thanks Diane :PDT_Aliboronz_11:
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thanks Diane :PDT_Aliboronz_11:
Mandy
Looks A great site spike,will follow with interest,
Dad seved in WW2, he passed away a few years back,I wonder if all the people who served in the wars enjoy talking about their experiences,my Dad loved to watch the war time history programs i video taped for him off Sky but he never opened up about the war to me ,i had to ask questions to get a small bit of info,He told me he was a guard in a POW camp near Formby for a while and became good friends with a prisoner,Italian i think,he then landed D-DAY +5 which moved north into Belgium and Holland.he told me of meeting the dutch resistance and the awful conditions they endured,dont think he was covered by official secrets act but didnt enjoy talking about the war.
Hi Trips and welcome to the site.
Would you consider adding your dad to the site?
If so can you supply his name. do you know who he served with? have you a photo of him. you can use one in uniform or any favourite photo that you have of him.
if so pm me.
Thanks for your interest, hoping to have it online soon.
Hi Spike, I have just pmd you with a transcript of my Great Uncles letter can you tell me if you have it ?
Hi Spike,thanks for the welcome, yes will get back to you with more info and photo soon
Hi Spike, really enjoyed the photos that you have taken of Wavertee, Everton Huyton and Prescot. You have given many people such pleasure viewing them. I haven't looked at the rest, I will save them for another day.
Also the St. Anthony's site was very interesting, I think I may have found two ancestors! Must look at my family tree.
Yes it has come through :PDT11Quote:
Originally Posted by squiggs
It is very moving.
Hi Diane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane Louise
Glad you like the sites.
PM me relatives names I will look at them again for you.
I have tried in vain to find where George is buried, any ideas ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Hi Squiggs
He is buried in France
look here http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_...asualty=264896
It gives his grave number and Cemetery.
many thanks Spike, such a shame he is so far from home !, his younger brother John Henry who died a few months later is buried at Toxteth park.
Yes it is a shame that he is in France, but not impossible to get over to see him.Quote:
Originally Posted by squiggs
If you ever have the chance then go. My Grandad is in Italy and we made the trip 2 years ago to see him. So moving and it brings a kind of peace by going.
http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=1848642
Squiggs you may find this of interest, very cheap.
I dont think any of my family have ever been to see his grave !, I remember my Nan telling me that neither her or her parents had ever left the country, in fact the furthest I know my Nan went was Chester where she had a caravan.
It seems even more sad that they just have G.Williams as his full name was George James Williams, my Nan went on to have a son whom she named after her brother ,he was born in 1917 but sadly died in 1918, he is buried with her other brother John Henry who also died in WW1.
Thanks for that Spike !, I will order a copy as soon as I can shift my OH off the other computer. It will be nice to show my remaing Aunt and Uncle their Uncle's resting place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Very sad stories Squiggs.
As long as you remember him then it does not matter if he has not been visited.
The CWGC could only add they details they where given, they did and still do a fantastic job. You could try contacting them and see if they will update his details on their site, they wont alter his headstone.
My Great Grandad is listed as J.Hogan. I tried to get them to add his name as John. they said they need his birth certificate. John was born in Dublin and we are uncertain as to what John is him on the births so we cant get the certificate. I have his marriage cerificate and his army service records, but they still said No. But do ask them as they really are a great at what they do.
Squiggs
The Soldiers that died disc list him as GEORGE WILLIAMS
born, enlisted and resided in Liverpool.
Died of wounds, France and Flanders.
I cant find his Brother on the records? do you know who he served with?
Hi Squiggs
I have John Henry now, I was looking in the wrong year by mistake :PDT_Xtremez_42:
Soldiers that died have him born and enlisting in Liverpool.
died of wounds home.
also noted is that he was formerly 204272 Kings Liverpool regiment.
Thanks Spike !, John Henry is a "strange one" I have records that show he died in 1917 at home of his wounds, but he seems to have two numbers and regiments 285053 Welsh regiment, then in notes formerly of Liverpool regiment 204272, it is a bit wierd isnt it ?
I've heard before of having two numbers when changing regiments. Got two meself.Quote:
Originally Posted by squiggs
He joined up with the Kings Squiggs. It was later in the war so he was sent where he was needed, so transfered to the Welsh.
I dont know too much about this subject but he probably enlisted and trained with the Kings, and the regiment he signed for was overseas. So the Army sends him where he is needed. The Welsh where most likely getting ready to go to France and he is sent there to boost numbers.
It happened to a lot of men. Some 3 or 4 transfers.
Mystery solved !....thank you X
I've ordered the certificate & hopefully it will arrive this week :PDT_Piratz_26:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
I'm curious about the date that John Thompson Reay died as on CWGC list his death in May 1917 but the Royal Defence Corps didn't start until August 1917.......maybe I'll find out more when I get the certificate :PDT_Piratz_26:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane Louise
Spike, any idea how I can find out about this guy. I got this private message and I said I would help if I could.
all i no was e was a dessert rat was in rangoon jail for nearly 5 years is name stanly williams he is on a picture named rangoon jail and thats all i no about is record apart from the fact e was heavly scarred so much so their wasnt a inch of flesh on his back that wasnt scarred and he cum back a madman we ara all from dingle
Hi Pablo I dont know anything on this subject.
read this http://www.wartimememories.co.uk/pow/rangoon.html
My wife's great uncle was a POW in Thialand and came home in a terrible state,nearly starved to death. He had to be fed bread dipped in milk for weeks.
I am reading up about it all at the moment, but unsure where to research. I shall put it on the WW2 site and see what comes back.
http://www.pegasusarchive.org/pow/pRangoon.htm
Rangoon Jail photos
Thanks Spike, I shall go through it.
Pablo can you get a copy of the picture he is on?
I'll see what I can do.
See if they know when he died? what year if possible.
Was you a child during WW2? where you evacuated? will you tell us stories of your time in Liverpool or as an evacuee?
Do you remember the foreign soldiers being in Liverpool?
Did you witness any dog fights in the skies.
We are after any story connected to Liverpool and wartime. you can place it here or pm me or email me at hogantho@aol.com
We will credit you for the story on the site.
Please dont let your stories go untold, lets remember them all, men, women children are all welcome. What did your mam, aunty, grannie do in the war. Where your men relatives killed or serve in the war. Did they work as dockers etc.
If all you know is a name you can still add them to the site.
Get asking your older relatives what they know, tell your friends to do the same.
The site is coming along and I am working on it every day. It will go online on 11th November. The only day it could really.
So ive got two weeks to get it ready :o
But it will go online that day.
Remember you can add to the site now or after it is online.
I sent off for my Great Uncle George Williams grave photograph who died in WW1, the photograph came today along with a photograph of the cemetary, it was a very moving moment as I am the first person in my family to " see his last resting place".
Brilliant Squiggs, well done for getting the photo.
It is very moving, treasure that photo and think how much it will mean to other relatives that you show it to.
Hi PabloQuote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
I asked a few people on the ww2 forum, here are the replies.
" As far as I am aware the Far East P.O.W. Lists have never been Published.
There are lists at Kew though and the File you would need is WO 392/26.
Name Rank No., Date of Capture,date of release and the location of Last Camp is also given. "
KEW http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/r...e=ddmenu_shop3
" I have a friend who is researching Rangoon Jail for Chindits, i will pass the name to him in case he has come across it.
Got this back for you:
Had a quick look on my lists, 5 Williams?s. Two 13th King?s, one Royal Inniskilling, a US Marine and one other with no christian name. (none named Stanley). No-one spent more than 3 years in the jail. The early POW?s were mainly men captured from the retreat at Sittang. If they can find out more info, especially regiment, I may be able to explore further.
If he was from Liverpool then the 13th Kings may be a good bet - more likely a Chindit that a Desert Rat. "
Not much, but it may help. Ask them for any details that they have, the photo would be a great help as I could post it on the WW2 site and see what they come up with.
The Chindits were the brainchild of General A Wavell and Ord Wingate. Wavell then C in C in India sent for Wingate in 1943 with the task of organising guerilla activity against the Japanese forces in Burma. The name 'Chindit' was a corruption of the Burmese word for winged stone lion - the guardians of the Buddhist temples.
The original Chindit formation was officially known as the 77th infantry brigade - assembled for Wingate's operation Longcloth in Burma in 1943. Wingate assembled British, Gurkha and some Burma rifles and using innovative training methods welded them into a seven column brigade totalling about 3,000 men, with hundreds of mules, Oxen and Elephants carrying their supplies.
The unit comprised:
13 Battalion Kings Liverpool regt
3rd Bn 2nd Gurkha rifles
2nd Bn Burma rifles
142nd Commando company
Taken from here http://www.burmastar.org.uk/chindits.htm
I hope we can find him.
If you can come up with any more info. we can try again for you.
Thanks for that Spike. Still waiting for him to come back to me.
wartime memories project rangoon jail is wer i seen the picture of him but its not cumin up on the pc i ve a copy at me mums in lvpool he died in 1993 i never realy had a relationship with him till after he had a stroke so it was hard to understand him he was a dessert rat and anti tank ut he was fighton in burma run out of bullets got chased by the japs and fell into a pit full of excrement the japs couldnt stop laughn thats why he never got shot
Just got this reply. Anything you can use there.
Hi Pablo
I can put something together for him with what is on here, I will add him to the site.
Thanks Spike.
Here is the link to the site
http://liverpoolremembrance.weebly.com/
Not all is uploaded yet and the site is still under construction, but please enjoy what people have submitted so far. It will grow as we go along.
Thank you all of you who have supplied information for the site, and please keep it coming, tell your friends and family. Together we are building a fitting tribute.
I have broken my wrist in the last few days so I must apologise for the stories I have yet to submit. I will get them uploaded in time.
If we have uploaded anything wrong then please tell us.
Once again THANK YOU ALL, without you none of this would be possible.
Tony and Ged
Hope you get well soon Spike.