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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    These people aren't only offered money, they are also offered new premises. The reason they are

    offered a pittance is because their properties are only worth a pittance, although I wouldn't call 120,000 a pittance when they are also being offered

    alternative premises aswell!
    I don't know the details of the Lime St. offers but don't expect they differ too much from those in other areas.

    Admittedly the offers to businesses have not been as derisory as those to individual homeowners. This is a case I know of from the Kensington area - offered


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    38,000 - independently valued at 59,000 - eventually settled at 58,000 - had to pay 89,500 for another property - result 31,500 out of pocket.

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    to properties only being worth a pittance - that in many cases results in a large part from the regeneration activity itself.

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    Henry Bohn's bookshop is one of the 2 businesses affected.
    The manager says

    he's been there nearly 8 years.
    What puzzles me is that he moved from Berry Street to Lime Street, and the Berry Street shop was then refurbished, and

    has remained empty ever since!
    Not the manager's fault, of course, but still strange.

    The answer about Concourse House seems to be to cover it up

    with an advert that'll generate some money for the 2 years or so that it will still be with us.
    This ad will show the dirt even more quickly than the one

    on the former ABC Cinema (a Listed Building).
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    Seems to me that the planners and

    developers underestimated the increase in Liverpool property prices and that we're now all paying for it. There's already several million pound of public

    money gone to meet the shortfall for the Edge Lane demolition, (I'm not even sure what that project's about anymore except that it clearly has nothing to

    do with improving traffic flow). Maybe Lime St. is different - probably is just a case of one group of capitalists trying to screw another.

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    The people in these shops are no more than chancers, screwing the city for what they can get and to hell with everyone

    else. They could take their scruffy businesses anywhere.
    I'd bulldoze the buildings with them inside!
    As Al Pacino, playing the New York mayor said in

    the film City Hall, "We're trying to build a city here, not a democracy".

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    Must admit I

    agree with you on that one.
    It's very irritating that a few scruffy shops are holding up progress.
    I'd brush them aside in a moment !! They are an

    eyesore and always have been.
    They are just being awkward and it looks to me as though they are hanging on there trying to see what they can get out of

    it.

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    I believe Chieftain have put in another planning application for the site that they wanted to build a 32 storey tower on next to the student accomodation,this time at a much reduced height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    I believe Chieftain have put in another planning application for the site that they wanted to build a 32 storey tower on next to the student accomodation,this time at a much reduced height.
    What a surprise, NOT!!! I kind of feel sorry for these companies. They come forward with amazing proposals only to be knocked back by the planners or some heritage group, although, the fact that they still want to build something there shows that they do have faith in Liverpool and are commited to the city. We don't realise just how appealing Liverpool is to developers. It is far more appealing than places like Manchester or Birmingham and we must capitalise on that. Repeatedly knocking back proposals could lead to developers just giving up and going to other less desirable cities instead.

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    Default LIME STREET STATION 2 MILLION REVAMP

    A MAJOR revamp of Liverpool's Lime Street Station got under way yesterday, in a project that will transform the city centre's main transport hub.

    The 2m scheme will give the interior of the station a facelift before the city's Capital of Culture year with work expected to be completed by May next year.

    Millions of travellers entering the gateway to the city will see modernised information screens and a fresh interior of the Grade II listed structure.

    Improvements will include a new southern concourse for the station, new flooring, new information screens, a relocated taxi rank, extra cycle parking, extra seating and new disabled spaces created in the short stay car park.

    Cllr Mark Dowd, chairman of Merseytravel, said: "Lime Street Station is such an important gateway for the region, and first impressions are important.

    "At the moment, the impression we are giving the millions of people every year isn't great, particularly inside the station.

    "The station flooring adjacent to the trains has remained untouched since before Beatle Mania. Our investment will help to change that.

    "Lime Street Station is going to be very important over the next two years, with Liverpool's birthday and the 2008 celebrations, but this is also about leaving a lasting legacy of improvement that will shape people's perceptions for many years to come."

    Network Rail, on behalf of Merseytravel, will carry out the work near to Platforms 7, 8 and 9 over the next six months.

    Neil Scales, chief executive and director general of Merseytravel, said: "We will be working to ensure we cause very little disruption while these internal works take place, but they are important if Lime Street Station is to reflect the changing, growing face of Liverpool and the wider region."

    In the new design, contrasting coloured flooring tiles will define the walkways and seating areas and slip-resistant ceramic tiles will modernise the inside of the station.

    The taxi pick up/drop off point for the station will be relocated from the existing Lord Nelson Street side to the Skelhorne Street part of the station.

    And the screen that separates the south concourse of the station will be relocated for better access to the platforms and to the Skelhorne Street entrance and exit of the station.

    Once completed, the short-stay car park will include 29 spaces, including four blue badge spaces.

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    RAIL officials dealt Liverpool a major blow last night when they ruled out an upgrade of Lime Street station to match the transformation at Manchester Piccadilly. more
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    "The station is being given a small-scale facelift, costing 2m, to make its interior more attractive before the Capital of Culture year in 2008.

    New flooring and new information screens will be put in near platforms 7, 8 and 9, as well as extra cycle parking, extra seating and new disabled spaces in the short stay car park

    But, in sharp contrast, around 110m was spent over five years at Piccadilly Station, to prepare it for an influx of visitors for the 2003 Commonwealth Games"

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    Interested to know what profit they made investing all this money in Manchester Piccadilly. Bad memories of this station. Our footy train was always bricked 5 minutes after departing from there in the 70s/80s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    RAIL officials dealt Liverpool a major blow last night when they ruled out an upgrade of Lime Street station to match the transformation at Manchester Piccadilly. more
    To be honest, I don't think it needs a major facelift. The roof has recently been completely re-furbished and a new cctv system was installed less than a year ago. I think a minor refurbishment is all that is needed, which is what is happening with new signs and new flooring. Lime street is an attractive station both inside and out (after those shops have gone), Manchester Piccadilly before its major refurb was an absolute dump and in need of huge investment, Lime street isn't.

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    Piccadilly may have been a dump but did it still need 50 times as much more spending on it than Liverpool? Where was the "business case" then. As always one rule for Manchester one rule for Liverpool.

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    Lime Street Station IS a dump and needs major refurbishment, its pathetic when compared to other main line stations in big cities.
    The city centre movement strategy in Lime Street was geared to provide better access to the station to the detriment of other routes and access to shops etc. with the resulting traffic chaos. What is the point when Liverpool is being constantly degraded by national bodies, cutting routes and fair shares of funding?
    We don't need anyone saying they are not sure if this is needed; this comment was made too often about the trams and only contributed to their demise.
    The bias towards our ugly sister down the M62 borders on racism at times.
    They are the real city for hand-outs while we are stuck with the stigma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Lime Street Station IS a dump and needs major refurbishment, its pathetic when compared to other main line stations in big cities.
    It's a million times better than Birmingham New Street (although that is about to be redeveloped).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Lime Street Station IS a dump and needs major refurbishment, its pathetic when compared to other main line stations in big cities.
    The city centre movement strategy in Lime Street was geared to provide better access to the station to the detriment of other routes and access to shops etc. with the resulting traffic chaos. What is the point when Liverpool is being constantly degraded by national bodies, cutting routes and fair shares of funding?
    We don't need anyone saying they are not sure if this is needed; this comment was made too often about the trams and only contributed to their demise.
    The bias towards our ugly sister down the M62 borders on racism at times.
    They are the real city for hand-outs while we are stuck with the stigma.

    The head of Network Rail though says we should just be grateful for the new roof

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    That's not on the Concourse house site though ? It looks like Bolton st on the old Ribble bus depot. Is the Lime street frontage just being paved when those shops have gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    That's not on the Concourse house site though ? It looks like Bolton st on the old Ribble bus depot. Is the Lime street frontage just being paved when those shops have gone?
    Correct. That isn't concourse house. The area outside Lime street will be paved on different levels with seating and lighting. Have a look at earlier threads.

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    I heard virgin trains are going to start handing out hardhats and hi-viz jackets on inbound trains to lime street
    Don't believe everything you hear..... Just everything you say.

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    That's the site of the Ribble Bus Station.
    For the ex-Pats, the 2 other blocks are already built.
    (And the Electric generating station [or whatever it is] has been air-brushed out!).

    Are we still getting a tall glass tower on the Concourse House site?
    I always thought 2 so close together would be rather messy.
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    The tower is still going up as far as I know. That proposal above certainly fits in well with the surrounding buildings, like the missing jigsaw piece.
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    Why have those advertising covers been taken off already? I wonder if it is going to be demolished sooner than expected? Does anyone know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    Why have those advertising covers been taken off already? I wonder if it is going to be demolished sooner than expected? Does anyone know?
    They were taken down because they were deeemed unsafe when we had the high winds a few weeks back

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    Was wandering around St Georges Hall exterior a week or so ago and noticed that there was a big circle missing from one of the lions backs...
    i wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    Was wandering around St Georges Hall exterior a week or so ago and noticed that there was a big circle missing from one of the lions backs...
    i wonder why?
    Mange?

    Perhaps it was damaged by being caged for the Biennial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Mange?

    Perhaps it was damaged by being caged for the Biennial?
    hehe
    i think the 'hole' looks quite old and eroded. But it is a perfect circle. It hasn't been done by accident

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    Lime street needs a strategy. I notice there is still no action on the tatty shops in front of the station. For god's sake get on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissInformed View Post
    Was wandering around St Georges Hall exterior a week or so ago and noticed that there was a big circle missing from one of the lions backs...
    i wonder why?
    Those lions need cleaning like St Georges Hall. They've been like that for years. Wellingtons column could do with cleaning too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    Those lions need cleaning like St Georges Hall. They've been like that for years. Wellingtons column could do with cleaning too.

    They could do with tearing down the old TGWU building. In fact the area adjacent to Lime Street, London Road lets it down badly.

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