George went to my school, tho. a few years my junior. A bass player with the Bumblies and The Cryin' Shames. (The 'Bumblies' name had to be dropped because of copywrite problems) He did pretty good as a bass player, lives in Snowdonia and drives a couple of Caddy's (not at the same time) Still tours with his wife as The Cryin' Shames, as the name was his. Another Scouse from a working class background that did good in the Mersey Sound Boom.