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    Default ventilation tower/shaft

    did a search for ventilation but no joy.

    this is White St/Greville St near Park Lane L1


    I was on the way to photograph somewhere else when I saw it. there was someone else taking pics of it. Wonder if it's someone from here?


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    and this one is in Wavertree Park by the wall of the botanical gardens
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    I have seen a few of these around recently too.

    One in Blackburne Place, off Hope St.



    and this one in Wavertree ( i think!)


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    there were quite a few around Wavertree/Edge Hill.

    A lot are only showing up now that buildings around them have been demolished.
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    They're shown on the OS maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    They're shown on the OS maps.
    I've got a couple of early 20th century localised OS maps. must have a proper look.

    I've looked in the tunnel areas but can't make them out. how are they marked Phil? by a letter , number or tiny circle?
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    There used to be a 'Star Wars' mural painted on the Grenville Street vent. I haven't seen it since apartments were built, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quincyg View Post
    I've got a couple of early 20th century localised OS maps. must have a proper look.

    I've looked in the tunnel areas but can't make them out. how are they marked Phil? by a letter , number or tiny circle?
    On the Wapping tunnel, they're marked by squares (because they're square?).
    They're at: White St/Grenville St; Gt George St/Up Duke St; Blackburne Place; Chatham St/Myrtle St (not sure about this one. It could be a small building); and Crown St., which is marked as 'Air Shaft'.

    Victoria/Waterloo Tunnel, they're marked by circles (because they're circular?).
    Gladstone St/Vauxhall Rd; (Cutting at Hodson/Byrom St); Wilde St./Norton St., (actually just on the other side of the tunnel!); Elizabeth St., near Crown St.; Paddington/Minshull St.; Elm Grove/Paddington; and Woodside St., near Wavertree Rd.
    I'd never realised before that one tunnel had square vents and t'other circular.
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    There are a few circular ones for Dingle Tunnel.
    The '911' mural on Great George Street, is painted on a vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    There are a few circular ones for Dingle Tunnel.
    The '911' mural on Great George Street, is painted on a vent.
    I looked at that CLC/Garston/Hunts Cross line and it's not so obvious just what is what.
    The first vent is behind Berry St./Wood St.
    The two vents in Great George Street are not obvious, as on the map they could be buildings and are by the side of the line, not over it.
    There are a lot of cuttings before the Dingle Tunnel (not to be confused with the Tunnel to Dingle Station on the Overhead).
    There's a circular vent on Cockburn Street and another near Dingle Road/Matthew Arnold School.
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    Default Mersey Tunnel vents.



    Last edited by PhilipG; 03-09-2008 at 10:20 AM.

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    Default Great George Street vent.

    The line is exactly under the roadway down Great Street Street.

    Last edited by PhilipG; 03-09-2008 at 10:43 AM.

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    Default Berry Street. June 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Philip, what is this picture all about?
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    The Wapping Waterloo Tunnels have too many vent shafts for an electric railway. Many can be removed. They were built for steam trains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Philip, what is this picture all about?
    It's in this thread because the brick built tower is a railway vent.

    As you can see, half of this 18th century building was demolished last summer.
    It goes without saying it wasn't Listed.

    Luckily, however, it's getting rebuilt, in the original style it looks like.

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    I did hear somewhere that the '911' building was a vent. I think it was in the Echo. Anyway, there is a similar one in Upper Mann Street and I've definitely heard trains pass at this point. Click on satellite, for a better view.
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...,0.007296&z=17

    Re: Grenville Street: I checked today and the Star Wars mural is still there, but I don't know if it can be accessed. It's the only side not shown on the pics of that vent, earlier in this thread. One would need a wide-angle lens to capture it properly.

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    Crown Street in the park




    now this one is on the 1905 OS map as an 'air shaft'
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    Yes, the '9/11' is definitely a railway vent, as is the other one, on the next corner in Great George Street.
    They're shown on the 1906 OS map as walls without a roof, which is what they are.
    In fact, as well as the rebuilt Wapping vent, they're the only Victorian structures to survive in Great George Street, apart from the Blackie.
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    Not many people know this but the small steel vents were once for the sewer systems and there are still quite a few dotted around. One on Edge Lane by Wavertree Park and one by Broadgreen Hospital springs to mind, the latter was in the Echo as it was going to be taken down to be refurbished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightowl View Post
    Not many people know this but the small steel vents were once for the sewer systems and there are still quite a few dotted around. One on Edge Lane by Wavertree Park and one by Broadgreen Hospital springs to mind, the latter was in the Echo as it was going to be taken down to be refurbished.
    how small? I've seen a few large ones which I assume to be sewer vents as there are no tunnels marked up the map near them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    On the Wapping tunnel, they're marked by squares (because they're square?).
    They're at: White St/Grenville St; Gt George St/Up Duke St; Blackburne Place; Chatham St/Myrtle St (not sure about this one. It could be a small building); and Crown St., which is marked as 'Air Shaft'.

    Victoria/Waterloo Tunnel, they're marked by circles (because they're circular?).
    Gladstone St/Vauxhall Rd; (Cutting at Hodson/Byrom St); Wilde St./Norton St., (actually just on the other side of the tunnel!); Elizabeth St., near Crown St.; Paddington/Minshull St.; Elm Grove/Paddington; and Woodside St., near Wavertree Rd.
    I'd never realised before that one tunnel had square vents and t'other circular.
    I'd assumed it was when they were built that determined if they were square or circular, so that's interesting. would they have been for different railway companies?

    as for the Myrtle/Chatham one, there's nothing obvious on the aerial map. lots of trees about so that could be covering it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightowl View Post
    Not many people know this but the small steel vents were once for the sewer systems and there are still quite a few dotted around. One on Edge Lane by Wavertree Park and one by Broadgreen Hospital springs to mind, the latter was in the Echo as it was going to be taken down to be refurbished.
    They are mainly to allow air "into the system, so as not to create a suction that restricts flow. Have a full bottle or water and turn it upside down to see what I mean. Have a pan full of water and turn that upside down.
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    There are quite a few of those sewer vent pipes along the Dock Rd,and a couple in Botanic Park.

    Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skgogosfan View Post
    There are quite a few of those sewer vent pipes along the Dock Rd,and a couple in Botanic Park.

    Dave.
    took this one on Wapping yesterday
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    I think this is one at the rear of the 'Blackie'. There was an old mural on the side to right, but I couldn't get to it because of apartments being built. This was re-painted this week and a new mural installed titled 'Liverpool'. I think it depicts imigration into Liverpool, from what I can tell. A vent at the other end of Gt. George Street has been demolished.


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    here's the new mural and v nice it is too


    and the one part way down Gt George St both taken on Saturday
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    Quote Originally Posted by quincyg View Post
    took this one on Wapping yesterday
    Good shot! The main sewer runs along the Dock Road to Liverpool's third cathedral,aka Sandon Dock sewage works.

    Dave.

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