did it work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirob
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did it work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirob
Ha,Ha,:handclap:Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiPathos
Never had a Bond with a heater, so I can't comment if it worked.
Shotton Steelworks, their last steam engine, converted to a mobile boiler, a sad end for "Diana". August 1970
Mount Vernon, August 1975
Towards Walton Prison from Breeze Hill, August 1970
Playing at engine drivers, Princes Dock, July 1971
Ornate entrance towers, Princes Dock, July 1971
Dusk at Princes Dock swing bridge, July 1971
So glad to see Yo! back.:handclap:
Kirkdale as dusk falls, May 1970
Derailment at Coppull, December 1970 (no other pics of it have surfaced)
Good to see you back too :PDT11 :handclap:
Yep!Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
Amazing photographs here. Brought back some great memories.
Thanks to everyone who contributed.:handclap:
Here is a weird shot of the former Commodore cinema, Bank Hall
brilliant, brilliant thread! just keep coming back to look
I know we've talked in PM's in the past about this, I'm still interested in viewing these photos (as I can't view them at the moment, come up as 1x1 squares no matter what I do, tried different computers etc, these are on page 41, also the picture of St Georges Height on page 42, can't view that either, if I can somehow get a hold of them (onsite or otherwise) I'd really appreciate it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirob
Thanks.
Two gas governor houses, still bearing Liverpool Gas Company.
Stuart Road, Walton and Crosby Road South, Waterloo.
cheers sirob :PDT11
anymore of liverpool exchange and central high level???
whereabouts on crosby road south is that sirob?
It's right next to that little park just as you leave Seaforth container terminal and you're heading up Crosby Road South, it's on your left at the traffic lights at Cambridge Road.
Ah, the park with the big fancy entrance. Potter's Barn or something. The rich guy's folly. The gatehouse to a house that never was... By the corner that always smells of open sewers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
I am currently trying to get older photographs of Upper Hampton Street - does anyone have any or know of any likely sources?
Lukeo25 try this site.http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s....Ted:handclap:
Sorry, I have no more pics of Liverpool Central and Ged beat me to it about the governor house location.
Two school signs, from Toxteth and Waterloo.
Unseen, unless you are looking for stuff like this!
That first school sign (Beaufort Street) was consigned to history last week. The school has been demolished.
It was listed too, and allowed to crumble. My mother went to school there.Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
Something different; reballasting at Speke in 1971
Excellent!
Sirob,
would it be possible to visit my site, and email me to get in touch about your photos? I messaged you a while back, about time I got started!
I can't seem to get PM working?!
Dave Kent
Kev can confirm but I think PM on this site is disabled at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by xaheadx
Chris
Thanks,
hopefully the message will get through and can contact off site.
Cheers
Dave
anymore of the wirral railways? or any of southport pier??
Forgot to say , they are only the 3rd and 4th pics of Sefton and Maghull staion I have ever seen in 48 years! I wonder if you photgraphed Lydiate that day too, or indeed any others of Sefton, the sigbnal box maybe?
Re Faz pics. Oh yes I saw those pics of Fazakerley, nice stuff. Thanks for posting
When I visited Lydiate station, it had already been demolished. Only Sefton and Altcar were still standing.Quote:
Originally Posted by signalnorth
Pic is the remains of Ainsdale Beach station in 1964.
Absolute shame lad. It appears that the way to get round demolishing beautiful and listed buildings is to do nothing to them, wait for them to fall into disrepair and then demolish it, citing 'structural instability' and 'public hazard'. It should be a criminal offence! *pardon the rant!*Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
If the building is becoming unsound, then take it into public ownership. Put it right, sell it and give any surplus back to the original owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dead Cat
I wouldn't even give any back to the owner. Make it known that any ownership of buildings has a clause of them being upkept and place a full council tax on them. Who'd want to own them then in a run down state?
Land Value Tax would sort it out. It was introduced by Pittsburgh and all the derelict and run down properties disappeared. Money men were sitting on them waiting and hoping for a killing in years to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
LVT has no income tax, so all your wages are your own and it you work harder you keep it all. LVT is a tax on the "value" of land - all land even agricultural land. So, no aristocracy owning half of Scotland and paying no tax on all that land. If they can't utilise the land then they have to sell it to someone who can.
The teachings of economist Henry George, known as Georgism. A brilliant system that is partially used throughout the world. The UK was to introduce it pre-WW1, but the war got in the way. Money people and landed aristocracy hate the system as it would mean they would have to sell the land to make it useful.
I like your idea Ged. If the owners can't take care of it then take it off them and have it sorted.
The problem with Ged's idea is when you think it through. Who decides a building has to be taken into public ownership? It would need an independent body and the law would require their decision to be challenged. Slap LVT on the "value" of the land, all land anywhere, and they soon get it sorted and no public body interference. Few courts involved so the parasite lawyers are out of it. The system sorts it out for itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by potter
That can easily be determined with not too much brain power.
How long has the building been empty/abandoned/not in use?
When was the last renovation work done on it?
Are utilities still live to the property?
What are the future proposals for its use if not in use?
Timescales, plans and responsibility are the answer.
Buidlings in an interim state of repair would also levy a charge to the owner whilst the council have to make it and its surroundings safe - hoardings etc which the council would own and charge for and only advertising undertaken by the council would be allowed on them as they own them which would also deter irresponsible owners from trying to cash in on hoarding advertising.
As stated, if full council tax was payable on it, it would be not only in the owners interests to have it being put to good use but it would be almost suicidal not to.
Ged, understand how LVT works and how it has sorted this sort of thing out in other cities around the world. It also brings in tax as well and keep buildings in good shape and have land utilised. The vacant plots in Liverpool with surface car parking would be put to better use if the land was charged the same as a 15 floor building on the next plot.
No extra bodies, or enlarging of existing bodies, just a tax on the value of land. If you do not pay the tax then the assets on the land, the bricks, get seized by the LVT tax men to pay the taxes (as happens now with tax).
No extra bodies required on what I proposed either just new laws tagged onto what already, or as it seems, doesn't already exist. LVT would probably also deter land buyers and who determines the value? - then what? An end result like now where the council owns bomb sites like on Tithebarn Street that still remain unused or as unsightly make shift car parks.
LVT does not deter land buyers, as all land will be taxed by LVT. As I said, understand what is does and its aims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism
Implemented country-wide it means no personal income tax, only tax on the value of land - all land. It is not a property tax, it is a Land Value Tax. LVT regards property as the bricks on the land. Build conservatory on your house and Council Tax taxes your improvements. LVT does not, encouraging improvements. The value is determined much like the unneeded Council Tax. A tax that makes shark companies like Capita super rich today.
"The combination of a potentially wide tax base and the fact that land is
physically fixed, which makes avoidance and concealment of the asset and its tax liability very difficult, point to land value taxation as a good method
of raising revenue without distorting behaviour."
- Telegraph, February 4, 2005
"Hong Kong is perhaps the best example today of a successful implementation of a high land value tax. The Hong Kong government generates more than 35% of its revenue from land taxes. Because of this, it can keep other taxes low or non-existent, and still maintain a budget surplus."
Famous Georgists:
Leo Tolstoy, Sun Yat Sen, David Lloyd, George, Winston Churchill, George Grey, Walter Burley Griffin, Clarence Darrow, Mark Twain, Albert Einstein.