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    Exclamation King Edward Tower

    IT IS a derelict, burnt-out building that has become a blot on the recentlyregenerated urban city centre landscape.

    But the King Edward pub, bought five years ago for just 150,000, is now rumoured to be worth a staggering 9m.

    Despite its less than salubrious appearance, the building's value has shot up thanks to its prime position sitting high above the River Mersey, making it ripe for redevelopment.

    Sources told the Daily Post that one development company had offered the owner 9m for the site, but was turned down.

    The owners, Richmont Properties, are still considering whether to sell the land, develop it themselves, or join up with another firm for the venture.

    To make it viable for buyers splashing out such a sum, they would need to build a sky-scraper style tower similar to its neighbour, the multi-million pound Beetham Tower.

    A spokesman for regeneration organisation Liverpool Vision said: "It is designated as one of the clusters for tall buildings."

    But many are less than convinced that a firm would actually part with such a hefty sum, particularly as the site does not have planning permission for any development. James Kersh, from estate agents Sutton Kersh, said: "It's a prime location because there are so few land sites in the city.

    "But it is only worth that much subject to planning. It could be they have been made an offer of 9m subject to planning but with a clause that if it is not successful the developers would pay much less."

    Stuart Keppie, from property firm Keppie Massie, said: "It is a postage stamp site. A 40-storey site might give you a return, but I would not advise any of my clients to buy it unless there was planning permission attached.

    "There are people who are desperate to get into the city centre but the price of that site is totally dependent on the planning permission.

    "It was bought a few years ago by mystery owners and it seems to have been in limbo ever since."

    If the owners seal a 9m deal, they would emulate the success of their neighbours Beetham.

    The Liverpool-based developer paid the city council 163,000 for land on Brook Street in January, 2002, because it said it wanted the site to make environmental improvements for its nearby 28-storey Beetham Tower and possibly build a small office block.

    But once Liverpool's cabinet approved the deal, the firm subsequently submitted a planning application to build the 40-storey block West Tower, which is estimated to make them 30m.

    A spokesman for Richmont Properties said: "Design negotiations are at a very early stage with the city council.

    "If someone is happy to pay that amount, we would advise them to speak to our agents, Knight Frank."

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    It would be really nice to see something done with it.

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    Has anyone got a pic?
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    It'll be nice to see something done with this!


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    I think they found a dead body in there a year or two ago as well!


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    He turned down 9m!

    Did they find out what happened to the dead body?
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    Default King Edward Pub Sold.....

    For 6 Million !

    It has been brought by a Wirral businessman but his plans are remaining a secret for the time being. Property experts in the city think that the site could and would be ideal for a high-rise residential development. If this were to happen, those living in Beethams West Tower could have thier river views blocked out.

    Here is the article...

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    Sold at last!! Can't complain for 6 million eh? Now on with the demolision of the burnt out pub.
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    Princes Dock owner Peel Holdings is believed to have paid around 20m for the adjacent King Edward industrial estate, which it has bought from a property investment firm called London & Cambridge. Peel, which recently acquired the owner of Princes Dock, Mersey Docks and Harbour Company, wants to use the site to link Princes Dock with the main dock road and with the city's central business district.
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    This is a fantastic site for a very tall tower so let's hope they aren't forced to downsize it,it's in a tall building zone so I don't see a problem but you never know in this city,still this is excellent news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev
    Sold at last!! Can't complain for 6 million eh? Now on with the demolision of the burnt out pub.
    Why demolish it? We are loosing so many Dockside pubs at the moment, One day we will only be left with the Baltic Fleet if we are not too careful. I would like to see the facarde incorporated into the new building. Archtechtually, it isn't all that bad.

    Give it a chance, please........

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    Pre-planning of the King Edward Tower mentions the following details:

    Height: 146M
    Floors: 48
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    478ft will be bigger than Beetham west tower won't it?

    Manchester has one approved for over 600! Otherwise they have no taller buildings than us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    478ft will be bigger than Beetham west tower won't it?

    Manchester has one approved for over 600! Otherwise they have no taller buildings than us!
    8 floors taller, though I'm sure the ground level of the Tower will be lower than the Beetham West, maybe someone can confirm this.
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    The Edward one will be taller.

    http://www.skyscrapernews.com/bdbsea...city=Liverpool

    Height is only what matters to Max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    The Edward one will be taller.

    http://www.skyscrapernews.com/bdbsea...city=Liverpool

    Height is only what matters to Max.
    Well Max, when we stood side by side on the forum meetup, I felt like a little Beetham next to a Huge King Edward
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    I bet the rest did too.

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    Next time we have another forum meet up, I want a pic of us all standing next to each other.

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    Question King Edward Tower

    Does anyone know how this is getting on. I have looked at the website but there isn't much info on the project. I hope it is more than a rumour! It seems like a very high quality project and would be a great addition to our waterfront.

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    ...true. That's the one that really looks exciting.

    Was also thinking the same "what happened to that" thoughts about the proposedbusiness district.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Teardrop Explodes View Post
    ...true. That's the one that really looks exciting.

    Was also thinking the same "what happened to that" thoughts about the proposedbusiness district.
    I think the business district is still going ahead. The king edward tower looks really exciting but it's hard to get any info from the developers. I have tried e-mailing them but the address doesn't exist. There is an image of it on the website under 'spring review' in the downloads page.

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    Can we have a link please

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    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK1 View Post
    That Piccadilly Village pic looks great doesn't it? I'd love to see those sort of models being applied to private and social housing within our city. Try to remove those lifeless low-density estates we have in and around the city centre and start building imaginative apartment districts like that one..

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    The King Edward pub site near to Liverpool's waterfront looks likely to remain derelict for months to come, after talks between its owner and city planners hit deadlock......continues....

    ......Harvey Developments submitted a planning application for a twin tower residential development just before Christmas but a source told the Daily Post the company was being frustrated in its attempts to get clear guidance from the council about exactly what type of design and usage it would be happy with.
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    You can already sense the planners are fuming over this,this new tower has the potential massive and they don't like it.Hopefully Liverpool Vision will sort this out and give us something at least the size of West tower.

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    With it only having a small footprint,this tower in its present state would probably be Liverpool's tallest building,I hope they get this one built.

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    I do hope this gets the go-ahead soon.
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    King eddie = 512 apartments
    Beetham west = 130 apartments

    Depending on how much bigger the footprint is, thats a massive difference. Even when split into 2 towers of 256 apartments they work out to be around 50 stories, it can't be twin 50 storie towers! but I can't see how they can build 512 apartments on a small site without building very tall.

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