the forum.
You are right in a sense... because a "glen" and a "dingle" are the same thing, so using both words is overkill--
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/dingle
C
...I thought everyone went...Quote:
We never went to Colemendy either - none of the schools in Anfield went as far as I know. I don't know anyone who went either.
Kids in Liverpool 8 didn't go to Colemendy - well I never knew any that went. Our school never took us. That for the others not us.
I am sure it was owned by the Liverpool Schools....
Perhaps it was just certain high schools?
Essentially everyone at Quarry Bank went, and IIRC my sister at Aigburth Vale went too...
Thanks for the photo WW. I've orientated the 1906 OS map around, so that it matches the photo in scale and direction. The tunnel entrance can be seen just to the right, and the ground embankment seen on the map is still present on the photo. Also, there seems to be some ground settlement either side of the bridge.
What do you guys think?
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...077/bridge.jpg
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Originally Posted by kevin
There is a Colomendy thread somewhere here. I was at Rose Lane 1961-1964 and Quarry Bank 1964-1968.
C
...overlapped....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
I left Quarry Bank in 1965 for Liverpool University.
Colomendy (with photos) is mentioned on these threads here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/sea...archid=1231574
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I should start a new thread but is anyone else confused with the rebranding of Liverpool? I was told that Canning street was in Dingle and earlier I was trying to figure out how far I live from Otterspool and Google told me the following- Otterspool, Ellesmere Port, Merseyside, UK.
There is an Otterspool in Ellesmere Port AC.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelCake
I wonder if it's possible to report mistakes to Google? I hate to be pedantic but it's annoying that it's shown as being in Aigburth on the map but the text says different.Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
Couldn't help you there AC.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelCake
To us Dingle was from High Park St down to the Dingle. People outside would say we lived in Dingle when in reality we lived in Harrington. Canning St is Granby.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelCake
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Originally Posted by AngelCake
Check the appropriate Google Map for the Copyright in the bottom right and go to the copyright owners web site and submit a correction on the online form.
My Google Maps (in the US) seems to give Tele Atlas as the copyright holder when I pull up the Liverpool area for my sister's house (L18).
If you see the same, then go here to submit a change request...
http://mapinsight.teleatlas.com/mapfeedback/index.php
I submitted one for a road in our Tucson area with Navteq (the other major data base) - and it did cause a change after 3 or 4 months. The changes will also refelect in updated data bases for your auto GPS systems since they seem to use the same geography data bases.
It's worth filling in the form...:PDT11
The Everton sign outside Costco is laughable. It is actually Vauxhall but as a district that doesn't seem to exist. Canning might be a region to describe the Georgian Quarter but is that too recognised as a district?
Vauxhall never really existed. It was some sort of notional district. I think it was a ward only in name. I never hear anyone say, "I am going to Vauxhall". Well if Vauxhall was a district we should have had an Exchange district then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
The boundaries of Toxteth are being changed as well. With the signs at Dingle Vale. Toxteth goes right up to Aigburth Vale, where the sign was. Most of Penny Lane was in Toxteth as well.
I would never say the Eldonian village was in Everton though.
no, I wouldn't either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
I guess it depends on where you were brought up? I don't see the Canning area as separate from my part of Liverpool as they are so close. Dingle wasn't really mentioned when I was growing up but I was lost there once and called names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
I should...but I won't. Hope someone else does though?!Quote:
Originally Posted by az_gila
I've spotted more mistakes
Thank you DazQuote:
Originally Posted by dazza
Hi everyone,
Im a third year geography student at liverpool and i'm doing my dissertation on this area of the dingle and the current garden festival site. If anyone has any more photographs or information especially on the site before the festival it would be really helpfull. thanks
sarah
[QUOTE=dazza;201596]Hi guys, I thought I'd share with you some old photo's that I've collected of the Dingle area. It features Dingle glen, which was a wooded valley and natural beauty spot leading right down to the Mersey. More notoriously, it was the site of the last duel to be fought in Liverpool - between Mr Sparling, of St. Domingo house, and Mr Grayson, an eminent ship builder, on Sunday morning, 7.00am 24th February, 1804. I've also included some maps and photo's to help you get your bearings. I hope you enjoy, regards,
Daz
Daz, Just read this piece regarding duelling in Liverpool:
The last duel in Liverpool was fought in 1805 between Colonel John Bolton and Major Brooks, with Bolton emerging the winner.
John Bolton was born in Ulverston, Cumbria in 1756 and traded in the West Indies before settling in Liverpool around 1790, living at 116 Duke Street (pictured right). A staunch patriot, in 1797 he contributed £500 to a committee set up to defend Liverpool after French troops had landed at Fishguard. He then set up his own Liverpool Volunteers in 1803 at his own expense. Becoming known as the Bolton Invincibles, they trained at Mosslake Fields on the edge of the town.
In 1804 Customs Jerker Major Edward Brooks asked for an increase in his salary. Bolton, President of the West India Association refused, allegedly saying that £700 per year was more than enough for a single man to live on. Brooks challenged Bolton to a duel on 20th December at Millers Dam on Aigburth Road. Quite why he issued such a serious challenge on this a matter is not known, but coincidentally Brooks was also from Ulverston and their feud may have been long running. After a tip off, both were arrested on their way and bound over to keep the peace for 12 months.
Exactly one year later Brooks insulted Bolton at Castle Street and a challenge was arranged that afternoon. Brooks was arrested for a few hours than issued a new challenge immediately upon his release, which Bolton accepted.Darkness was falling by the time both men arrived. Brooks fired the first shot and missed. Bolton then returned fire and pierced Brooks' eye, causing instant death.
Bolton went into hiding for a short while and the inquest found him guilty of murder. However, due to public opinion being behind him and the fact he had been challenged by Brooks, he was never charged. Bolton remained in Liverpool political life until his death in 1837 and is buried in the family vault in Bowness church.
What's a "Customs Jerker"?
Hi everyone, i am currently undertaking a research project regarding the sediment history of the Liverpool International Garden Festival Site. If you would like to share your thoughts in relation to the site please follow the link below to complete a short survey.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/597WF5H
Thank you
Sarah
Shall we all take a guess ?Quote:
Originally Posted by az_gila
Sorry for being late with the reply. A Customs jerker was the officer responsible in searching for concealed items. Not much different to modern day Customs officers really.Quote:
Originally Posted by az_gila
Jerker...........never heard that word used in anything so far back. Interesting. Thanks