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    My Irish Pride

    I have placed this here to remember our Irish ancestors, and their contribution to this city. It is here only to respect them, and the heritage we have in this city, not to have a go at any other groups. I placed it here as nothing much is on this forum to the Irish. Now have a Guinness and enjoy


    Like most, my Irish ancestors had to fight terrible poverty and appalling housing conditions. My Great Great Grandparents Michael and Margaret Cain, both died within hours of each other of bronchitis, on Christmas eve 1874. Having no money they where buried in paupers graves at Ford cemetery, but at least the records show they where buried together in the same grave. A lot of my Irish ancestors would follow the same path of pauper burial. Today all I have to remember them by, is a field in Ford cemetery. Once a year I place flowers in the center of the field, before moving them to the No Name memorial. A small token of remembrance for my kin.

    As well as hardship, they had to face the wrath of people who thought them Scum, adding insult to their despair. Yet by sticking together they found strength, a bond that brought them hope and helped them to carry on. They formed their own communities, involved other immigrant groups, and lived together side by side. They worked the factories and docks or peddled their goods, sang songs of the homeland, and danced to fine music. Against all odds they rose and spread into the city, they survived, because of their strength I am here today, proud to have their blood running through my veins, their knowledge in my thoughts, their love in my heart.

    To the present day my family still travels to and fro from Liverpool to Ireland, visiting relatives. Flying is far more easy than our ancestors sea voyage. The first time I set foot in Ireland I felt that I belong, It is my history, and my ancestors homeland. In June of this year another influx of Irish will arrive, this time for my wedding, and the pubs will take a belting. Happy days for happy people.


    Mersey reporter http://www.merseyreporter.com/histor...igration.shtml


    BBC legacies http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/immig_...rticle_1.shtml

    Liverpool Remembers http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...11/ai_30151745

    Liverpool and the great hunger http://www.irishholocaust.org/liverpoolandthegreat

    BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2852029.stm

    St Michaels Irish Centre http://www.stmichaelsirishcentre.org/

    The great hunger potato famine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Potato_Famine

    ICLiverpool plans to resurrect the Irish Centre http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...name_page.html



    The Catholic cathedral is nicknamed Paddy's Wigwam.

    We have so many Irish pubs.

    We have an Irish festival.


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    The St Patrick's day march along Scottie and Vauxhall road is back, the flags where flying high and looking great.

    many Irish names roads, lots in Old Swan.

    Plaques to the famine victims located around the city.

    Plenty ive missed, but aint it great to see the heritage remembered.

    Oh yeah- and cheap flights to Ireland

    I also have Swedish, Welsh and English in my ancestry. Most of it is Irish, Hence my pride




    Famine Statues Dublin


    The Statues are located at Custom house Quay



    The Quay was the walkway the victims once walked along to the coffin ships.



    Statue Info http://earthanduniverse.blogspot.com...resent_27.html
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    Great Hunger Memorial Liverpool

    My Irish Pride

    I have placed this here to remember our Irish ancestors, and their contribution to this city. It is here only to respect them, and the heritage we have in this city, not to have a go at any other groups. I placed it here as nothing much is on this forum to the Irish. Now have a Guinness and enjoy


    Like most, my Irish ancestors had to fight terrible poverty and appalling housing conditions. My Great Great Grandparents Michael and Margaret Cain, both died within hours of each other of bronchitis, on Christmas eve 1874. Having no money they where buried in paupers graves at Ford cemetery, but at least the records show they where buried together in the same grave. A lot of my Irish ancestors would follow the same path of pauper burial. Today all I have to remember them by, is a field in Ford cemetery. Once a year I place flowers in the center of the field, before moving them to the No Name memorial. A small token of remembrance for my kin.

    As well as hardship, they had to face the wrath of people who thought them Scum, adding insult to their despair. Yet by sticking together they found strength, a bond that brought them hope and helped them to carry on. They formed their own communities, involved other immigrant groups, and lived together side by side. They worked the factories and docks or peddled their goods, sang songs of the homeland, and danced to fine music. Against all odds they rose and spread into the city, they survived, because of their strength I am here today, proud to have their blood running through my veins, their knowledge in my thoughts, their love in my heart.

    To the present day my family still travels to and fro from Liverpool to Ireland, visiting relatives. Flying is far more easy than our ancestors sea voyage. The first time I set foot in Ireland I felt that I belong, It is my history, and my ancestors homeland. In June of this year another influx of Irish will arrive, this time for my wedding, and the pubs will take a belting. Happy days for happy people.








    Nice to hear about your Irish family Gnomie. I too have lots of Irish blood and am very proud of the fact they survived even though the odds where against them. I hope that is where I get my spirit from. Love the photos not seen those statues before.
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    Thanks Sweetcheeks

    Great to hear of your Irish ancestors

    Sadly this thread has already gone down hill. I have always had respect for other groups/cultures, seems others dont.

    Is it really worth staying here anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomie View Post
    Thanks Sweetcheeks

    Great to hear of your Irish ancestors

    Sadly this thread has already gone down hill. I have always had respect for other groups/cultures, seems others dont.

    Is it really worth staying here anymore



    Yes it most certainly is YOU would be missed, you brighten our day with your chat. There will always be people that only see the negative in everything and we will never change that so rise above it and keep smiling
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    Gnomie - Great to hear about your Irish ancestory and what they went through to make Liverpool what it is today and that your family and friends also still celebrate and are still proud of their ancestory.

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    I have mainly Welsh and English blood in me, but I find this thread most interesting. Good work, Gnomie.

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    ditto.

    I don't have Irish in my family but I found Gnomie's post very interesting to read. Those statues are very interesting, I havn't seen them before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    ditto.

    I don't have Irish in my family but I found Gnomie's post very interesting to read. Those statues are very interesting, I havn't seen them before.
    I have too and havn't seen those before. Cheers Toe!
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    those statues in Dublin are haunting. I only had a small memory card at the time so didn't take as many photos as I'd have liked.

    taken Feb 2005
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    Great thread Tony. With a surname like mine, I always knew there was Irish in me somewhere down the line, thanks for finding it for me, you're a star.
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    Bloomin Eck great replies ( apart from one ) im glad i put this here now

    Nice pic of the statues quincyg they are very haunting, some close up pics of them here http://www.flickr.com/photos/pamilne...7594465492346/

    and here http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimblis...7600031130957/

    It is amazing to watch peoples reactions to the statues, they turn a rowdy bunch into sombre souls. I always try to go and see them when im in Dublin, I think it would be nice if Liverpool had a set of statues arriving in our city.



    Kev with a surname like yours I think you may find an Irish connection if you look through records, I have seen you name appear a lot on church records from Scottie/vauxhall road areas.

    Thanks again Im glad you like it, My Irish connection is really important to me.

    Tony

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    Apart from the 2 Kevin Keegans we all know - there was a father and son redheads with that name in Gerard Gardens in my time there. Bloody commoners
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    Ged sent me some cracking photos of the Paddy's day parade

    Post them Ged!!!! Post them!!!!

    It made me laugh and think about my Nanna, She used to send us to Irish dancing lessons, saying "its in your blood". It may have been in me blood but it was'nt in me bloomin feet, I was rubbish, but it was great fun.

    She would tell us stories of Ireland, Of the great hunger, the proud people and all the legends of the Isle( im sure she made most of it up) not bad for a girl born in Bootle she told us the stories where passed down from our Kin, "never forget your roots are in Ireland" she would say. A real star my Nanna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quincyg View Post
    those statues in Dublin are haunting. I only had a small memory card at the time so didn't take as many photos as I'd have liked.

    taken Feb 2005
    no disrespect whatsoever but these are the tallest irish people i've ever met, incl family, most of my irish mates are midgets or midgets slightly taller brothers, great pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoney View Post
    no disrespect whatsoever but these are the tallest irish people i've ever met, incl family, most of my irish mates are midgets or midgets slightly taller brothers, great pics
    Artististic license to accentuate the thinness I'd guess.

    Though I'm of Irish ancestry and 6' 5" with three brothers of similar height, so perhaps it's only leprechauns you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Artististic license to accentuate the thinness I'd guess.

    Though I'm of Irish ancestry and 6' 5" with three brothers of similar height, so perhaps it's only leprechauns you know?
    The Irish are not a tall race at all. There are exceptions though.

    Those statues in Dublin are superb. When Liverpool Waters is done, a part near Clarence Dock (the Irish Dock), should have similar statues. The whole dock should excavated and used as a memorial/Irish themed part of the city. The city has to face up to its role in that man made disaster.
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    Great pics Ged

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    Quote "I think it would be nice if Liverpool had a set of statues arriving in our city."
    Gnomie, this is a great idea.

    I too have Irish ancestors ( Mother's maiden name was Shannon ) and fondly remember as children, all family and friends coming around after the pubs closed, a few wooden crates of brown ale for the adults and we ( the kids ) joining in the singing of many an irish tune.

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    I have been looking around for the last few weeks in search of my grandad's grave. He died at 20 walnut st. Liverpool 7 on the 9th jan 1944. We have his death cert. John O'Brien he was born on the 24th april 1866 at Knockalban, Co. clare, Ireland. On the 22nd April 1888 he married Bridget Brosnihan in Limerick. He left Limerick around 1914 and ended up in liverpool.

    I am one of 17 children - 14 of us still alive. the youngest is nearing 50. my parents had 59 grandchildren. I would love to find my grandad's grave - as would many of my family. We never knew our grandad.
    I would like to re-member him.
    I hope to hear from Liverpool records office in the next few days. I rang the Anfield cemetry number and a very kind gentleman promised to ring me back.
    So just in case you know anything or can help me in any way my email is bobfromcork@gmail.com.
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    Hi and welcome to Yoliverpool.

    good luck in your search.

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    Thanks Lindylou

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    Hi Bob

    I have put your message on the Merseyside Genealogy Forum, they may be able to help you, I really hope so mate.

    There link is http://genchatfriends.proboards39.com/

    I will post any replies here

    Kev this aint no spam

    good luck, and welcome to the forum

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    Never noticed this thread before, great idea Gnomie. My Mums side of the family is all irish, my dad's being a mixture of english and scotish.

    Great idea too to have similar statues on the liverpool side of the irish sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broliv View Post
    Never noticed this thread before, great idea Gnomie. My Mums side of the family is all irish, my dad's being a mixture of english and scotish.

    Great idea too to have similar statues on the liverpool side of the irish sea.
    Glad you like it.

    threads for Welsh, Scottish, Scandanavian, English are in the cultures and communities section.

    Yep the statues here would be great, but would they pay for them? i doubt it

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    They should. Should commission the same guy that made the ones in Dublin, or even talk to Dublin council about letting us copy the desgn or have somthin similar. Same with Belfast, increase links n'all

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    Brill pictures all

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