Wirral Developments and Regeneration

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Originally Posted by Paul D

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This is of the Cammell Laird site and is a completely different proposal to what Peel Holdings are proposing.Peel are trying to buy this site off Reddington Finance who are proposing this development at a cost of £2 Billion,Peels proposal is said to be worth £4 Billion and that may be just for starters they reckon. There is 6 towers in this vision.

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A nice project and I like it. They are even building a new canal too. What do Peel want to do? Fill in the basins no doubt.

All of this doesn't make sense. Here they are building an island - OK I like the green part, great - when they have filled in docks at Birkenhead when most of the waterways and docks between the two towns are rife for immedate development. Why get rid of waterways and then make others? Wirral should tell Peel no filling in of docks or waterways will be considered whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Waterways

Wirral should tell Peel no filling in of docks or waterways will be considered whatsoever.

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Here are mate You Do It! :)


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This development is about a year old and it's by Reddington Finance not Peel Holdings that's a whole new development,Peel are trying to buy this site off them though so they can do it up themselves,the Reddington proposal is said to be worth £2 billion and the council wasn't keen on the island that they wanted to build.The Wirral Waters project will be on the local news tonight and I think it's going to build around the docks and not fill them in.I've already seen the BBC mention it so it's definitely on there and I'm sure a £4 Billion project should make it onto Granada :rolleyes: make sure you're all watching.

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Originally Posted by Paul D

This development is about a year old and it's by Reddington Finance not Peel Holdings that's a whole new development,Peel are trying to buy this site off them though so they can do it up themselves,the Reddington proposal is said to be worth £2 billion,the Wirral Waters project will be on the local news tonight I've already seen the BBC mention it so it's definitely on there and I'm sure a £4 Billion project should make it to the Granada channel as well.:rolleyes:

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Peel have plans for the Lairds site on the river. Peel want to buy up the Lairds site, so they can put their own project in place. What is their intentions?

We don't really know, but we know Reddingtons. I don't tust Peel as their record is poor. From the Wirrals point of view. it is better the Birkenhead docks are developed, which Peel own, as the water is there, rather than built an artificial island in the river - although on the surface I do like the Reddington Lairds site plan. What may happen is that a top development may be at Lairds and the rest of the docks left to rot, or left to dock filling cheap fly-by-night developers buildingh tickt-tacky red and yellow bricked buildings.

Wirral must learn from Liverpool, where there have been big mistakes, and stop filling in docks and have some firm plan on what to do with them. People like living around water. Peel want to generate land by dock in-fill, that is clear. I prefer the Reddington plan, as I don't trust Peel. They will come in with last minute admendments in-fill as they have done with West Waterloo Dock.

Look below:

"Liverpool docks may be put up for sale again Aug 14 2006

By Liam Murphy Daily Post Staff

THE business group which bought the Mersey Docks and Harbour Company less than 12 months ago could soon be up for sale itself.

Peel Holdings is looking for possible purchasers to take up to a 49% stake in the Peel Ports company, it was reported yesterday.

Owned by Manchester millionaire John Whittaker, Peel bought MDHC after being given the go-ahead by the Office of Fair Trading last August.

In September, 2005, Peel, owners of Liverpool John Lennon Airport, the Manchester Ship Canal and the Trafford Centre, assumed ownership of the company, and with it a vast estate of docklands and real estate spanning some 2,000 acres in a £770m deal.

The move catapulted the company into becoming a major player in the UK, and Peel Ports now handles 40m tonnes a year.

Yesterday, it was reported that Peel Ports had appointed Rothschild investment bank to investigate a potential sale of almost half the company.

It is believed they are hoping to take advantage of an upsurge in interest in infrastructure assets. "

The bold means fill in the docks and waterways and make a killing on the land they generate destroying our heritage and history. Peel bought MDHC less than a year ago and now they want to make a killing selling 49% with a tempter top the buyer(s) that they will make a kiling from land generated by dock-infilling. Most importantly, what the people of Liverpool and the Wirral need is:

1. A cast in concrete guarantee that no docks or waterways will be filled in. The City on the Water, the Hamburg, the Amsterdam, the Venice of Northern Europe we were promised, will not materialise at this rate.

2. Exacavting of infilled docks when proposals are submitted to ensure the City on the Water is realised. Docks as: Harrington, Toxteth, Trafalgar, Victoria. Morpeth and Bidston.

Look what Hamburg do, Europe's second largest seaport, and they are 68 miles from the sea. If waterways were to be filled in, in Amsterdam or Hamburg there would be riots. Does Liverpool and the Wirral have to lack vision and not value the legacy of the waterways? We are going to end up with a Manchester or Birmingham, not a water based city and towns.

But we are not Hamburg, we are not Amsterdam, we are not even Salford Quays ....

Did'nt Cardiff fill a few duckponds in to create its new iconic waterfront ? http://www.visitcardiffbay.info/

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Very bling i must say, a striking view.

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I think it's absolutely stunning!!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

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Originally Posted by FKoE

But we are not Hamburg, we are not Amsterdam, we are not even Salford Quays ....

Did'nt Cardiff fill a few duckponds in to create its new iconic waterfront ?

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We are not Cardiff either.

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Originally Posted by Paul D

I think it's absolutely stunning!!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

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So far so good. I like what I see. The appear to be using the waterwasy to good effect. But the devil is in the detail. How many of thsoe blocks are multi-floor cars parks. Any on the quays? Is it to be a sterile, lifeless car based area?

Will they come in with a last minute proposal to fill in part or whole of some dcoks, like at West Waterloo?

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Originally Posted by Waterways

We are not Cardiff either.

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No but, Cardiff is THE 'POOLS nearest comparable neighbour

, we are not Barrow we are not Bristol ... Either !!



Wany to make Glasgow an issue ?

That looks fantastic. They really do need something for all those visitors to Liverpool to look at.

I hope you all realise that this will be surrounded by grot though!

Birkenhead's slightly less glamerous side is round here as is Wallasey's! The 12 Quay's ferry terminal is infront so you will have freight trucks rolling on and off all the time oh, and Tower Road is pretty much conjested now. Especially the roundabout at the end of the Dock Road in Seacombe.

It would be great to see built but I am concerned about the surrounding areas and what impacts to the local road network a development like this would have. Forget the Mersey Tunnel Portal being opened up off Rendall Street; the intersection would have to be controlled by signals and for a tunnel with quite sizable traffic flows, signals and standing traffic would be a bad idea.

I would be very interested to see how the transport networks are incorporated into these designs because if they don't, the road network will not be able to cope with the influx of people.

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Originally Posted by wallasey

I hope you all realise that this will be surrounded by grot though!

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Initially maybe. As time goes on the houses will be replaced/new residents inside.

This project makes it clear that Wallasey and Birkenhead should be one place and this waterway the centre - what a centre. Or have both incorporated within Liverpool. The potential on those docks is amazing. Only the West Float will be commercial shipping, so the ships have to sail through the towers - which is good. Eventually when West Float is redundant another similar scheme can be around West Float.

I see they are building a retail oulet on the infiled Bidson Dock. What a waste!!! The docks fillers triumph again.

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Originally Posted by wallasey

I hope you all realise that this will be surrounded by grot though!

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Yeah quite true, but its working in Salford.

Pete Carr, I've been taking a look at your photos .... they are brilliant! Stunning. Excellent. :celb (23):

Here's the official Wirral Waters website and have a look at the fancy shops they hope to build in Bidston Moss.:celb (6):

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http://www.wirralwaters.com/main.html

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Originally Posted by lindylou

Pete Carr, I've been taking a look at your photos .... they are brilliant! Stunning. Excellent. :celb (23):

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Thanks. Glad you liked them :) I do hope they do that Bidston thing. That'd look great too.

It's very early stages yet so who knows what we'll end up with but if it's half as good as all this we're on to a winner.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

BIRKENHEAD Park is to have £500,000 spent on attracting visitors to the historic site.

New Yorkers used it as a blueprint

for their Central Park, but it had slipped from its former glory.

Now more than £11m is being invested into the Grade Ilisted landscape to bring it

back to its best.

And the Friends of Birkenhead Park have been given £500,000 to attract people back once the work has been completed.The five-year

programme will see activities designed to make Birkenhead Park more popular.

Professor Robert Lee from the Friends said: "Many people use the park,

but do they know its history? This money will safeguard the huge investment in the parkby giving people asense of community ownership."

Schoolchildren

will be taught about the park with the help of education packs and Professor Lee will write a book about its history.There will also be plays and activities

with Birkenhead-based Active Drama Company.

Children in schools and youth clubs are being invited to put together an oral history by talking to local

people about the park.

Professor Lee said: "They will record the exciting things that have taken place there. Community memories can be different from

the archives."

A £451,000 grant has been awarded by the Heritage Lottery Fund with added cash from Liverpool university's academic fund, Wirral

council and Friends of Birkenhead Park.

The park was opened in 1847, designed by Sir Joseph Paxton, and was the first public park in the

world.

English Heritage says it is one of the 10 most important landscapes in the UK.

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I think it's absolutely stunning!!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

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Wirral actually getting that?

Hopefully Max,it's a 30 year project but the Wirral council are keen to see

it built so that's one hurdle out of the way.

THE former Cammell Laird shipyard has been bought in a £100m deal by property developer Peel Holdings.

Owner Reddington Finance is understood to have sold the Wirral waterfront site in a deal that will see it change hands early next month.

It clears the way for Peel to include the former shipyard in its existing £4.5bn Wirral Waters plan to develop Birkenhead's docklands into a "mini-Dubai" over the next 30 years.

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First phase plans for its ambitious Wirral Waters scheme are expected to go before council officials later this month.

Wraps off the new-look Wirral

AMBITIOUS £4bn plans to create a Manhattan-style skyline for Birkenhead will be revealed to the public this week.

Developer Peel Holdings, owners of Liverpool John Lennon Airport and the Port of Liverpool, unveiled a 30-year masterplan to regenerate Wallasey and Birkenhead docklands to councillors last August.

The company will now present its proposals, which it describes as the largest regeneration project in the UK, to the public at a meeting in Birkenhead tomorrow.

The scheme, to be called Wirral Waters, would see skyscrapers built along the waterfront for business, leisure and residential use.

Cllr Pat Hackett, cabinet member for regeneration, said it was vital the project improved the quality of life for people living close to the docklands.


The meeting is at the Lauries Centre, Birkenhead, at 7.30pm.

The new Woodside goes on display

AMBITIOUS plans to completely revamp Birkenhead’s waterfront will go on public display next week.

Woodside in Birkenhead provides some of the best views across to one of the world’s most recognisable sights – the Liverpool waterfront.

Now Peel Holdings are backing the council who say it has massive redevelopment potential.

Wirral’s Cabinet member for regeneration, Cllr Pat Hackett, said the involvement of a major developer such as Peel gave the masterplan extra credibility.

Cllr Hackett said the plans represented an opportunity for the site – directly opposite Liverpool’s World Heritage waterfront – to undergo a long-awaited renaissance.

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It's about time Wirral had somerthing worth looking at from the Liverpool side of the Mersey.:unibrow:

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Originally Posted by Paul D

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I think it's absolutely stunning!!:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

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Well I don't know that it's good that Birkenhead will be made to look like Manhattan or Chicago or Miami. :(

Looks very similar to London's Canary Wharf
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Yeh! I guess! I suppose I react though to the prospect of a skyscrapered Birkenhead the same way I do to seeing McDonald's and KFC in England. . . :(

Chris

THE first set of tower blocks rising from Wirral’s docklands as part of the ambitious £4bn plans by developer Peel Holdings are likely to be approved by Wirral Council next week. more

I think the reason why it's only 16 stories is because of the location of the tower next to the East Float Mill warehouse,still I hope it looks good because it's in a fantastic location.I hope it blends in and respects the old warehouse,hopefully WW will progressively get bigger.

anyone would think the Wallasey Pool is in Birkenhead going from his thread aye ;)

The whole of the Wirral is Birkenhead to me.:rolleyes:

Seacombe is in Walla land.. I'll 'av yer know.. :D

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This is the first building in Wirral waters.

WORK has begun on the biggest single regeneration project in Wirral after six years of plans, revisions, a public inquiry and divisions in the seaside town of New Brighton. Read

Interesting things about Wirral see link below
Wirral Grows As Film Location (JUne 2006)
Increasingnumbers of film makers are using Wirral as a location for filming. Tourism chiefs at Wirral Council say that interest in filming has doubled within the last year, generating an estimated £198,000 of investment from productions for the local economy. Actors and crews from BBC period dramas

More herehttp://www.wirraldirect.co.uk/archive.asp

Kat

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Birkenhead, wirral is to see the return of a large asda superstore,
plans submitted and are up for review September 13th
More here http://www.wirral.gov.uk/planning/Re...anted=Register
Location of the store will require demolition of several existing shops, which back onto several roads in the area, but generally, to get an idea, it will be locaited next to the current woolworth store, and bon mach, then the store will travel back across the exisiting car park towards exmouth street and near to the fire station, this is going to be a large structure if approved, and will also accomodate a car park.
kat:)

http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/artic...s/1048231a.jpg£1.4million revamp for Birkenhead Bus Station
More here http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/newsa...d=1268&catid=1
kat:)