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    Default old seaman's mission panels?

    am I correct in thinking these where originally in the old seaman's place in town?



    or where they somewhere else. I've definitely seen them before.


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    I think you're right, I remember seeing that design in the middle one on a website and think it might even be incorporated in the Henry Pooley gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quincyg View Post
    am I correct in thinking these were originally in the old seaman's place in town?
    or were they somewhere else. I've definitely seen them before.
    Why not tell us where you took the photo?
    Do you mean the Mersey Mission to Seamen, because they're not from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Why not tell us where you took the photo?
    Do you mean the Mersey Mission to Seamen, because they're not from there.
    Sorry.
    I've been trying to upload pics to here and Flickr all evening and had to do dinner and nipped out to Crosby. Can't remember everything.
    They're in The Malmaison now, but I've definitely seen them somewhere else. May have been in the Museum of Liverpool Life
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    I thought they looked like the mermaid ones from Sailors Home (or in the style of).
    There are/were examples in the museum. I haven't checked for a while, though. Or there are examples in Portmeirion, Wales.

    Edit: Just done a brief search of Flickr for Portmeirion...have a look at the bottom right of this pic:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/97704754@N00/2508618811/
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    Yes, Marky, they're definitely from the Sailor's Home.
    I have a Merseyside County Museums photograph showing them (Negative No. N72-238).
    I don't think I'm too happy that they're in a hotel with (presumably) no knowledge of where they're from.
    Have Merseyside County Museums (or whatever they're now called) been selling their collection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    I thought they looked like the mermaid ones from Sailors Home (or in the style of).
    There are/were examples in the museum. I haven't checked for a while, though. Or there are examples in Portmeirion, Wales.

    Edit: Just done a brief search of Flickr for Portmeirion...have a look at the bottom right of this pic:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/97704754@N00/2508618811/
    that's the place I meant, used to be in town by the police HQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Yes, Marky, they're definitely from the Sailor's Home.
    I don't think I'm too happy that they're in a hotel with (presumably) no knowledge of where they're from.
    Have Merseyside County Museums (or whatever they're now called) been selling their collection?
    they've got 6 of them all together. 3 on either side on the main entrance with the rather ott purple seating. at least they are still in the city I suppose.

    this is on their website, but doesn't mention the panels
    Mal Liverpool is completely unique – the epitome of modern chic. It follows a New York gothic-inspired theme, is built on an immense scale and has a whole extra dimension through being situated right by the Mersey.

    You can feel the sense of style as you enter the lobby. An industrial metal staircase leads to our alluring champagne bar, while our minimalist décor includes exposed brickwork and aircon ducts. Trust us, you won’t have stayed anywhere like this before.


    it's certainly the most bizarre foyer I've ever been in. I found it a bit dark and rather overbearing.
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    I haven't found a large pic yet, but this one shows an example (in Wales) :
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/crainbow/1484657139/
    The examples I've seen are flat. The ones at the top of the thread, look to have a curve (unless it's just my eyes)

    Another nice one:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ricksphotos101/1462888749/
    I've seen 5 or 6 seperate so far. I wish I had the time to go through all Flickrs Portmeirion pics, to find others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quincyg View Post
    they've got 6 of them all together. 3 on either side on the main entrance with the rather ott purple seating. at least they are still in the city I suppose.

    this is on their website, but doesn't mention the panels
    Mal Liverpool is completely unique – the epitome of modern chic. It follows a New York gothic-inspired theme, is built on an immense scale and has a whole extra dimension through being situated right by the Mersey.

    You can feel the sense of style as you enter the lobby. An industrial metal staircase leads to our alluring champagne bar, while our minimalist décor includes exposed brickwork and aircon ducts. Trust us, you won’t have stayed anywhere like this before.


    it's certainly the most bizarre foyer I've ever been in. I found it a bit dark and rather overbearing.

    If they don't know what they are, how can we be reassured that they won't end up in a skip some day?
    I don't think I'll ever have a reason to go into the Malmaison to see them.

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    found this one on Flickr which is a full view of the Portmeirion one

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    I haven't found a large pic yet, but this one shows an example (in Wales) :
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/crainbow/1484657139/
    The examples I've seen are flat. The ones at the top of the thread, look to have a curve (unless it's just my eyes)
    they are curved and if you look at the one in the middle it's like the edge of it is missing. I didn't notice them on the way in as I was too busy looking for the lambanana
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    Yes, there were at least 100 of these panels in the Sailors' Home.
    There's another photo of the interior (Negative No. N72-233).
    The photos are probably available from the Maritime Museum.

    BTW, the new John Lewis covers the site of the Sailors' Home.

    Which was the museum in the Albert Dock (not the Maritime)?
    They had a complete room (or cabin?) from the Sailors' Home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Yes, there were at least 100 of these panels in the Sailors' Home.
    There's another photo of the interior (Negative No. N72-233).
    The photos are probably available from the Maritime Museum.

    BTW, the new John Lewis covers the site of the Sailors' Home.
    I remember the site has a mish mash of scaffolding with advertising hoardings on for a while. I'm having a quick trawl round seeing if I can find a pic of the panels in situ


    there's this pic from bwpics.co.uk site it shows where the panels where but it's not very clear
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    The Sailors Home/Pooley Gates crop up in past threads. Post 28 of this one, has the mock-up that was in the Museum and shows some of the mermaid panels:
    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/sho...=pooley&page=2

    Here's the Listing details (1987 Grade II) for the Pooley Gates:
    http://www.laws.sandwell.gov.uk/ccm/...d=apk4MNBOpxcd

    Site of Sailors Home pics: copy and paste 'Liverpool sailors home' into Flickr:
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    Default The story so far...

    The panels at Malmaison were removed from the Liverpool Sailors' Home just prior to its demolition in 1974. I am told that these six panels were given to one of the volunteers who helped remove the ironwork (Volunteers were from Liverpool Museums and Liverpool University).
    It is a bit disappointing that there is no explanatory panel to explication their presence but this can easily be resolved.
    The ironwork in Portmeirion, along with the famous gates were removed in the early 1950s as part of post-war repair-work to the old building (100 years old at the time).
    The curved panels come from the corners of the flat-iron-shaped building (each corner had a different angle).
    I've filmed and photographed panels from the Home in various places, the furthest known example being in Portsmouth.
    You can also find them in Portmeirion, Caernarfon, Audlum (Staffordshire), London as well as various places in Liverpool (For security reasons I won't list these.).
    A large stash of the railings were stolen and some examples were sold in a London auction in 1979. Apart from the the example in Portsmouth - the provenance of all the other examples is known and can be traced back to the removal in 1950 or 1974.
    Liverpool Museums still hold a large collection of artefacts from the Sailors' Home including two complete cabins, one of which was on display in the old Museum of Liverpool Life. There are no plans to put any of the Sailors' Home relics into the new Museum of Liverpool, but some may be included in future, temporary exhibits.
    The following sites may be of interest: http://www.chesterwalls.info/gallery/sailorshome.html as it includes an image of the demolition showing that the railigs have been removed.
    If you have any images or artefacts from the Liverpool Sailors Home please contact me.
    Any other questions, please drop me a line.
    Steve Mckay
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    I can confirm that the panels in Malmason were the ones from Staffordshire which I photographed in the 1990s.
    They were removed from the Home just prior to its demolition in 1974 and were given away as they were difficult to use, odd corner panels.
    They were used to create a very attractive shop counter.
    The owner sold them by auction to an interior designer when he retired in 2006.
    The designer installed them at Malmason.
    My investigation has lead me to locate another two panels in Portsmouth.

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    Default There is more Good News for fans of the old Liverpool Sailors' Home

    As part of the redevelopment of the site of the St Thomas's Church on Paradise Street by Grosvenor, the site has now been laid out as a memorial garden to all those who are buried there including Joseph Williamson.

    The centre piece of the garden is a carved stone replica of the Liver Bird which once adorned the Sailors Home on Paradise Street and which was temporarily stored at the Williamson Tunnels Heritage Centre during the construction of Liverpool One.


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