Urban Fox Hunting

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

What has Norris Green got to do with it ? You have just proven my point....
Talking about something you know nothing about....AGAIN!

I shall be out this week hunting rabbits,squirrels and magpies.:PDT10I will enjoy it. If nothing is caught it will still be just as much fun.:PDT11

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You are very cruel, haven't you got anything better to do. They are not harming you. And what will you do with the ill-gotten gains! :disgust:

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Originally Posted by Diane Louise

You are very cruel, haven't you got anything better to do. They are not harming you. And what will you do with the ill-gotten gains! :disgust:

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I think he said he wouldn't be contributing any more because of namby pamby tree huggers :PDT_Xtremez_42: I'll try and answer for you Diane - they hunt squirrels and the like because they are easy prey. Put these hunters on the African Plains with a pea shooter and ask them to hunt lions and they'd run a mile...:unibrow:

Will zappa be hunting these little creatures himself or will he be using a flying thing to do it ?

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Originally Posted by Mark R

I think he said he wouldn't be contributing any more because of namby pamby tree huggers :PDT_Xtremez_42: I'll try and answer for you Diane - they hunt squirrels and the like because they are easy prey. Put these hunters on the African Plains with a pea shooter and ask them to hunt lions and they'd run a mile...:unibrow:

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Not all of us Mark. I have hunted all different types of game and if I couldn't get a clean kill, I never took the shot. Not all hunters are cruel blood thirsty types. I've never liked killing much, but sometimes it's more than needed. I find pictures of foxes chained up offensive, and would certainly hunt those responsible.

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

What has Norris Green got to do with it ? You have just proven my point....
Talking about something you know nothing about....AGAIN!

I shall be out this week hunting rabbits,squirrels and magpies.:PDT10I will enjoy it. If nothing is caught it will still be just as much fun.:PDT11

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I know..... enough to know,that it's below me, to kill,chase,or torment animals for "FUN"! Enough said,no argument!

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

I know..... enough to know,that it's below me, to kill,chase,or torment animals for "FUN"! Enough said,no argument!

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I think Zap means the walk and countryside is as much fun.

I'm answering for him cos he said he wasn't gonna post no more on this thread.

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Originally Posted by scouse smurf

There's a big difference between slaves and the use of animals in sport.

Don't get me wrong, looking at that pic of the fox makes me think, shoot the b*stards that have done it and I also think any 'sport' were the result is to tear apart an animal is just beyond a joke.

But when u look at horse racing (not that I bet on any racing other than the national) then these horses make the owners money, so they've obviously gonna treat them really well. If the few unfortunate deaths make u want to ban horse racing then, stop eating any sort of meat, as they're bred for only that purpose. Also, who here would love to retire to a career of just staying at home and being allowed to sh*g any nice filly or stallion that's brought to u???

Let's just stop producing any sort of animal that is anything other than a pet, and let's see how many species will become extinct

Now can we get back to the disgraceful treatment of that fox, rather than horse racing ?

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I understand your point SS, but is that really true? I think you can figure where your tins of "Chappie" came from! I dont think horse racing,etc should be banned,but there should should be more consideration of the animals involved, as living things,not cash generators,and what really galls me is when they try to tell me"they enjoy it" or worse, "they wouldn't exist,otherwise" which is fine by me,but a sad indictment of (some) humanity,if they see every living thing,as being here for our pleasure,only!

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

I understand your point SS, but is that really true? I think you can figure where your tins of "Chappie" came from! I dont think horse racing,etc should be banned,but there should should be more consideration of the animals involved, as living things,not cash generators,and what really galls me is when they try to tell me"they enjoy it" or worse, "they wouldn't exist,otherwise" which is fine by me,but a sad indictment of (some) humanity,if they see every living thing,as being here for our pleasure,only!

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Sheesh, what happened to fun?

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Originally Posted by pablo42

Sheesh, what happened to fun?

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Ask a horse/greyhound!

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Originally Posted by Mark R

I think he said he wouldn't be contributing any more because of namby pamby tree huggers :PDT_Xtremez_42: I'll try and answer for you Diane - they hunt squirrels and the like because they are easy prey. Put these hunters on the African Plains with a pea shooter and ask them to hunt lions and they'd run a mile...:unibrow:

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We could have a whip round and send Zap on a safari to Africa to shoot some lions but even that wouldn't be right! :shock:

If culling needs to be done leave it to the experts.

I often wonder why people are more concerned about the welfare of animals than they are of people. Every day vulnerable children and adults are abused and all people think about is a stinky old fox, I just don't get it....

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Originally Posted by chrismarsden

I often wonder why people are more concerned about the welfare of animals than they are of people. Every day vulnerable children and adults are abused and all people think about is a stinky old fox, I just don't get it....

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I am concerned about all vulnerable people and animals. I don't like to see either in pain when there is no need for it.

I don't see the point in shooting a magpie, do you?

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Originally Posted by chrismarsden

I often wonder why people are more concerned about the welfare of animals than they are of people. Every day vulnerable children and adults are abused and all people think about is a stinky old fox, I just don't get it....

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Well,maybe that's just your narrow way of looking at "LIFE" in general!?!

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Originally Posted by Diane Louise

I am concerned about all vulnerable people and animals. I don't like to see either in pain when there is no need for it.

I don't see the point in shooting a magpie, do you?

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Personally I don't like Magpies, especially when they steal chicks from nests.

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Well,maybe that's just your narrow way of looking at "LIFE" in general!?!

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My narrow view of "LIFE" is that man is the most important species on the planet.

Why is it always assumed that people who care for animals care for abused children less :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Anyone with an ounce of feeling will have compassion for both - any vulnerable person or creature. Young children and dumb animals cannot speak up for themselves.

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Originally Posted by chrismarsden

My narrow view of "LIFE" is that man is the most important species on the planet.

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And your more than welcome to it! Why make the comparison in the first place?????? My outlook is much broader,it encompasses all life,even smelly foxes!!

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Originally Posted by Diane Louise

I am concerned about all vulnerable people and animals. I don't like to see either in pain when there is no need for it.

I don't see the point in shooting a magpie, do you?

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Ok I couldn't resist (I am not gonna reply to other "silly" posts)

Ok I will tell you about "The Point of shooting Magpies"...
I used to have Sparrows,Linnets,Skylarks,Pheasants and Partridges nesting and feeding around by my area. Not anymore. This is due to Magpies. The magpies don't have a preditor as they are the preditor. Do you think it will be nice just seeing black and white murderous birds ONLY ? That goes for Grey squirrels too.
Magpies do not kill for food. They kill to be the most common bird around.
Grey Squirrels are a pest. They kill so many trees and also so many birds.
Just like the magpie they destroy nests. Kill chicks and eat eggs.
I have watched the common garden birds dwindle in the past few years and I do know that it is down to Magpies and squirrels (along with a little help from man too)

If I catch a squirrel or magpie it will be fed to a hawk or the squirrel will be cooked with a nice bit of veg:PDT_Piratz_26:

Ok my rant over....again!!

Forgot to add that Some people should stick to A-Z of games!!!

And some people should lern to spel!

P.S. No food,no magpies! Natures way....worked so far,till country bumpkins interfered!

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

And some people should lern to spel!

P.S. No food,no magpies! Natures way....worked so far,till country bumpkins interfered!

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And if you're dyslexic or just hit the wrong button what then oh perfect one.LOL

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

And if you're dyslexic or just hit the wrong button what then oh perfect one.LOL

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And if you love A to Z games,and just p**s off the wrong poster? That's called Hypocrisy! Remember,people in glass houses......,or ,if you can't take it,dont give it out!

Can we stay on topic, this thread does not relate to spelling in the title...

now now boys, concentrate on the subject matter rather than personal attacks.

Zappa, out of interest do u shoot the magpies etc ? if not, how do they get killed ?

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Originally Posted by chrismarsden

Can we stay on topic, this thread does not relate to spelling in the title...

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Just a little riposte re' a to z games,which oddly,you didn't notice,but was also off topic,which,by the way,is about killing for fun!

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Originally Posted by scouse smurf

now now boys, concentrate on the subject matter rather than personal attacks.

Zappa, out of interest do u shoot the magpies etc ? if not, how do they get killed ?

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The best way is tiny willow spines held by sinew. When the sinew is digested the willow spines pierce the stomach. Usually takes forty minutes.



Just kiddin' Scouse...or am I.

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Just a little riposte re' a to z games,which oddly,you didn't notice,but was also off topic,which,by the way,is about killing for fun!

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As was the mention of Norris Green???? Anyway...............

Scouse Smurf.... Magpies I kill by shooting or getting a Larsen trap and then kill the bugger humanely. I hate to see any animals suffer.

Ps. Hope my spelling is up to scratch:handclap:

Norris Green = town = know nothing of countryside! Your calculation,not mine!
(spelling...... improved)

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Just a little riposte re' a to z games,which oddly,you didn't notice,but was also off topic,which,by the way,is about killing for fun!

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Sorry Steve, must have missed something. Still don't get it.

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Originally Posted by chrismarsden

Sorry Steve, must have missed something. Still don't get it.

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Too laborious to explain,nothing really!

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Too laborious to explain,nothing really!

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Ok thanks anyway.

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Originally Posted by wsteve55

Norris Green = town = know nothing of countryside! Your calculation,not mine!
(spelling...... improved)

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Norris Green = I don't live there. Silly boy.

A-Z again me thinks.

Spelling = Not a problem

So, what about them poor foxes eh ?

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

Ok I couldn't resist (I am not gonna reply to other "silly" posts)

Ok I will tell you about "The Point of shooting Magpies"...
I used to have Sparrows,Linnets,Skylarks,Pheasants and Partridges nesting and feeding around by my area. Not anymore. This is due to Magpies. The magpies don't have a preditor as they are the preditor. Do you think it will be nice just seeing black and white murderous birds ONLY ? That goes for Grey squirrels too.
Magpies do not kill for food. They kill to be the most common bird around.
Grey Squirrels are a pest. They kill so many trees and also so many birds.
Just like the magpie they destroy nests. Kill chicks and eat eggs.
I have watched the common garden birds dwindle in the past few years and I do know that it is down to Magpies and squirrels (along with a little help from man too)

If I catch a squirrel or magpie it will be fed to a hawk or the squirrel will be cooked with a nice bit of veg:PDT_Piratz_26:

Ok my rant over....again!!

Forgot to add that Some people should stick to A-Z of games!!!

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So you decide to play God and who gave you that right?

I suggest you leave things to nature because the bottom line is, you are the worse predator of the lot! These poor animals have no defence against you and that is grossly unfair.

One day, as you are aiming your weapon at a magpie, someone could be aiming something at you!

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Originally Posted by Diane Louise

So you decide to play God and who gave you that right?

I suggest you leave things to nature because the bottom line is, you are the worse predator of the lot! These poor animals have no defence against you and that is grossly unfair.

One day, as you are aiming your weapon at a magpie, someone could be aiming something at you!

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And do you think I believe in GOD ?

If I didn't shoot magpies near my home then all I would see when I look out would be pidgeons,magpies and grey squirrels instead of the woodpeckers,long tail ****,chaffinches,goldfinches,collared doves,hedge sparrows,blackbirds,song thrush and mistle thrush. That is a fact. I have yet to get house sparrows back,linnets,bullfinches and skylarks.
I feed the birds everyday and I have put up many different types of nest boxes. I have and will continue to help "our" garden birds.

My friend is a Dr of Ornithology who looks after red kites. He was on tv last week (The one show). I think he knows more than anyone here and he is in agreement about magpies and squirrels too.

Ok enough from me.
Do your garden birds a favour and get rid of a magpie or squirrel today!!!:PDT11

Diane, not that I'm siding with Zappa but isn't anything us humans do part of natural scheme of things too ?

They always go on about natural order when predators kill animals and we're pretty much top of the tree. if we're torturing things then that's wrong coz it's just doing it for evil fun (like cat's with mice) but if there is a genuine purpose and it's done in a humane way then there's justification for it.

Whether it be Farmers killing foxes or the extreme of Zappa's personal quest to rid the world of magpies. ya gotta admit there's a lot more around now that there used to be and u see less smaller birds

Cruel treatment of anything is totally wrong, justified culling isn't wrong

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

And do you think I believe in GOD ?

If I didn't shoot magpies near my home then all I would see when I look out would be pidgeons,magpies and grey squirrels instead of the woodpeckers,long tail ****,chaffinches,goldfinches,collared doves,hedge sparrows,blackbirds,song thrush and mistle thrush. That is a fact. I have yet to get house sparrows back,linnets,bullfinches and skylarks.
I feed the birds everyday and I have put up many different types of nest boxes. I have and will continue to help "our" garden birds.

My friend is a Dr of Ornithology who looks after red kites. He was on tv last week (The one show). I think he knows more than anyone here and he is in agreement about magpies and squirrels too.

Ok enough from me.
Do your garden birds a favour and get rid of a magpie or squirrel today!!!:PDT

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I have to agree that there seems to be less birds of any variety but I am not going to go out and kill a magpie and I love squirrels and bunnies!

I can see that you really love birds and hate magpies but you don't have to kill them which I think is very wrong.

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Originally Posted by ItsaZappathing

And do you think I believe in GOD ?

If I didn't shoot magpies near my home then all I would see when I look out would be pidgeons,magpies and grey squirrels instead of the woodpeckers,long tail ****,chaffinches,goldfinches,collared doves,hedge sparrows,blackbirds,song thrush and mistle thrush. That is a fact. I have yet to get house sparrows back,linnets,bullfinches and skylarks.
I feed the birds everyday and I have put up many different types of nest boxes. I have and will continue to help "our" garden birds.

My friend is a Dr of Ornithology who looks after red kites. He was on tv last week (The one show). I think he knows more than anyone here and he is in agreement about magpies and squirrels too.

Ok enough from me.
Do your garden birds a favour and get rid of a magpie or squirrel today!!!:PDT11

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This seems like a reasonable thing to do as the garden bird population does seem to be in decline compared to the rise in number of the magpies.
As John has demonstrated in the photo's of the beautiful birds he has in his garden his actions seem to be helping with the bird population.

What is it John ?
One for Sorrow, TWO for Joy ? :PDT_Xtremez_42:

I'd never shoot a magpie because I didn't like it. How cruel are some people!

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Originally Posted by scouse smurf

Diane, not that I'm siding with Zappa but isn't anything us humans do part of natural scheme of things too ?

They always go on about natural order when predators kill animals and we're pretty much top of the tree. if we're torturing things then that's wrong coz it's just doing it for evil fun (like cat's with mice) but if there is a genuine purpose and it's done in a humane way then there's justification for it.

Whether it be Farmers killing foxes or the extreme of Zappa's personal quest to rid the world of magpies. ya gotta admit there's a lot more around now that there used to be and u see less smaller birds

Cruel treatment of anything is totally wrong, justified culling isn't wrong

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Well dont then,make up your own mind! The magpie population increase, is a result of bad management by the country bumpkins,and insufficient food resources in they're former,natural habitat,hence the move into urban area's! Much the same can be said of the fox population! Also,I've heard it said, somewhere, that we are reckoned to be more sophisticated,and even civilised!?? But that's probably just a rumour! :disgust: