Proud Scouser, with a dabbling of Welsh and Irish.
bore yourself silly at my Flickr page...anorak central!
That shot looks good framed with the branches
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Proud Scouser, with a dabbling of Welsh and Irish.
bore yourself silly at my Flickr page...anorak central!
Cross and milestone, Ince Blundell. I know a few crosses around Sefton, which I'll pick-off this summer. These are at the Northern Boundary of Ince Blundell (junction of Lady Green Lane/Scaffold Lane)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2563250...n/photostream/
look forward to them Marky. be nice to see places I can't get to
Proud Scouser, with a dabbling of Welsh and Irish.
bore yourself silly at my Flickr page...anorak central!
What about the cross in Woolton Village ?
Will have to try and post a photo of it (if no one does it before me!)
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When I photographed Cronton Cross (post No. 57), I'd intended to also photograph Rainhill Cross, but I didn't have the time. Now through the wonders of Google Streetview, here it is:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...=12,41.09,,0,5
Someone already has this on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7738503@N05/1322077611
Christopher T. George
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Editor, Loch Raven Review
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One of the ancient Liverpool crosses was called St Patrick's Cross does anyone have access to any drawings of it? There are some intriguing traditions in Liverpool associated with St Patrick that may have originated in the 10th Century settlement of the area by Vikings from Ireland rather than St Patrick himself. Here is a webpage about this Irish Viking settlement:-
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/
Thomas Burke discusses St Patrick's Cross in his "Catholic History of Liverpool":-
"By this time the Jesuits had built a chapel in Lumber Street, Old Hall Street, and dedicated it to the Blessed Virgin under the title of St. Mary. It was in the fitness of things that the site was chosen. Hard by was the pre-Reformation foundation in Chapel Street, while in the immediate neighbourhood was the spot where a well-founded tradition says St. Patrick preached on his way to the Isle of Man.
In Marybone, within a few yards of the present church of Holy Cross, a water fountain marks the place on which stood for centuries St. Patrick's Cross, as marked on old maps of the town, and which was in existence as late as 1775. In an Act of Parliament passed in 1771, to secure the repair of the road between Preston and Liverpool, the cross is specially named, because the street now called Marybone was then 'the road to Ormskirk'.
The neighbourhood possessed other traditions of Ireland's patron saint, the street between Cheapside and Hatton Garden bearing the name of St. Patrick's Hill."
http://www.archive.org/stream/cathol...0burk_djvu.txt
Blue
Hello Blue
I might be wrong but I think a connection of the Irish Vikings to St. Patrick's Cross does not seem too likely. The cross is probably of a later date. I'll do some digging and come back with some information on the cross hopefully.
Cheers
Chris
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Hmm... the Viking settlement of the Northwest was in the tenth century, St Patrick died in the first half of the fifth century so I imagine a cult would be well established.
The Vikings settling in the NW would have probably been christianised, probably with Celtic Christianity which but a lot of store in Saints and holy men, so there could be a connection.
On another note: here is a strange cross.
This is built into the wall at the end of St Michael's Road in the Hamlet. I'd like to know more about it.
Blue, scroll down to see the memorial that currently stands at where St. Patrick was supposed to have preached before leaving for Ireland.
(sorry link won't work)
Go to www.scottiepress.org
then click archive, then click Holy Cross parish.
Hi Fortinian
I have no reason to think that the cross in St. Michaels in the Hamlet is genuinely old. It seems of a piece with the Victorian Gothic in which the community was built, or perhaps with the supposed "castle" in Cain's Fields that Robert Griffiths' History of the Royal and Ancient Park of Toxteth that was actually a Victorian folly and described as such by Griffiths.
Chris
Christopher T. George
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Indeed, I suspect its a nice bit of Victorian 'Keltic' revivalism. I'm just wondering if it was added as a nod to the monastic names that John Cragg gave to his houses: The Friary, The Cloisters, The Priory etc...
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