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    Just a thought , how many visitors have there been to the albert dock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grekko View Post
    Just a thought , how many visitors have there been to the albert dock?
    Do you think the Albert dock is being upstaged a little these days ?
    I have to admit to not visiting there in good while now. I have been quite a lot to the water front, but not actually into the Albert Dock where the shops and cafes are. I can't remember the last time I went in there. I seem to have forgotten about it somehow - there is so much going on elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    Do you think the Albert dock is being upstaged a little these days ?
    I have to admit to not visiting there in good while now. I have been quite a lot to the water front, but not actually into the Albert Dock where the shops and cafes are. I can't remember the last time I went in there. I seem to have forgotten about it somehow - there is so much going on elsewhere.
    Great to see crowds back down by the river isn't it?

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    There is one figure you can believe George the first hour before it was officially opened there were 400 plus staff in there, as they printed 400 invitations. After that you think of a number as there is nobody counting.
    Did you know there is a bus stop in Kirkby that has 2,000 visitors a day ?
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    Joe and Linda. You have both been down to the new museum. Was it empty. Just a thought because George can estimate 80 thou from the comfort of his armchair

    I went to the Albert dock last Sunday after my walk around the museum and the piermasters house and every cafe seat was taken and the gift shops were rammed with tourists - but these people have always come down there you know - always.
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    yes, the museum has been chocka.

    I know someone who works there too and they said it's been mad in there.

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    .. just thinking now, must make an effort to visit the Albert Dock soon.

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    Wasn't a hype conspiracy theorist was it perchance Linda?

    That person doesn't think it wasn't the Titanic that sunk as well do they or that Dodi and Di were on it and those killed in Paris were impersonators???

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    Oh the crystal chandeliers light up the paintings on your wall
    The marble Statutes are standing statley in the hall
    But a paper smile only last a while and then it fades away
    When the news wears off on your crystal chandelier


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    Unfortunately (for him) but not Liverpool, this is what he saw. Bah humbug.

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    Oh the crystal chandeliers light up the paintings on your wall
    The marble Statutes are standing statley in the hall
    But a paper smile only last a while and then it fades away
    When the news wears off on your crystal chandelier

    Why would someone from Liverpool on a forum and a thread that bigs up Liverpool take delight on wanting to see something fail, that's what I can't understand. It's here now so embrace it. Wait until the new galleries open, I know people who haven't even been at all yet and want to see the FULL experience. The bad news for them is, it'll still be chocker block and they'll have to go like me, time and time again. I'm just glad i'm not so obstinate as to miss out on this very welcome addition to the city. But each to their own eh!
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    Ged,I am not impressed with the new museum,we did not need it and redevelopement of the city center seems to be more important than the living conditions on the outskirts of the city center.

    Does that piece of junk benefit youth? because youth has nothing to entertain themselves outside the city center,they the developers will not plough any money into youth activity centers in many areas of Liverpool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgePorgie View Post
    Ged,I am not impressed with the new museum,we did not need it and redevelopement of the city center seems to be more important than the living conditions on the outskirts of the city center.

    Does that piece of junk benefit youth? because youth has nothing to entertain themselves outside the city center,they the developers will not plough any money into youth activity centers in many areas of Liverpool.
    You have a skewed notion of things George.

    When Europe, the government, the lottery fund, NWDA or whoever designate certain money to a dept whether it be war, foreign aid, the arts, housing or whatever, then that's where it's ring fenced for. How come we can afford 10m for the businesses looted and burnt if we're skint. How come we can afford foreign aid if we're skint. It may be the wrong way to do things but that's the way it is done. The city centre does not suffer because of this, nor private money of Peel or Grosvenor or anyone else.

    There are plenty of youths in the new museum, in fact there is a little Liverpool gallery just for them and plenty of educational things for them to see and do in there. Interactive push button things, Q&A placards etc - just like the World museum has become child friendly and is seeing the benefits. The council and youth clubs have nothing to do with this - it's very separate - another issue. You can still like this and still want to have more youth clubs - it's not a one or the other matter.
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    I think that is the problem Ged there is too many visitors so you are not able to look at objects in comfort.
    My grandchildren said the same thing ,that is one of the reasons they didn`t like it.

    I am a bit concerned, that looking at the Central library plans it looks like they are going the same way as the museum sweeping staircases etc,and less than half the books as the old one.
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    Yes, this futuristic look may be 'sort of' ok in a new design like the museum but I didn't personally see anything wrong with a lot in the Central library. I don't by any means let the new museum escape totally, I think the galleries could have been bigger and that screen on the way into the peoples republic is so popular that hoardes of people stop to watch it andit clogs the entrance up, even one of the volunteer staff members mentioned this to me as how is he supposed to keep people moving when something is put there for them to watch. Then the Anglia fiasco of course. However, as a building I think we did need it but it should have been bigger, maybe the same size again at basement level but for the river/water levels. It's sure better than just more pavement - that brings nobody down there.
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    It's pretty rudimentary, the counting of people in museums. A sensor basically counts each time an infa-red line is broken on the door. Sort of like goal line technology. If you go more than once, you do get counted again.


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    It's pretty rudimentary
    It is that and so is the electronic turnstlye.

    The only known fairly accurate way is the magnet token ie you're given a magnetic token and a beep sounds when the token is passed or the person holding the token has passed the loop system,this particular is extremely usefull in building security ie the token is still with the person till they leave the exit,this then counts how many people have entered and how many people have left and on computer the security can check how many people are still in the building in the event of a fire or bomb scare?

    But again it still fails on a true count via a person on returning visits to the building but on a daily basis its flawless.

    Bit like the clothes shop where they have security tag badges on the clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    It's here now so embrace it. Wait until the new galleries open, I know people who haven't even been at all yet and want to see the FULL experience. The bad news for them is, it'll still be chocker block and they'll have to go like me, time and time again. I'm just glad i'm not so obstinate as to miss out on this very welcome addition to the city. But each to their own eh!
    Yes, that's right. It is here now so we should embrace it.
    I know lots of people who are looking forward to seeing it but they are waiting a little longer until the crowds die down a bit and they can view at a more leisurely pace. I think it is always going to busy in there though. Perhaps quieter on the week days when the kids are back in school ( but then there might be school parties)
    Whether you are for or against, it is great that it is attracting people to visit the waterfront and the Pier head is buzzing again. Also, don't forget - it has created employment too.

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    Ha ha - you'll love this

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    Museum of Liverpool shorlisted for World Building of the Year
    by Laura Davis, Liverpool Daily PostAug 18 2011

    THE Museum of Liverpool has been shortlisted for World Building of the Year 2011 alongside an Estonian theatre made of straw, a bamboo office in India and a moving gallery in New York.

    Architects 3XN are invited to present its design to a panel of experts at the World Architecture Festival held in Barcelona this November.

    A jury, headed by internationally renowned New York architect Michael Sorkin, will make the final decision.

    The Pier Head museum, which opened last month, is up against 280 other projects, chosen from 704 entries across the globe.

    It is also in the running for the OpenBuildings People’s Choice Award, voted for by members of the public at http://openbuildings.com/peoples_choice/waf/leaderboard

    Paul Finch, World Architecture Festival programme director, said: “The awards celebrate architectural excellence the world over and allow architects to showcase their talent and their unique responses to the ever-changing economic climate.

    “There is now an increasing need for innovative approaches to architecture, inspiring architects and designers to think in new ways about buildings. It’s encouraging that the quality of this year’s entries is the highest we’ve ever seen, and we look forward to seeing which projects both the judges select as the winners.”



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    Shouldn`t that read worst not world?
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    There was one time when I think Steers house would have been the 'in building' to see from this view. Dark days indeed and oh how we've moved on.
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    There is 1 question I love answered when I worked for St helen's buses we used to have a drop back for an hour and alway's went to mann island for a cuppa and a bacon butty BUT WHERE & WHO named it MANN ISLAND?

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    MANN ISLAND 3
    Originally Mersey Island. It was an artificial island between George's Dock and Canning Dock on three sides and the Mersey on the west. It lost its water on the north and east sides with the conversion of George's Dock into the building site for the Pier Head buildings. It gets its name from John Mann, an oil-stone dealer, who died there in 1784.

    The area was also known as Nova Scotia and featured on a time team archiology dig a few years ago.
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    It was named after John Mann sometime in the 17century? Its original name was Mersey Island and has now ceased to be an Island due to the Georges dock being filled in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs dad View Post
    There is one figure you can believe George the first hour before it was officially opened there were 400 plus staff in there, as they printed 400 invitations. After that you think of a number as there is nobody counting.
    Did you know there is a bus stop in Kirkby that has 2,000 visitors a day ?
    gregs dad hahahahah Hmmm is that the one outside the kirby bus trminus/garage?

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    MANN ISLAND 3
    Originally Mersey Island. It was an artificial island between George's Dock and Canning Dock on three sides and the Mersey on the west. It lost its water on the north and east sides with the conversion of George's Dock into the building site for the Pier Head buildings. It gets its name from John Mann, an oil-stone dealer, who died there in 1784.

    The area was also known as Nova Scotia and featured on a time team archiology dig a few years ago.
    o I say we have some very INTELLAGENT people on this site thank you for the answer I am very thankfully for years I always wonderd where it came from and to think with all the proggress going on it's actually still kept it's name thank you again GENTS

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