Well said Gnasher.:handclap:
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I thought I'd made my mind up seeing the new terminal building and museum..
I thought they were a disgrace to a World Heritage site when I saw them months ago..
totally out of being with the Liver Building etc..
I've changed my mind....
I never like them then..
they are more than a disgrace to Liverpool now that black shiny building is near completion..
that black building is awful.. it is the ugliest building I have ever seen...
The Pier Head World Heritage site area is no longer a disgrace because of them ugly buildings..
it is now a laughing stock ... end of.. full stop.
I like that 80s photo of the Pier Head. There was nothing wrong with it back then so why change it.
I think it looks infinitely better than it used to, although I do like classical buildings, I think a lot of negative comments could be the
result of nostalgia, the taking away of buildings that were part of ones own childhood. I can empathise with that idea I have a bit
of it myself. But hey they used to publicly hang people for nicking food and we are glad that has gone.
Spot on Gnasher.... nothing to do at all with nostalgia..
I never thought I'd like the new Lime St gateway... I do..
Same go's for the L1 development....fantastic for the city...
The Canal link is a great feature down The Pier Head...
we had one chance to put decent buildings around the POL building...
we blew it with all that modern shiny black shi.te...
and the other crap around it ?...
the ferry terminal building ?...awful..!
Not to worry thse building have only a 40 year life, it`s called planned obselence, look at the Royal liverpool Hospital soon to be rebuilt.
My childrens schools and church have all gone while mine is still standing.
It looks like we willhave to put up with the Royal for a long time yet.The tales doing the rounds in the building game is it might start in the next 5 years but don't hold your breath.
Some fantastic interior pics already popping up on other forums - leaked out by the workies no doubt.
Here's an article by the NML regarding our particular interest.
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/m...culptures.aspx
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New Museum of Liverpool has 150,000 visitors in two weeks
THE new Museum of Liverpool has welcomed more than 150,000 visitors since it opened its doors to the public two weeks ago.
The £72m waterfront attraction hit the landmark total yesterday.
Museum bosses revealed it has been averaging 12,500 visitors a day – three times the previous record set by National Museums Liverpool stablemate World Museum Liverpool – since it opened a fortnight ago today.
That included more than 13,000 people who flocked to the Mann Island site during its opening day on July 19.
Meanwhile, the record attendance so far was on Saturday, July 23, during the city’s waterfront weekend, when the venue extended its opening hours and 20,577 people came through the doors in 12 hours.
The Museum of Liverpool’s acting deputy director Zelda Baveystock said: “It has been a rollercoaster.
“We always knew there would be a high level of interest in the museum, but this is brilliant.
“We are delighted to have so many people wanting to come and see the results of our work.
“It does feel very, very busy.”
She said the Little Liverpool gallery, aimed at youngsters under six, had been operating at capacity, while the other galleries – People’s Republic, Wondrous Place and Global City – had also been thronged with crowds.
Ms Baveystock added: “It is testament to how many people worked on the project.
“We have had lots of people interacting with the displays, trying out things they have done or contributed to.”
NML bosses had estimated the Museum of Liverpool would attract more than 750,000 visitors in its first year, but that target looks set to be eclipsed, even if the current high visitor numbers settle down after the initial novelty of the new landmark and the busy school summer holidays.
The venue, which is free to visit, is the largest newly-built national museum in the UK in more than a century and features more than 6,000 objects across 8,000sq m of public space.
They include the stage where Beatles John Lennon and Paul McCartney first met in 1957; the first Ford Anglia off the Ford’s Halewood production line in 1963; 360° immersive films about football in Merseyside and The Beatles; cycling legend Chris Boardman’s famous Lotus Sport bike; and a reconstruction of typical court housing.
The second phase of the museum’s opening, which includes the Overhead Railway, History Detectives, Great Port and Kings Regiment galleries, is due to take place before Christmas.
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Couldn't reach the page your link gave, Ged. We both know where we stand on the issue, no need to debate it any further.:PDT11
Statistics, ****ed statistics, to quote another old timer.:002:
Best wishes, Ged.
Chas:PDT_Aliboronz_24:
Cheers Chas, you just can't argue with attendance figures - or so the kopites tell me ;)
Museum of Liverpool visitor figures reach 250,000 in one month
by Catherine Jones, Liverpool EchoAug 16 2011
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THE new Museum of Liverpool was celebrating today after its visitor figures hit the 250,000 mark.
The £72m waterfront landmark opened four weeks ago today.
Museum bosses had predicted 78,000 visitors in the first month of opening, but the response from the public has been more than three times that with an average of 8,300 a day.
And the 250,000 figure equates to more than half the entire population of Liverpool, or five times the capacity of either Anfield or Goodison.
Among those who have dropped in to the Mann Island museum is current Reds’ star Jamie Carragher who paid a visit with his young family.
He said: “I really enjoyed the Wondrous Place gallery with all the sporting memorabilia. The film about Merseyside football is very special and really captures what it means to go to the match and be a Red or a Blue.
“I took the whole family and we all had a great time. I think the new museum will be massively popular not just with Merseysiders but also with tourists and visitors to the city too.”
The first phase of the new museum, which tells the story of Liverpool and its people, opened on July 19.
It includes the Wondrous Place and People’s Republic galleries on the second floor which both boast giant picture windows with views over the Albert Dock and Three Graces.
The Global City, Skylight and Little Liverpool galleries are also open to the public.
The second phase of the building, featuring the Overhead Railway, History Detectives, Great Port, and Kings Regiment galleries, is due to open before Christmas.
Museum of Liverpool director Janet Dugdale said: “The visitor figures are staggering. We’re thrilled with the success of the new museum.
“To get a quarter of a million people through the doors in the first month is fantastic. There’s a real buzz of excitement in the museum and it’s so nice to see so many people enjoying themselves.”
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Can yer quote me some figures this time next year please,Ged. :)Quote:
Museum of Liverpool visitor figures reach 250,000 in one month
I'm still stumped how they came up with these figures?
Oh what fun you are George and your apparent happiness to dislike a Liverpool success story. Ah well, it takes all sorts as they say. :002:
Just being honest,Ged....you cannot come up with a figure without some sort of way of documenting that figure with a flawless system and there is none being used there.
Basically its Hype to get joe blogs down there to see what all the fuss is about. :)
So naive George! All Uk's galleries give attendance figures, eg, The British museum, the most visited have just given figures as just under 6m for last year. If you've not been, you can't really comment fairly on the crowds that people are witnessing with their own two eyes and all remarking about but I won't bore you with good news stories as that goes against your grain. :PDT11
We know,but the museums cannot answer my Q,and thats how they know how many have passed through the doors? bearing in mind many visitors are returning visitors time and time again.Quote:
So naive George! All Uk's galleries give attendance figures
My estimate give or take a thousand would be 80,000 to the new museum and thats being generous. :)
Just a thought , how many visitors have there been to the albert dock?
Do you think the Albert dock is being upstaged a little these days ?
I have to admit to not visiting there in good while now. I have been quite a lot to the water front, but not actually into the Albert Dock where the shops and cafes are. I can't remember the last time I went in there. I seem to have forgotten about it somehow - there is so much going on elsewhere.
There is one figure you can believe George the first hour before it was officially opened there were 400 plus staff in there, as they printed 400 invitations. After that you think of a number as there is nobody counting.
Did you know there is a bus stop in Kirkby that has 2,000 visitors a day ?
Joe and Linda. You have both been down to the new museum. Was it empty. Just a thought because George can estimate 80 thou from the comfort of his armchair :PDT_Piratz_26:
I went to the Albert dock last Sunday after my walk around the museum and the piermasters house and every cafe seat was taken and the gift shops were rammed with tourists - but these people have always come down there you know - always.
yes, the museum has been chocka.
I know someone who works there too and they said it's been mad in there.
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.. just thinking now, must make an effort to visit the Albert Dock soon.
Wasn't a hype conspiracy theorist was it perchance Linda?
That person doesn't think it wasn't the Titanic that sunk as well do they or that Dodi and Di were on it and those killed in Paris were impersonators??? :002:
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Spotted this today in the Vauxhall area through a living room (or is it kitchen) window.
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It was George with a keen eye or two trained on the new museum to see how quiet it all is.
Oh the crystal chandeliers light up the paintings on your wall
The marble Statutes are standing statley in the hall
But a paper smile only last a while and then it fades away
When the news wears off on your crystal chandelier
:)
Unfortunately (for him) but not Liverpool, this is what he saw. Bah humbug.
(Please use the scroll bar to see EVEN MORE people ha ha)
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Why would someone from Liverpool on a forum and a thread that bigs up Liverpool take delight on wanting to see something fail, that's what I can't understand. It's here now so embrace it. Wait until the new galleries open, I know people who haven't even been at all yet and want to see the FULL experience. The bad news for them is, it'll still be chocker block and they'll have to go like me, time and time again. I'm just glad i'm not so obstinate as to miss out on this very welcome addition to the city. But each to their own eh!
Ged,I am not impressed with the new museum,we did not need it and redevelopement of the city center seems to be more important than the living conditions on the outskirts of the city center.
Does that piece of junk benefit youth? because youth has nothing to entertain themselves outside the city center,they the developers will not plough any money into youth activity centers in many areas of Liverpool.
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You have a skewed notion of things George.
When Europe, the government, the lottery fund, NWDA or whoever designate certain money to a dept whether it be war, foreign aid, the arts, housing or whatever, then that's where it's ring fenced for. How come we can afford 10m for the businesses looted and burnt if we're skint. How come we can afford foreign aid if we're skint. It may be the wrong way to do things but that's the way it is done. The city centre does not suffer because of this, nor private money of Peel or Grosvenor or anyone else.
There are plenty of youths in the new museum, in fact there is a little Liverpool gallery just for them and plenty of educational things for them to see and do in there. Interactive push button things, Q&A placards etc - just like the World museum has become child friendly and is seeing the benefits. The council and youth clubs have nothing to do with this - it's very separate - another issue. You can still like this and still want to have more youth clubs - it's not a one or the other matter.
I think that is the problem Ged there is too many visitors so you are not able to look at objects in comfort.
My grandchildren said the same thing ,that is one of the reasons they didn`t like it.
I am a bit concerned, that looking at the Central library plans it looks like they are going the same way as the museum sweeping staircases etc,and less than half the books as the old one.
Yes, this futuristic look may be 'sort of' ok in a new design like the museum but I didn't personally see anything wrong with a lot in the Central library. I don't by any means let the new museum escape totally, I think the galleries could have been bigger and that screen on the way into the peoples republic is so popular that hoardes of people stop to watch it andit clogs the entrance up, even one of the volunteer staff members mentioned this to me as how is he supposed to keep people moving when something is put there for them to watch. Then the Anglia fiasco of course. However, as a building I think we did need it but it should have been bigger, maybe the same size again at basement level but for the river/water levels. It's sure better than just more pavement - that brings nobody down there.
It's pretty rudimentary, the counting of people in museums. A sensor basically counts each time an infa-red line is broken on the door. Sort of like goal line technology. If you go more than once, you do get counted again.
It is that and so is the electronic turnstlye.Quote:
It's pretty rudimentary
The only known fairly accurate way is the magnet token ie you're given a magnetic token and a beep sounds when the token is passed or the person holding the token has passed the loop system,this particular is extremely usefull in building security ie the token is still with the person till they leave the exit,this then counts how many people have entered and how many people have left and on computer the security can check how many people are still in the building in the event of a fire or bomb scare?
But again it still fails on a true count via a person on returning visits to the building but on a daily basis its flawless.
Bit like the clothes shop where they have security tag badges on the clothes. :)
Yes, that's right. It is here now so we should embrace it.
I know lots of people who are looking forward to seeing it but they are waiting a little longer until the crowds die down a bit and they can view at a more leisurely pace. I think it is always going to busy in there though. Perhaps quieter on the week days when the kids are back in school ( but then there might be school parties):snf (41):
Whether you are for or against, it is great that it is attracting people to visit the waterfront and the Pier head is buzzing again. Also, don't forget - it has created employment too.
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Ha ha - you'll love this
Come onLIVERPOOL
Museum of Liverpool shorlisted for World Building of the Year
by Laura Davis, Liverpool Daily PostAug 18 2011
THE Museum of Liverpool has been shortlisted for World Building of the Year 2011 alongside an Estonian theatre made of straw, a bamboo office in India and a moving gallery in New York.
Architects 3XN are invited to present its design to a panel of experts at the World Architecture Festival held in Barcelona this November.
A jury, headed by internationally renowned New York architect Michael Sorkin, will make the final decision.
The Pier Head museum, which opened last month, is up against 280 other projects, chosen from 704 entries across the globe.
It is also in the running for the OpenBuildings People’s Choice Award, voted for by members of the public at http://openbuildings.com/peoples_choice/waf/leaderboard
Paul Finch, World Architecture Festival programme director, said: “The awards celebrate architectural excellence the world over and allow architects to showcase their talent and their unique responses to the ever-changing economic climate.
“There is now an increasing need for innovative approaches to architecture, inspiring architects and designers to think in new ways about buildings. It’s encouraging that the quality of this year’s entries is the highest we’ve ever seen, and we look forward to seeing which projects both the judges select as the winners.”
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