Brilliant :celb (23)::PDT_Piratz_26:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
Printable View
Brilliant :celb (23)::PDT_Piratz_26:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipG
They were taken over by People's weren't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Those photos are great, but the ones of the Dingle and Park Road are really special to me, as that's where I live.Quote:
Originally Posted by w141
I've never seen them before.
Fantastic photos. Thanks for posting the link. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by w141
There are still a few reminders around...the Tunnel and Herculaneum Dock entrance, some track supports along the route (built into the grey wall at Wapping), the supports show up at other places along the route if you walk along the 'dock rd'. The museum are also hiding one of the train carriages.
This plaque is near one of the old stations.
Large pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne...8449142&size=l
http://static.flickr.com/99/298449142_28b125ad71.jpg
My boyfriend was talking to someone last night that said there is a massive warehouse in Bootle that contains carriage(s) of the Overhead Railway,
is this storage for the museum?
Wouldn't it be great if the overhead 'format' was revived in future transport plans, using the same tried and rested route to the Liver Building area and beyond! They could have a station exit just opposite the PSD!
The location of the museums large vehicle store is supposed to be a secret!
Someone told me it was a warehouse somewhere along the 'dock rd', but I haven't bothered checking for myself. A while ago there was a trip organised to take people to the secret storage location (this was mentioned in the Liverpool Echo a couple of years ago).
Yes, there is a vehicle store in Bootle. Someone was telling me about it but I forget who it was now...
Original plans for the new museum X-building were to suspend the Overhead Railway carriage up high.
BTW that plaque I posted is near the overhead walkway (Strand), near the site of the old Pier Head station.
did the tour ever take place do you know marky?Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
would be great to get some pics
Another Photo, I found it on The Scouse house, it is a sad picture depicting the despair of Liverpool in decline.
Maybe there is a message here for those who can decide the fate of The Royal Iris" WHEN IT'S GONE...IT'S GONE
I wish I'd gone on the museum tour, but i'm too lazy sometimes. It was one of those open day things that happen every now and again...but I haven't noticed that one being repeated since.
Ask someone at the museum where the large vehicles are kept and see if they tell you where it is...ha, ha.
Here's a link to the museum site, which states coach No. 3 is 'currently in store'
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/m...eadrailway.asp
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/m...lway_coach.jpg
pic. copyright National Museums Liverpool
The LOR actually closed 50 years ago last night! For the first time in a while, the trains were packed to capacity with enthusiasts & wellwishers.
The day after (50 years ago today of course), the local bus coorporation then started running the Dingle - Seaforth route instead, which was nowhere near as fas as its predecessor.
What a travesty..
I have no memories of this fine institution, only images I have seen & what I have read about it. It would be so wonderful if even only part of it were to be resurrected. I can't believe that it's not happened already. I think it would be a great tourist magnet, not to mention a great way to travel through the city centre!!
I'm looking through these links and reading the facts about the OHR and still asking how the hell we lost it so quickly (shakes head) :PDT_Xtremez_12:.
A world first? a popular tourist attraction? GONE :disgust:.
"The time will come when Merseysiders must rue the day when they permitted the City Fathers to throttle the
lifeblood of this unique undertaking and in addition to scrap the last vestige of their remarkably
efficient tramway system."
H. Maxwell Roston (General Manager, Liverpool Overhead Railway)
Text taken from Timbo's Liverpool
KEV
Why has it taken Half a century and at least 2 generations for Merseysiders to discover what they have lost
KEV
Why has it taken Half a century and at least 2 generations for Merseysiders to discover what they have lost[/QUOTE]
Actually, it was missed by the general public very soon after it closed.
I came to Liverpool from Southport in 1968, and remember even then people talking about the Overhead, and saying: "What a shame", etc.
Going back even further, My mum used to take me on it (early 1950s), and we'd go to the Tatler in Church Street to watch the cartoons.
50 years later, I actually live above Dingle Station! :)
Hi i found out today that apperently my great grandfather was the first ford dealer in liverpool on the site the blakes took over.WEBBS OF LIVERPOOL,funny thing is i have loved cars and motorsport all my life and not even known about this.I only found out because i (through my passion for cars) am starting my own valeting buisness and while using my uncles hot washer he told me about my relatives owning this garage and after going bust opening the hale village garden centre (wich i did know about)sadly this is also know closed.Being a bit flumuxed i have'nt asked him much but will be asking my mum as soon as she gets back from thailand. I hope i can get hold of some pictures and maybe post them on here.Many thanks to you i sort of found some info but it seems with blakes being more sucsesfull webbs ford has been forgotten.Thanks for a informative read.
Gregred,
In the 50's I worked for Blakes. At the time there were three Ford Main dealers in Liverpool. J.Blake & Co. Ltd. A.W.Webb Ltd. and J.C. Whitney in Scotland Road. Webbs was in Pilgrim St. and last time I was around there the building was still there but being used for something else. If you go up Pilgrim St. from Berry St. it is a 2 story building with a ramp up the side to drive onto the roof.
I don't remember when they went out of business. Blakes used to advertise that they were the oldest Ford dealer in the country, established in 1912.
Thanks for the reply,my uncle was telling me today that it was a three storey building with a car park on the roof.Ben webb was my greatgrandfathers name and arthur was his fathers name.I know from looking at photos when i was young he owned a daimler.It may not of been an official ford dealer but they only bought cars from ford.Maybe dealerships were just starting and that owned garages were getting squeezed out?I do know that my grandad lesley cook (husband of nancy webb ben's daughter)worked their.People allways tell me it's like looking at a ghost when they see me as i look so much alike him.Another spookey thing is when i was looking at the photos of the cars in the dingle tunnel from the links in this thread,the white or cream car has the numbers 913 in.My birthday is 13/9 spooky,.I am in widnes so i am going to do some investigating.My mum had told me that their was a garage buisness at one time in her family but she failed to mention it was a dealership possibly or even that they sold cars.
I feel very proud though knowing that somebody other than family remembers my great grandfathers buisness and as would he i would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for replying.You have made my day i just wish they still had the buisness then i could of had my dream car a ford escort cosworth he he.Still hopefully in a couple of thousand valets i might be a little closer to being able to afford one.Thing that gets me though is why my mum never really mentioned it to me knowing how mad about cars i was.Still at least i know were i get it from.I will try my best to get some photos,i am going to be pestering my mum and aunts and uncles for pics as i would be really interested to contest blakes claims.:snf (41):
My sincere thanks to you for replying i had noticed the thread was a couple of months old and was wondering if i would get one. You really have made my day .
Just found out that my great grandfather was not only the first ford dealer in liverpool he also sold the first ford from a liverpool garage.My auntie who worked in fords halewood say's there was a huge picture in fords of my great grandfather with the car sold.She thinks it was a ford anglia.I have also contacted an ex employee and i am hoping he will be able to shed some light on the situation.How i would love to re open that garage and put a sign up saying we were the first official ford dealership and put that photo in the showroom to prove it.If indeed it is the case webbs were the first,I know it 's probobly not of huge importance to anyone but i know if my great grandfather was the first it would be a nice thing for me to prove he was.
Was there any future for the much-lamented Liverpool Overhead Railway?, asks Peter Elson on the 50th anniversary of its closure.
Read on.....
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/ic...D55901C4C5.jpg
gregred,
It could not have been a Ford Anglia that was the first Ford sold in the city. Blakes owned a 1914 Model T amongst their collection of antiques. The story was that it was the first Model T sold in Liverpool by them.
The name anglia was first used I believe in 1947, Ford previously used model numbers, the car they called the Anglia had previously been known as the Ford 7Y. 8hp. Halewood opened in the early 60's and the first car they produced used to be in Liverpool museum and was only brought out for dealer promotions. It was the 105E Anglia identifiable by the backwards sloping back window.
If you need any more information on the car trade in that era please feel free to message me, I don't want to keep getting off the theme of this thread.
exellent link Kev
Poor maintenance is very often the reason for demolition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
From New Brighton Tower to Municipal Housing.
The Palm House almost went the same way.
The list is endless.
LOR supports, Wapping.
:handclap: Cheers MaryQuote:
Originally Posted by marky
Hi Gnomie
Lovely poster, Gnomie! Thanks for sharing it with us.
As for whether there was a future for the Overhead Railway, it would appear self-evident that if the powers that be had thought it was worth preserving, it would still be with us today. But no doubt the feeling was that the Overhead Railway had served its usefulness and that buses rather than local rail or tramways were the wave of the future. This was the trend not only in the UK but also here in the United States, where streetcars (trams) were done away with in favor of buses. Only recently have trams or light rail transportation made a comeback.
Chris
Great pics, Marky! The picture of the Wapping wall brings a smile to my face because this is where I worked on the docks as a clerk in the summer of 1966, my first job when I was still a student at Quarry Bank. :celb (23):Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
Chris
Good grief, Chris.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
You're younger than me. :)
A NEW film is set to re-create Liverpool’s famous Overhead Railway, fondly remembered around the world as the “Dockers Umbrella”.
Now, using computer-generated wizardry, the railway – and the long-gone trams that passed under it – have been brilliantly brought back to life by North Star, the Liverpool production company behind gangster movie Going Off Big Time.
Old footage of the railway was used as the basis for images which brought gasps of delight and astonishment from an audience of VIPs who were given a sneak preview at the city’s Radisson Hotel. more
Nice photos. Frances Morton and Co Ltd was of course based in Garston and was a major steel fabrication company. A particular speciality was prefabricated buildings, churches etc which they exported world wide. The business had its roots in Cable St Liverpool in 1766. Unfortunately like most of the original dockside industry in Garston, it is no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
Errm I've only done 3 posts so far so please excuse me if this has been linked to but a mate on you tube has this of the overhead railway....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr6cKHaHv4s
Hope it's of interest :PDT11
Some great stuff there of the tunnels if anyones interested too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoCmNTqTBf4
I still get mad at the lack of interest in this site....Its WORLD heritage!! If this was London we'd have a museum over it. :disgust: Sorry Rant over.
Peace and Happiness.....Gaz
Fantastic footage there! I've got a load of scans from when they turned the Edge Hill cutting from a enclosed tunnel to what is now the 14 tunnels to Lime Street - I'll have to start editing em for here as they're 7mb each!
Excellent stuff there Wato.
Interest? Quite often on a Sunday, in my younger years, my Dad used to take me on a trip along the full length of the Overhead whenever there was a ship of interest in the docks. I particularly remenber us doing the trip when the Empress of Canada caught fire and capsized in Gladstone Dock(1953). We'd get the No 60 to the Dingle and then Overhead to Seaforth and back. Thanks to your post I've just done it again!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wato