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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Oh well John each to their own opinion, shame you think like that.
    I respect everyones right to their opinion, everyone doesn't think the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    I respect everyones right to their opinion, everyone doesn't think the same way.
    " If you know your history, then you would know where you coming from".


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    All I am saying is that his sexual preferences don't come in to this. I know it must have been difficult for Brian during that era to disguise his true sexual identity. Gays were openly frowned upon and often prosecuted at that time.
    I always found him to be a very shy and un-assuming person, who was a gentleman in every visible way. He was deeply respected by most of the bands and he even had time to chat with little raggamuffins like me.
    If he was alive now and knew that they intended to dedicate a statue to him ~ ~ he would run 10 miles before he packed his suitcase.

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    Of all the heroes and heroines, of all the people of note, and all the statues of the famous, how are we to know who was gay and who wasn't.
    I bet there must be some who were gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    All I am saying is that his sexual preferences don't come in to this. I know it must have been difficult for Brian during that era to disguise his true sexual identity. Gays were openly frowned upon and often prosecuted at that time.
    I always found him to be a very shy and un-assuming person, who was a gentleman in every visible way. He was deeply respected by most of the bands and he even had time to chat with little raggamuffins like me.
    If he was alive now and knew that they intended to dedicate a statue to him ~ ~ he would run 10 miles before he packed his suitcase.

    Even in Dublin a few months ago, Molly, Gerry and I walked across St. Stephen's Green and admired a magnificent statue of Oscar Wilde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John(Zappa) View Post
    No way would I like a statue of Epstein.
    Ken dodd would be more suitable.
    As Ged said Noel Chavasse even.
    A real man that we could all appreciate,a man that my great grandad would of been proud of.Not a homosexual
    Noel Chavasse?
    Have you heard of Wilfred Owen, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    Even in Dublin a few months ago, Molly, Gerry and I walked across St. Stephen's Green and admired a magnificent statue of Oscar Wilde.

    I'd love to see that statue.

    of course, not all gays were as open as Oscar Wilde.
    It doesn't need me to state the obvious - that in times gone by, not all gays were 'out' about their sexuality. So therefore, it stands to reason that there will be some great men and women who were gay and we might not be aware of the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Noel Chavasse?
    Have you heard of Wilfred Owen, then?

    There's a religious sect in America that would love you.
    Don't get me going on some god squad rant.
    Foolish rules of ancient dates designed to make you all feel great!
    God made us all to be just like him so if we're dumb then god is dumb-and maybe a little ugly on the side!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Noel Chavasse?
    Have you heard of Wilfred Owen, then?

    There's a religious sect in America that would love you.
    WW1 poet.
    I forgot that.

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    Isn,t it funny how we all drop our guard at times; and the more we try to be accepted in society or here on the forum even, how our real self takes over when an ugly word or thread raises its eyes.

    I,ve seen silly posts on here by three people I respected last week, but tonight that respect has been dragged in the dirt.

    You should be ashamed of yourselves as I am ashamed of you.

    Keep it clean now lads or I will take my posts elsewhere and not be part of this charade of a forum that is getting just like scouse house.

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    Default Let the beatles pay for Epstein statue

    Let the beatles and the groups he managed pay for the statue, They have the money gained from his hard work not the people of liverpool

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    What is the matter with everyone these last couple of days?

    Will you please remember forum rule 1 - Be polite and friendly!

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    Memorial to gay Beatles manager gains support

    1st February 2008 15:35
    PinkNews.co.uk staff writer

    LGBT activists in Liverpool have begun a campaign to honour one of the city's most prominent gay residents.

    Brian Epstein was one of the most influential figures in the 'Mersey Beat' movement in the early 1960s.

    As well as managing The Beatles until his death in 1967, he launched the careers of Cilla Black and Gerry and the Pacemakers.

    Gary Everett, artistic director of Liverpool's annual LGBT arts festival Homotopia, told the Liverpool Echo:

    "The time is right for Epstein’s vast legacy, to the city and to the world, to be remembered.

    "A public statue is a fitting way to honour the vast contribution he made to popular culture."

    Liverpool is European Capital of Culture 2008.

    Epstein, born in the city, was only 32 when he died of a drug overdose in his London home.

    His death had a profound effect on The Beatles.

    "If anyone was the Fifth Beatle, it was Brian," said Paul McCartney. After his death the group increasingly grew apart.

    A local councillor has given his backing to an Epstein memorial.

    Councillor Eddie Clein put a motion before Liverpool City Council this week supporting the proposal.

    "Without Brian Epstein, The Beatles wouldn't have been what they were," he said.

    "They would have been another Liverpool group kicking around the clubs.

    "I believe we’re doing the right thing in fully supporting a memorial."

    Source: Pink News

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    I don't understand how anyone would want a statue of a drug addict erected in their own city.
    Most people would prefer Ken Dodd AND THAT'S A FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johno View Post
    Let the beatles and the groups he managed pay for the statue, They have the money gained from his hard work not the people of liverpool
    Yeah I agree and put the statue in a Beatles museum (out the way).

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