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    What! Old Swan tech? Been there donkeys years hasn't it, my mate went there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    It's closed, due to be demolished. Martin
    Inside the entrance, they had kept the old sandstone door lintels,etc,from the previous school/college, complete with L'pool insignia! ( was it bombed in the war?) I just wonder if it will be so lucky this time?

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    We Where told it will become an Aldi store, oh yes just what we need, another store. The traffic will get worse

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    Kwik Save have now joined the likes of Coopers, Fine Fare, Lennons, Gateway, Brookes, Irwins, etc., as Supermarkets in the Sky.
    I took these photos because this building was once the Regent Cinema, which was only open from 1926 to 1938.
    The style of the Kwik Save name altered over the years, and the photos date from 1982, 1987, 1989 and 2007.

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    Anyone with an interest in old - old swan might want to scroll down to the bottom of these pages as I added another 100 pics to the site today.


    http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44922707&cr=7 Pre war old swan.


    http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44843738&cr=7 1950s to 80s b&w photos


    http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=30679502&cr=7 More swan tenny pics



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Anyone with an interest in old - old swan might want to scroll down to the bottom of these pages as I added another 100 pics to the site today.


    http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44922707&cr=7 Pre war old swan.


    http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44843738&cr=7 1950s to 80s b&w photos


    http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=30679502&cr=7 More swan tenny pics



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    Brilliant pics Ged, Thanks for bringing it all back to life

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    hi all
    can anyone remember an old furniture shop in london road liverpool, it belonged to member of my dads family, the miller family.
    if anyone can remember it could you let me know thanks joss

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    Those photographs were fantastic. Have just spent hours looking at them. I never get tired of looking at old Liverpool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Kwik Save have now joined the likes of Coopers, Fine Fare, Lennons, Gateway, Brookes, Irwins, etc., as Supermarkets in the Sky.
    I took these photos because this building was once the Regent Cinema, which was only open from 1926 to 1938.
    The style of the Kwik Save name altered over the years, and the photos date from 1982, 1987, 1989 and 2007.

    That's a great photo collage! Didn't KS take over Fine Fare? Somerfield used to be called Gateway,I think. I wonder if they changed their name to avoid confusion with the PC company?

    Dave.

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    A few Old Swan pics, If you scroll to the bottom you will see the College during demolition. Sad to see it go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Almost exactly the same things I would have said.
    I'd have added "One cinema from another" because Baden House is on the exact site of the (New) Regent.
    The (Old) Regent is still standing (Kwik Save).
    Great Pictures.
    Baden House is mostly built over the Regent Cinema,s Front Carpark. The front of the Cinema was about in line with the back yard wall of the houses on the East side of Baden Road. There was also a rear Carpark.

    The last Picture over the rooftops of the houses includes our old house No3 Leinster. My bedroom window at the back brought back memories of very cold winter nights with three of us under the overcoats in one bed. Lived there till I was 27 when I married in New Zealend. My mother was in that house for 62 years. Lots of memories for me looking at these shots. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    I worked in Crawfords ( United Biscuits ) to about 2002 then changed job to the Littlewoods Building in 2002 and what a building that was. I actually sat in the original Moores office, with the original fireplace and a mosaic glass dome in the ceiling ( never took no pics though ) and it would be a travesty if they pulled it down.
    The Art Deco Littlewoods Building is listed with plans to make it into flats.
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    This is from an old Tithe Map in the 1830s I think.
    To give you an idea of direction plot '2473' is roughly where St Oswald Church is now. Also clearly shown is the 'quarry' at what would become Hoults Corner



    This one is interesting because it shows the Old Swan Glass Works (plot 2477 and 2476). These Glass Works were bought by Pilkingtons and Chances in 1855. The huge round bit would have been the 'cone' where the furnace was located.

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    Great stuff.
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    Great maps and info, Fortinian
    Here are a couple of photos I took from around 1985 on Christmas Day, a pipe burst on Prescot Rd and the water reached past Dovecot.
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    From the top of Woodhall Rd


    From the top of Woodhall Rd


    and from the top of Fitzgerald Rd

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post


    This is from an old Tithe Map in the 1830s I think.
    To give you an idea of direction plot '2473' is roughly where St Oswald Church is now. Also clearly shown is the 'quarry' at what would become Hoults Corner



    This one is interesting because it shows the Old Swan Glass Works (plot 2477 and 2476). These Glass Works were bought by Pilkingtons and Chances in 1855. The huge round bit would have been the 'cone' where the furnace was located.
    Very interesting Fortinian! Is that Elm House on the second map, top centre?

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    Prescot Road in 1953 at its junction with Pemberton Road. The original parade of 'Swan Row' shops in evidence behind the bus. Irwins had been on that site since 1908.





    St Oswalds street from Hoults corner on Prescot Road c1906. Many locals including a young Mart from this thread pose for the camera. Amongst the businesses on the right are J.R. Dinsdale, Farmer & cowkeeper and Moorcroft's fruiterers. Further on is the hanging barrel shaped globe of the Royal Standard pub and beyond that are the three brass balls of Cookson's pawnbrokers.


    Both photographs and information from Paul Bolger's fantastic Edwardian A-Z book - part 2.
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    Ged, Great pics yet again, I've not seen these before.

    I will post a few of mine from around Old Swan, from Various sources, books etc. Thanks for these.
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    That's not me as a kid as I wasn't born until after 1907

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    Thanks Mart. One more from the book, the 3 set of which I cannot recommend highly enough. 1908 Ordance survey maps/A-Z form - also selected main thoroughfares from the Kellys directories showing businesses/residents and of course dozens of photos like these.

    This is looking east along Prescot Road towards Green Lane c1914. Greenberg's is at No.379, then a general contractors offering plumbing, gasfitting, painting, decorating ironmongery and glazing, but now known as major glass suppliers to the city.

    Beyond that is the New Premier Picturedrome which was one of the city's oldest purpose built picture houses and the first in the Old Swan area. Before 'talkies' films, it also staged variety acts and melodramas such as Ivanhoe, the black 13 and dynamited love. It opened in 1912 but closed in 1959 and was converted to a furniture store named Marsh's. When the frontage was changed, I remember this as a Blundell's catalogue shop and then, now set further back, it was the premier pub.

    The then Green Lane hotel can be seen endorsing Blezard's Ales - a Scotland Road brewery whose premises were on the same block as the Rotunda Theatre.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Samp View Post
    Very interesting Fortinian! Is that Elm House on the second map, top centre?
    Elm House is a very common name on these type of maps...as is the 'The Elms'. I've been stuying this map quite a bit actuallly.


    I do know that this particuar 'Elms' was the home of a chap called Henry Wilson at one point. It gives its name to 'Elm House Road' in Old Swan, which ran behind the property that I think actually ran alongside Edge Lane.

    The 'Glass House Pub' at the top of Cunningham Road and Mill Lane. Is probably named after the Glassworks which I now think was located at the opposite side of Edge Lane.

    Most interesting of all is at the other end of the image however. If you look at the building called 'May Place' and overlay it to a modern map the footprint of the building fits the house now called 'Craven Lodge Funeral Home'. This could be the same building or just another building built on he same footprint.

    Even more interesting is just to the right of 'May Place' is a small horseshoe shaped building which I think is still standing... i.e. the builders yard next to All Saints Church Stoneycroft, at the other end of Cunningham Road. If that is the case then the patch of grass that is now opposite the building yard used to be a small pond.

    Brilliant.

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    They are some nice pics of Old Swan.

    Old Swan now I can't stand to go to.
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    Great pics Ged, Ive never seen them
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    It gives its name to 'Elm House Road' in Old Swan, which ran behind the property that I think actually ran alongside Edge Lane.
    Yes, the house was in Edge Lane and was still there until around 1996, when it was demolished.

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    Nice one Ayjaykay... thanks for the info. You wouldn't happen to have a picture (or know someone who has a picture) of this house would you?

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    There is a book on Old Swan with a picture of Elm House.

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    Found this "Elm House" ( Wavertree ? )

    http://www.mersey-gateway.org/pastli.../pages/r45.htm

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    [QUOTE=Ged;163625]Thanks Mart. One more from the book, the 3 set of which I cannot recommend highly enough. 1908 Ordance survey maps/A-Z form - also selected main thoroughfares from the Kellys directories showing businesses/residents and of course dozens of photos like these.

    This is looking east along Prescot Road towards Green Lane c1914. Greenberg's is at No.379, then a general contractors offering plumbing, gasfitting, painting, decorating ironmongery and glazing, but now known as major glass suppliers to the city.


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    Greenbergs have actually just gone bust due to the recession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    Found this "Elm House" ( Wavertree ? )

    http://www.mersey-gateway.org/pastli.../pages/r45.htm

    Martin
    Thanks for that, unfortunately I think the Elm House in that photo was near to Lance Lane in Wavetree rather than Old Swan! Like I said, 'The Elms' and 'Elm House' were very common names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortinian View Post
    Nice one Ayjaykay... thanks for the info. You wouldn't happen to have a picture (or know someone who has a picture) of this house would you?
    I don't have an old photo unfortunately. The house was where the newish flats and houses are on the photo below. Elms House Road runs behind it.


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