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Hi captain Kong You've done it again yes that my G/dad's "Sagamore" a Whaleback hull. She was all cargo but had 62 cabins 2nd class built on her in 1912. As you can see in the photo.At the same period I'm pretty sure there were 2 other ships named Sagamore one was a Turret hull and the other sailed on the Great Lakes. Plus a huge barge named the Sagamore.It was on an American web site and it was loaded with wheat according to what I read and was towed across the Atlantic WW1.Only to be sunk just before it got to the Bristol Channel, can't swear to that one though.The hired Trawler could well be the "Frascati" as she rescued Troops from the Beaches when they decided to pull our Troops out. Well it be OK for me to take copies of your photos and acknowledge some one. Thank You Once Again Best Regards Ken B

Hi Ken, I found the Sagamore on the "Old Ship Picture Galleries" site. the trawler one was on google. I found a site about the WW1 Trawlers but then lost it. it is in there somewhere.
The "Frascati" shows a lot of men on deck and some climbing down into the boat and it appears they are transferring to the Warship whose decks appear to be full of rescued troops. I put it on PICCASA and tried to improve it and did it in Sepia as photos were in those days.
Here is a photo of another Sagamore from that era. from the `Old Ship Picture Galleries` site. Lokks like the one from the Great Lakes.

This is the famous Dos Hermanos Bar in Havana Cuba, A little quiet now since the days of the 1950s when the ships of PSNC used to sail there from Liverpool. Brian Daley should recognise it. Many a time I went in there and woke up two weeks later in Valparaiso. Happy days. here are two videos of the Bar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UZZwAZiFmc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNmI4buq5A

I was there a fortnight before 9/11, had a great time and would recommend it to anyone who likes music ,rum and a good time, some things never change,
BrianD

The trawler DANE H227 in the livery of the Imperial Steam Fishing Co. of Hull ,for whom she was built at Beverley in 1911. Subsequently she changed hands no fewer thanseven times, in addition to being requisitioned as a minesweeper in both World Wars , before eventually being broke up in Granton in 1954.
The picture was painted by Joseph Arnold of Hull who was a trawler man before becoming a marine artist,
BrianD

Off to Fleetwood this weekend, I will get some interesting Photos and stories of Fleetwood Trawlers and tradgedies.
Back Tuesday

I received this in todays post,it is a tin type advert that my sister found in Stuttgart. I have scanned it but it does'nt give you a proper image of the real thing. The ship is embossed as are the ribbons and tug so that the picture is given greater depth. It looks like the Mauretania but there is no name,but I think it looks great anyway.
BrianD

Three shipping posters from a long gone age, two of them are for companies that were in competition for dominance of the trans-Atlantic traffic,Cunard and North German Lloyd,World War One would put paid to that competition. The third poster was for another company that played a part in the trans-Atlantic trade but figured greatly in the Pacific traffic,Canadian Pacific. Pre World War Two most of the CP fleet was manned by Canadians but the company re-flagged the fleet under the Red Duster to the detriment of the Canadian personnel.

Nice one guys.

The Fleetwood steam Trawler `GOTH` FD52, ws on a fishing trip in December 1948 to Greenland and Iceland she was due home before Christmas but went missing.
She was in severe icing and weather and tried to run for shelter from near Greenland to the North West of Iceland but vanished. Nothing more was heard of her and nothing found. 28 men died. Fleetwood was devestated such a large death toll and just before Christmas. Many years later an Icelandic trawler got her nets caught in an obstruction and when she heaved away a funnel appeared. They were going to dump it but the Skipper thought it better to return it to Reyjavik. It turned out to be the funnel of the `GOTH`. The Icelandics returned the Funnel to Fleetwood and at last the relatives of the Dead Fishermen knew where she went down and had at least a memorial.
A couple of years ago this was place outside the Asda Supermarket on the corner of Dock Street and Station Road by the big traffic island. It is not a good place to be as it is almost hidden by bushes and very few pedestrians walk past there and traffic cannot stop there. It would have been much better on the promenade overlooking the sea.
If you click on a photo then click again to enlarge it you can read the story from the memorial.

Good post Captain. Interesting but sad.
When it was obligatory to eat fish on a Friday and we turned our noses up at it. Little did we know the dangers and hardships men of the sea went through.

Don't know how well this will come out but this was my first ship, the now departed MV Lincolnshire, part of Bibby Line. Very fond memories.

Nice photo Gynsman.

This is a Charles Dixon work, It was a study of the Arcadian and would be used as a poster for the Royal Mail Steam Packet Company. The vessel looks like it is approaching port, the sun is setting in the west behind the hills and the smoke is gently curling upwards from her funnel making it look like she is running at a slow speed.An altogether glorious painting,
BrianD

Nice one Brian.

That is the real price of Fish, The price for the fish on the dockside to the trawler men was peanuts compared to the prices that the mongers charged to the customers.

I went to Fleetwood last weekend and went to see the Jacinta and take the Photos. Unfortunately it was closed to visitors so couldnt get onboard. Maybe when the tourist season opens.
I took a few photos from the dockside.
Below is a write up about her, it is from the `Fleetwood Motor Trawler` site.

M.V. Jacinta – FD159
Fleetwood Trawler – Jacinta FD159
Official Number: 341758
Built: 1972 at Wallsend by Clelands Shipbuilders Ltd
Yard Number: 322
Gross Tonnage: 599
Net Tonnage: 178
Length: 142′ 8” ft
Breadth: 32′ 1” ft
Draught: 12′ 10” ft
Owner: J Marr and Sons Ltd

History
1982: Transferred to Hull.

February 1990: Skippered by Dennis Beaumont, Jacinta set a British record catch with £270,516

09/02/1995: Left Hull under tow for Fleetwood to become the focal point of a maritime museum after engine repairs were judged too costly.

Notes
As a trawler working out of Fleetwood, The Jacinta became the most famous stern trawler of her generation. She returned to port with record catches and soon covered her building costs many times over. After years at sea, her engines failed and she seemed doomed for the scrapyard. However, a group of local Fleetwood people rallied to save her and she was bought from her owners for just one pound, and was towed home to Fleetwood. She was then fitted with a new engine to enable her to go to sea and attend heritage festivals

This is the last of the fishing boats in my collection. The wooden steam drifter Ocean Harvest YH305 ,built in 1913 for Bloomfields Ltd. of Great Yarmouth,shown hauling her nets. As hundreds of other fishing vessels, she was requisitioned for naval duties during World War 1, but thereafter she remained with Bloomfields until July 13th 1939 , when she was wrecked at Rattray Head, her crew being rescued by the Peterhead lifeboat.
This was painted by them Yarmouth artist Kenneth Luck,
BrianD

Nice pictures fellas.

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Nice photo Gynsman.

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Thanks. Took it myself.

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Thanks. Took it myself.

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You should post some more up. You got a good eye for a picture.

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It is a good photo, really professional. How did you take it Gynsman, from a helicopter? You've certainly captured the motion and speed of the ship.

Pity you resized it so small.

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It's a good painting Brian and the artist has kept everything in balance even though the dominant colour is yellow. Charles Dixon is obviously born to it.
I'm talentless when it comes to painting, I would have to stick with blue sky and green sea for it to seem right, even though it's a sunset.

Thanks for all your ship postings, really appreciate them.

Oddsocks

From the excellent site, Fleetwood and Wyre on line site

Photo from the site and the excellent Painting from Steve Farrow - Grimsby Based Trawler Artist, the sea is so real..

More of the high price for Fish. the RED FALCON of Fleetwood

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Mid-December 1959.

The week before Christmas and the whole of Fleetwood waited.

A trawler was overdue… and a silence descended on the port.
For days the sea around Skerry – Vore in the South Minch was scoured for the 449-ton Red Falcon and her crew of 19 in a massive sea and air search.

Families waited with mounting anxiety – eyes scanning the horizon in vain and hope. But the Red Falcon was lost – presumed to have been overwhelmed in heavy seas as she made for home.

Wreckage – including a rocket container box, pieces of wood believed to be floorboards on a lifeboat and two lifebuoys stamped “Red Falcon” - was washed up 25 miles north of the vessel’s last known position.

Lost with all hands – leaving 25 children fatherless and a town too stunned to celebrate Christmas.

The Red Falcon – built in 1936 – was the last coal burning trawler in the lago Steam Trawler Co. Ltd. Fleet. She was formerly named Cape Barfleur.

Her last voyage started on November 25th 1959 when she sailed for the Icelandic fishing grounds, leaving on the same tide as the Red Sabre.

The two vessels fished together at Iceland for most of the trip and turned for home at the same time.

Red Falcon was skippered by Alexander Hardy, (45) of Broadway, Fleetwood. A most experienced skipper who undertook minesweeping duties during the war.

He was in contact with Sabre’s skipper (Tom McKernan) and the skipper of the Red Knight (John Mecklenburgh) during the voyage home. Both men later thought the falcon had been engulfed by a tidal wave.

Skipper McKernan had been about 70 miles ahead of the Falcon and Skipper Mecklenburgh about 150 miles behind. Both reported severe gales – with winds gusting to 100mph. Skipper McKernan advised the Falcon to avoid the tidal race off Islay which Skipper Hardy acknowledged.

The area was known to be treacherous with swirling tides.

But relatives had received wires from the ship saying she would be docking Monday night.

As was the custom, many went to meet her in on that Monday – December 14th. It was not unusual for ships to be delayed by bad weather and families again went down to meet Falcon on the Tuesday.

The radio silence from the vessel was ominous and anxiety mounted. “We fear the worst,” said Captain E.D.W. Lawford,

DSO, RN, managing director of the owners.

And as the terrible news began to sink in, the “mission men” continued their task of comforting the bereaved. The Superintendent of the Fleetwood branch of the Royal National Mission to Deep Sea Fishermen, Mr Duncan Brown, and the Port Missioner Mr.G. Wright, visited homes.

All but one of the crew – Fireman Joseph Mair of Portsmouth – lived in Fleetwood.

The crew list was given as:

Skipper Alexander Hardy (45), Broadway, Mate George Gloss (59), Gordon Road, Chief Engineer Jim Carter (39), Macbeth Road, Second engineer William Irvine (45), Bramley Avenue, Bosun Jim Gorst, (38), Wingrove Road, Deckhands Joseph Blackburn (21), Radcliffe Road, Jack McDaid (27) North Street, Jim Read (26), Willow Street, Edward Archer (31), Belmont Road, George Harlin (24), Chatsworth Avenue, Joseph Riches (26), Knowsley Gate, Jim Morley (27), Heathfield Road, William Deery (36), Bold Street, Jack Preston (16), Radcliffe Road, Wireless Operator William Cooper (46), Heathfield Road, Cook George McLoughlin (44) Witton Grove, Assistant Cook John Coultas (20), Abbotts Walk, Fireman John Smith (33), Whinfield Avenue.

Within days an appeal fund for dependants was set up by the Mayor of Fleetwood (Councillor Jim Shaw,JP). Owners, lago, started it with a £1,000 donation and the fund eventually topped £20,000, with cash pouring in from all over the country.

A cheque for £10.10s. Was received from the Church of Scotland on the island of Tiree, Inner Hebrides. An accompanying letter said the loss of the Falcon so near their shores had made a deep impression on the community. It was on the rocky shores of isle of Mull and one from people in Oban.

Seven months after the loss an inquiry opened at Fleetwood Town Hall. It was revealed that the last radio contact with the Falcon was at 7am on December 14th. The Sabre’s skipper called up the Falcon and reported the wind as force 10 between Skerryvore and Rathlin Island. He said he had had a very rough passage but was now under the lee of Rathlin. Falcon’s skipper said he was abeam of Skerryvore Light and he would avoid the tide race.

A few minutes later the Red Knight had also been in radio contact with the Falcon and heard she was in bad weather with a “confused” sea.

The Sabre and Knight continued their homeward journey and no real anxiety was felt until Knight – which had been astern of the Falcon – docked at midnight on Tuesday, December 15th. A 3-day search was launched.

Both skippers thought a tidal wave had swamped the Falcon.

The inquiry believed it was difficult to ascertain the cause of the loss but the most probable cause was that the ship was “overwhelmed”.

And its loss left a town overwhelmed with shock and grief.


Written by The Editor · Filed Under Fleetwood History, Trawler Tales

You may have guessed by now that my favourite marine artist is Charles Dixon. Here is another of his paintings of the London river and it is entitled quite simply "The Working Thames". It is signed and dated 1889.It feels like dusk and there is a fog coming on,it's going to be another murky night ,
BrianD

Nice one guys.

just like the London River in the early 50s.

Here is a view of the QE2 in Dry Dock in DUBAI last year after being sold to Nakheel.
She is still there and never moved after 18 months. What a waste.

Another Charles Dixon study,this one is entitled "Off Blackwall",a water colour inscribed and dated !911. This is the London river in the upper reaches, it was then the busiest seaport in the Empireand we can see that sail still predominates. The river is alive with traffic,
BrianD

Here's a few I took the other day

A lighthouse ship that reminded me of the one in Liverpool, thought it was at first.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/...bf40c9598c.jpg

The MV Cill Airne which is used as a restaurant

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/...fe3c036c08.jpg


A replica of the Jeanie Johnston Barque. Not a great photo, but I'm even crapper when the sun is around

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/...eddd876f50.jpg

The Samskip Pioneer arriving in Dublin

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/...29fff6f2cc.jpg

The Elbtrader

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/...31e8bb7bd7.jpg

Sorry if I've bored ya. There's a couple more in my dublin flickr if ya wanna see them :)

Great pictures guys. Shame about the QE2 Captain. What's likely to happen to her? I remember the Thames being busy around that part of the river Brian. Not with sailing ships though.

Keep putting you photos up SS. I've never been to Dublin.

Neither had I, only had 3 or so hours of sight-seeing in the evening, and didn't have a map, so missed lots of things. Check out the link in my signature for the couple of hundred I took :)

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Nice one SS.

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Sorry but I lied. I found it on the net, but I was being truthful about it being my first ship.

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Na, nice one GM.

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A replica of the Jeanie Johnston Barque. Not a great photo, but I'm even crapper when the sun is around
Sorry if I've bored ya

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Nothing wrong with the photo. Scouse. You've caught the moment in an afternoon setting (please don't say morning:rolleyes:) and they certainly aren't boring.

Nice one.

Oddsocks

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Haven't we all at some time. Politicians do it all the time.

But it is a good pic. Might claim it myself now that it's an orphan;-)

Oddsocks

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Haven't we all at some time. Politicians do it all the time.

But it is a good pic. Might claim it myself now that it's an orphan;-)

Oddsocks

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Hey!! I took it...

OK Pablo, let's share it.
I'll have Fo'c'sle head and Amidships you can have the Ares end:)

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OK Pablo, let's share it.
I'll have Fo'c'sle head and Amidships you can have the Ares end:)

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If I knew what it was, I'd agree with you...